Is Ice Lance 65% of Frost mages total dmg? No it's not. And Havoc only has 1 spender and that's Chaos Strike, without it being strong we'd do nothing and i guess that's why Blizz have stated that they want to change Havoc gameplay. Because atm it's literally spamming 1 button. You guys complain you have to frostbolt between Ice Lances, we can autohit and pray to God for a resource proc. I hear Frost Mages cry about RNG and it's triggering cus you've got no clue about real RNG, waaa having to cast Frostbolt, get outta here.
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You have decent fillers. Havoc don't. We have Throw Glaive that hits like a noodle and is on a CD. If we have bad luck we can't do anything for seconds. Frost is OP cus together with Affliction locks its way ahead of every other ranged dps and even melee dps in a tier that isnt ranged friendly. That's OP to me.
No it's not. skilled frost players can compete with the best of them when played right. As it should be.
Stop talking nonsense, you clearly do not play frost mage. If you want to bitch about another class then i suggest you go to their forum.
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And since you are absolutely clueless about frost mages you should really refrain from commenting on it.
funny thing is, i never said havoc was OP, i merely said that if ice lance was overtuned then chaos strike is as well as they both contribute a comparable amount of dmg but apparently that means im saying havoc is OP what the guy fail to realize due to lack of knowledge i would imagine, is that frost is the only viable spec mages have atm and shouldnt be nerf in any way until both arcane and fire gets buffs so they can be viable, its only logical that if a class has 3 dps specs and 2 of them are utter shit that the 3rd one should be powerful.
What are you on about? When was the last time that was Frost was the premier Mage spec for a significant duration?
Citing 'incidents' from two expansion ago is inane, particularly given that there were other classes which were far better during MoP than Mage, let alone Frost as a spec.
To this day I am perplexed which is the audience that manages finding this supposed Mage favoritism. It isn't the most hardcore PvErs 'cause they (hopefully) know which classes were actually prominent in end encounters for a long time now. It isn't the best PvPers 'cause class representation tells the true story for every given season. It isn't the most casual players because Mages need gear and don't function all too great in solo content.
I guess it's the average MMO-Champion forum poster who PvEs, but doesn't quite spend 40 hours a week during progression bashing his head against bosses (not that I'd condone them doing so), doesn't quite compete for Gladiator, doesn't quite try to push solo kills of older content and doesn't grind away to hit the highest possible M+ number each and every week. Because if you're doing normal or heroic with no regards to mechanics while overgearing them, bashing your head in RBG/Arena at 1500 or whatever and the highest M+ you do each week is 7, then yes, Mages sure as hell would look like gods walking Azeroth to you.
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And no accusing me of being elitist, I don't raid crazy hours, don't currently play at a high rating in PvP nor do I push the maximum out of my mythic keys or try and solo difficult old encounters. I specified several settings where the class isn't "the chosen one" that people so often make it out to be.
We went into this expansion with one viable spec, Fire. Arcane did numbers in a perfect storm 'cause of 'clever' unintended gameplay. Frost played fine but did no damage whatsoever. Some golden children we are.
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Frost is currently slightly too strong compared to other casters due to the double IL mechanic. Couple that with the super strong legendaries Mage specs have been 'blessed' with and how well the spec interacts with the primary caster trinket in NH, and it's no surprise that the Mage in your guild is pumping out high numbers. I personally hope that they'll fix the double IL bug (first IL hit consumes the debuff, etc) and tune the base numbers slightly up to compensate.
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Wasn't frost a go-to spec through the Draenor? I didn't bothered with it and raided fire through whole 6.*.*, but i do recall being called scrub for playing fire over frost, and every single mage in late pugs when my guild stopped bothering with raiding was frost.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
To be fair, arcane surpassing all other mage specs is not a new thing because of the way they scale with stats. They are hands down the best scaling specs for mages, so the very last raid tier is going to be arcane unless blizzard change their mind on that
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary