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    Is the Shadowlands natural or was it made? As the Emerald Dream was made by Freya but I don't recall the Chronicle mentioning that the Shadowlands was made by anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainforest View Post
    Where's your source?
    Says so right on the tin: Yogg-Saron is the God of Death. http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20079876 https://wow.gamepedia.com/Yogg-Saron_(tactics)#Quotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Says so right on the tin: Yogg-Saron is the God of Death. http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20079876
    So void lords are technically lords of death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainforest View Post
    So void lords are technically lords of death?
    No. They're lords of void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyalo View Post
    I believe Bolvar is being setup/positioned to be an expansion boss at some point.

    Unless you were referring to 'Arthas' intentionally rather than the 'Lich King' (who changes).
    I was talking specifically about Arthas since that was who the OP was talking about in the post I quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    he's no god though. he's just an inter-dimensional tick flung out of the void by his masters. he may have had a fascination with death magic, but that doesn't make him a god anymore than it makes ner'zhul a god.

    there's no true god of death.

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    Odyn is a fair guess, with Helya as his substitute.

    All the Titan keepers are based on Norse mythology.. And in Norse mythology, Odin was the god of Battle and Death.
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    The realms of the afterlife in the Warcraft universe always seemed to me to be somewhat automated - or at least designed to do their thing without supervision. There are beings who can interfere with those processes, such as Odyn, Helya, greater demons, and higher powers like the naaru or Elune. But they don't strike me as ruling over death or serving as lords of the Heavens or Hells. Without interference a given soul seems to be drawn either towards the Light or the Void on death, depending on their weight of the corruption - a greater being can halt or possibly reverse this course, unfortunately in either direction as in the example of the Lich King and the Scourge.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyalo View Post
    Have you done the DK Artifact? Bolvar is going cray cray.

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    Paragon was also one of the few/only guilds iirc using alts to learn the fight so they didn't waste attempts.
    Yes, which is why they were the best guild to ever exist. They went that extra mile and dominated the scene for like 6 yeara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qualia View Post
    Amount of attempt taken is widely considered the best measure of a boss' difficulty in WoW, though. LK didn't take Paragon 4 weeks to kill because it was a difficult encounter, but because of the limited amount of attempt. That isn't part of the encounter's mechanics, so you can't really argue that LK is more difficult. It is relatively easy (compared to, for example, Archimonde), just that Blizzard didn't allow guilds to use all of their strength / efforts on it. Otherwise, if we are judging an encounter's difficulty by how long it took to kill the boss, we may as well say that Vanilla MC bosses or Onyxia - all were very easy compared to bosses nowadays - were some of the hardest encounters in WoW since they all took from a week to 2 (Onyxia) - 3 months (Rag) to be killed. Yet, you'd have a hard time finding anyone who claims so.

    Just imagine it - if Blizzard limited us to less than 40 attempts per week on Archimonde (LK was first killed when the maximum amount of attempt was 35), it'd have taken around 6-10 weeks for Method to get him down (472 would have been ~12 weeks, but the gear gained during them would have helped).
    All very good points, but you're also not including the extra attempts made on alts. That closes the gap significantly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncroniam View Post
    At some point they will definately bring Arthas back, this can't be avoided they even brought Illidan and since there is this confirmed dark below/death realm that is not yet in the game it will most likely tie up to this
    They had to bring him back. Can't just leave questions like "Wtf was Illidan doing on Outlands" or "If he's part demon, does that mean he's still alive somewhere?" alone. Arthas on the otherhand is gone. Bolvar took his place, and DKs orderhall quests are already focused on him instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    An old god (a minion of the void lords) self proclaims to be the god of death. Don't think he has much credibility, especially since he's got nothing to do with death, besides maybe orchestrating some of the Lich King's events.

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