Berkeley Mayor exposed As Member of Militant Antifa Group That Orchestrated Riots

[Deleted]

God again this bullshit about this so called antifa...the only sites that mention this fictional enemy if the people are Extreme right wing websites.

Their must be something seriously wrong with right wingers to be living in constant fear, maybe it's daddy issues.

These are not the droids antifa you are looking for.

[Mister Cheese]

East-Germany was run by a totalitarian regime :-)

Wall fell in 1990. I need to know his age, and where he lived to consider his situation. Living in a soviet bloc country is going to give you a bad opinion of being controlled. But the people acting like fascists here are Antifa. Going around beating the hell out of people who they don't like. And trying to silence dissenting opinions. All the while looting under the cover of it.

[Deleted]

East-Germany was run by a totalitarian regime :-)

No no, they were Communists, and as we know they are defenders of democracy, so it was clearly a liberal utopia.

[Zython]

I'm not sure who those people are or what their definition is.

Then you are a happier person than I.

[Maruka]

Damn that is crazy, but nothing surprises me anymore.

[OrcsRLame]

God again this bullshit about this so called antifa...the only sites that mention this fictional enemy if the people are Extreme right wing websites.

Their must be something seriously wrong with right wingers to be living in constant fear, maybe it's daddy issues.

Allow me to point you to one of their organizing locations. https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/

Though from what I understand /r/Anarchism is mainly European Antifa. Just last night they were criticizing Berkeley Antifa for being weak and not violent enough.

[Rhaide]

Again with the slippery slopes. How do you erode something if you defend it from those that seek to destroy it?

If you don't know what a slippery slope fallacy is, please stop participating. It's the easiest fallacy to use and you're still using it wrong.

Correct claim of fallacy: If we stop them from speaking hate, tomorrow we might just imprison them outright!
Incorrect claim of fallacy (You): If we stop them from speaking hate, someone might use the same tactic against us later.

[Forogil]

God again this bullshit about this so called antifa...the only sites that mention this fictional enemy if the people are Extreme right wing websites.

Antifa groups have web-sites themselves, and they also put up actual posters.

However, they are organized as sort of independent local revolutionary cells - and they want to have a shroud of anonymity (don't know if it is to make them look "cool" - or there is any actual reason); so it might be that there are none in your area - or you are just not observant.

But they are so few that they are mostly harmless to most people - similarly as other fascists.

[OrcsRLame]

Antifa groups have web-sites themselves, and they also put up actual posters.

However, they are organized as sort of independent local revolutionary cells - and they want to have a shroud of anonymity (don't know if it is to make them look "cool" - or there is any actual reason); so it might be that there are none in your area - or you are just not observant.

But they are so few that they are mostly harmless to most people - similarly as other fascists.

I don't think they're as few in number as you seem to believe.



And yes, blah blah Lauren Southern is right wing and Satan. If you don't like the source, feel free to post your own leftist source that has footage of the Berkeley riots.

[Elba]

Communism explicitly rejects the bourgeois liberal state.
Its worse than Nazism

Communism rejects argentocracy. Democratic systems that are distorted by the rich.

Explain how Communism is worse than Nazism.

[oplawlz]

Or he can be left alone unless he personally commits an illegal act.

IF he actually ordered the police to stand down and allowed riots to run rampant a federal sentence isn't out of the question.

[Forogil]

Yes, but if he did that and if it is against the law, then we already have systems to deal with that.

According to a tweet in the article linked by OP that is already under way. I don't know if it is true - and I certainly cannot tell what FBI might find regarding the mayor's actions.

[Deleted]

Communism rejects argentocracy. Democratic systems that are distorted by the rich.

No they reject democracy.
Read my Sig for the relevant quote.

Explain how Communism is worse than Nazism.

Death toll - its currently 100 million and counting against, 7-8 million for the Nazis.

[mage21]

I don't think they're as few in number as you seem to believe.



And yes, blah blah Lauren Southern is right wing and Satan. If you don't like the source, feel free to post your own leftist source that has footage of the Berkeley riots.

The guy wearing a fluorescent green "Jesus" shirt kicking someone on the ground disappoints me.

[Zython]

No no, they were Communists, and as we know they are defenders of democracy, so it was clearly a liberal utopia.

Question. If your priority is protecting democracy, why are you defending fascists?

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No they reject democracy.
Read my Sig for the relevant quote.

So do fascists. But you're more than happy to carry water for them.

Death toll - its currently 100 million and counting against, 7-8 million for the Nazis.

So Nazism is better because they kill the "right" people? Also, if you were concerned about death tolls due to ideology, you'd reject capitalism. And yet the deaths caused by it are fine with you.

Almost as if you don't really care about death, but are more concerned about protecting capitalism at all costs.

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So we already know that you think that free speech should be forbidden. And no. I do not advocate for violence. Against ANYONE.

Unless the state does it, in which case you're cool with it.

I'm sick of reading that in this fucking thread. Nobody is advocating that being a nazi is okay either.

Then maybe they should stop carrying water for Nazis.

That will never happen. It will never get that far again. Stop insisting it.

Do you have any factual basis for this, or are you saying this because you simply want it to be the case?

Yes, I am aware the source is shit. But I linked it anyway. Nobody is talking about this. But there are links and I thought they were worth talking about. And considering how far this thread has gone that is all I care about. It has stirred up enough of a discussion about ANTIFA.

Really? Because no one here will shut up about how any opposition to fascism is worse than anything fascist have ever done.

That was in Germany 1933. This is the world in 2017. Learn to live in today.

Because clearly, the geographic location and point in time immunizes us from fascism for...some reason.

[Deathcries]

Question. If your priority is protecting democracy, why are you defending fascists?

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So do fascists. But you're more than happy to carry water for them.



So Nazism is better because they kill the "right" people? Also, if you were concerned about death tolls due to ideology, you'd reject capitalism. And yet the deaths caused by it are fine with you.

Almost as if you don't really care about death, but are more concerned about protecting capitalism at all costs.

Please explain to me how capitalism causes death? Do some people get shitted on under capitalism? Sure. The lazy and ones with bad luck. However it's very few compared to countries that have had Communism/Socialism. I can guarantee more people has died due to socialism/communism then capitalism. It's the best system out there. Too bad America isn't utilizing it anymore.

[Deleted]

Question. If your priority is protecting democracy, why are you defending fascists?

Because democracy guarantees everyone rights, including fascists.

So do fascists. But you're more than happy to carry water for them.

What fucking fascists?

So Nazism is better because they kill the "right" people?

100 million and counting against, 7-8 million
Its math.
Is subtraction not something you have mastered?

Also, if you were concerned about death tolls due to ideology, you'd reject capitalism. And yet the deaths caused by it are fine with you.

Not a single person has been killed by the 'ideology' of capitalism, because that's fucking nonsense.

[Stacyrect]

I wouldn't worry about antifa/bamn blackbloc furries. The mayor and faculty at Berkeley displayed metric fuck tons of bad judgement in associating themselves with bamn/antifa. Had Milo just done his speech and been on his way, none of this would be happening. Instead, litigation is being drafted to sue both town and school, rising threat of federal funds being stripped, all of which has left Berkeley with a permanently tarnished reputation. The people unmasked and named are now known parts of a terrorist organization. What did they gain?

Not a damn thing. Instead, they have emboldened conservatives to keep marching. Milo is setting up a fucking shanty town. Ann Coulter has thrown Berkeley's concerns to the wind and will go regardless. More freedom rallies are planned. Not just at Berkeley, everywhere.

On a parallel path, former BAMN members are coming out denouncing the group as little more then a cult. Federal authorities are definitely at the very least are keeping a very close eye on their members after their terrorist plots on inauguration day and ball were foiled.

In a few years, we won't even remember what antifa is.

How exactly does one defeat a nazi, fascist, carrot?

[Putin-Chan]

Antifa even attacks other leftists that they dont deem radical enough. Should be enough to categorize them as anti-democratic.

Antifa attacks police, antifa attacks churches antifa attacks other antifa groups.

And no burning down cars of politicans of all sort of parties is not self defence.

Neo-Nazis and Anrifa are natural enemies.

Like Conservatives and Antifa.

Or Centrists and Antifa.

Or Liberals and Antifa.

Or Antifa and other members of Antifa.

Damn Antifa! They Ruined Antifa!

[Ivanstone]

No they reject democracy.
Read my Sig for the relevant quote.

Death toll - its currently 100 million and counting against, 7-8 million for the Nazis.

SO let me get this straight.

You pull two numbers out of your ass without citation.
One of which is pure fantasy (the Nazis killed much more than 7-8 million, it was in the 30-40 million range).
You also purposely exclude Nazi allies and other fascist governments over the years.
To make some imaginary point that one group of revolting totalitarian regimes is somehow worse than a different group of revolting totalitarian regimes.

All because the commies are "icky". Never mind that there are virtually no communist governments of consequence left.

Pro tip: You're the one who with the Stalin quote in your sig. Quite frankly the dude let 10 million people starve all because he didn't have a clue on how to run an economy. I wouldn't trust his opinion on anything.