do you think freedom of speech should apply to a private membership forum?

[Torgent]

Of course you can. Why wouldn't you? I mean if you insult me, we're probably not gonna be friends anymore, and you will eventually have to go. But if someone is a christian or something and doesn't like it that I say something he finds blasphemic and throws me out saying "my house my rules", he's a dick and can go fuck himself.

So you're saying you would remove someone for insulting you....how is that different from banning someone for breaking rules? It's not, but you're about to do some third grade mental gymnastics to spin this. I will be waiting with me 0/10 judge card.

[schwarzkopf]

Of course you can. Why wouldn't you? I mean if you insult me, we're probably not gonna be friends anymore, and you will eventually have to go.

So - I don't get to say what I want, because if I do then you will eject me from your house.

i.e. - no freedom of speech.

[Adolecent]

100% Freedom of Speech is a myth. There is no place in the world it exists, except your own mind.

[Jtbrig7390]

No and Freedom of Speech does not equal Freedom From Consequences.

Freedom of Speech means you can say "I hate the Government" or "I believe the earth is flat" and not be arrested. But you can not go into a theater and yell fire.

[Rafoel]

as the title asks, do you think it applies or do you think it should apply if it doesnt already?

Freedom of speech also means that government actively protects your right to speak freely, so that no individual can forcefully shut you up and prevent from speaking what you want to speak. Internet de facto is a public space. Any publicly accessible internet forum is no different than public street or public square. Rules can be established about permitted topics, yet they cannot be discriminatory. That is - banning politics talk from culinary forum is okay, but banning talk about specific presidential candidate on forum specifically about presidential election is not okay. Similarly how hiring basing on experience is okay, but basing on skin color is not okay.

[Sky High]

Not in the slightest.

[Rafoel]

Freedom of Speech means you can say "I hate the Government" or "I believe the earth is flat" and not be arrested. But you can not go into a theater and yell fire.

Actually you cannot go anywhere and "yell fire", because that's intentional spreading of panic and possible endangering of others health (if people panic and run over each other).

[Deleted]

Then you are censoring what I have to say.

Yeah, no. Try to make sense.

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So you're saying you would remove someone for insulting you....how is that different from banning someone for breaking rules? It's not, but you're about to do some third grade mental gymnastics to spin this. I will be waiting with me 0/10 judge card.

Depends on what the rules are. I'm not saying there shouldn't be rules or that people shouldn't be banned. But that doesn't mean I support censorship.

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So - I don't get to say what I want, because if I do then you will eject me from your house.

i.e. - no freedom of speech.

Yeah you don't get what freedom of speech means.

[Lady Dragonheart]

No, it is between government and its people, nothing else.

[Osmeric]

as the title asks, do you think it applies or do you think it should apply if it doesnt already?

Of course it should. The government should not be allowed to interfere with speech on private forums.

Oh wait, you meant you should be able to speak on a forum owned by some other person, even if that owner doesn't want you there? Of course not, that would be absurd.

It's like the difference between "the government should not control sexual activities between adults" and "you should not able to say no to my sexual advances".

[Dezerte]

Freedom of speech does not entitle you to a podium to speak from.

[Priestiality]

Freedom of speech also means that government actively protects your right to speak freely, so that no individual can forcefully shut you up and prevent from speaking what you want to speak. Internet de facto is a public space. Any publicly accessible internet forum is no different than public street or public square. Rules can be established about permitted topics, yet they cannot be discriminatory. That is - banning politics talk from culinary forum is okay, but banning talk about specific presidential candidate on forum specifically about presidential election is not okay. Similarly how hiring basing on experience is okay, but basing on skin color is not okay.

lol no. There is no such thing as a "public internet forum". There are publicly accessible internet forums, like the one you're on. However, they are owned by private entities (in this case Curse), and would therefore be comparable to a privately owned business that is open to the general public.

[Dezerte]

Internet de facto is a public space.

Mostly correct. There are nations where this is less true than in other nations.

Any publicly accessible internet forum is no different than public street or public square. Rules can be established about permitted topics, yet they cannot be discriminatory. That is - banning politics talk from culinary forum is okay, but banning talk about specific presidential candidate on forum specifically about presidential election is not okay.

If an Internet forum is publicly owned, sure. Most aren't.

[Kellhound]

as the title asks, do you think it applies or do you think it should apply if it doesnt already?

It does, in so much as freedom of speech is the freedom from government interference. However, as a private forum, the owners are, and should be, allowed to set whatever rules they want.

[kail]

No and Freedom of Speech does not equal Freedom From Consequences.

Freedom of Speech means you can say "I hate the Government" or "I believe the earth is flat" and not be arrested. But you can not go into a theater and yell fire.

It's not even that, freedom of speech does not give control over private owners. You insult or annoy me in my home, I have the right to throw you out. The 1A won't protect you from that. This applies to business property and online space as well.

[Dug]

Yeah you don't get what freedom of speech means.

And you clearly don't understand what censorship means.

[Darththeo]

No, it is private. Just like you can't come onto my property and protest.

[Torgent]

Yeah, no. Try to make sense.

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Depends on what the rules are. I'm not saying there shouldn't be rules or that people shouldn't be banned. But that doesn't mean I support censorship.

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Yeah you don't get what freedom of speech means.

Oh...okay, got it. You just have no idea what the words you are using mean. Figured it out. Thank you!

[Z-Man]

Should I be able to barge in to a wedding and sing "Work Bitch"?

Yes.

And should their security dump what's left of you in the nearest mailbox?

(Trick question: you can't mail biohazards.)

[Deleted]

Yes. Government has no business interfering with what forum owners allow to write.

Yet people are happy for big business to do the same thing.