1st turn french election

[Deleted]

It is a thing, Le Pen has anti-PC positions like being against mass third world migration.

You know what "political correctness" means, right? There is no such thing in France.

[minteK917]

It is a thing, Le Pen has anti-PC positions like being against mass third world migration.

You realize that first its not an anti PC position and 3 of the 4 leading candidate make the same case against immigration. This include Macron, Le Pen and Fillon.

[ranzino]

we dont know who is the next competitor : le pen, melenchon (far left) or fillon (thief party)

Le Pen vs. Macron, but first forecast says 23 % for both. even if Marine LP gets a higher score here as soon all votes are counted, it is irrelevant. At least it is expected Marine cannot gain much from the other candidate's bases in the second turn.

[Deleted]

Hamon just said he is going to support Macron in the second round.

[PC2]

You realize that first its not an anti PC position and two 3 of the 4 candidate make the same case against immigration. This include Macron and Le Pen.

I see, I hadn't heard that about the other candidates.

[Jastall]

First 'turn' narrows down race between 2 candidates (assuming no one wins outright with like... 60% I think?)

Second turn is final election between top 2.

50%+1 on the first turn is a win, but it hasn't happened in a long time (ever, actually, I think). Few people in France vote strategically during the first turn; that is saved for the 2nd.

And as I suspected, Macron vs Le Pen during the second round. Unless Le Pen performs way, way above expectations, I suspect Macron is the next President, even if the vote will probably be much closer than Chirac vs Le Pen's father where the latter got crushed.

And before anyone gets started, no, this isn't a Trump situation, because France doesn't have a stupid electoral system and every voice counts as one there. Macron beat Le Pen on the first round, and she's not a popular second choice at all.

[psyquest]

And now, the political forces get ready to crush the far right.

as expected.

[Deleted]

And now, the political forces get ready to crush the far right.

as expected.

Lets see what Mélenchon says tonight.

[PC2]

Like PC against Mac or?

Political correctness. Generally it means the PC person will apply personal labels to dissenters instead of focusing on the argument itself.

[Aggrophobic]

It is a thing, Le Pen has anti-PC positions like being against mass third world migration.

No, I'm pretty sure thats an american thing.

[ranzino]

Hamon just said he is going to support Macron in the second round.

not much to gain here each of the 2 front runners need ~ 30 % from somewhere else.

[minteK917]

Second round will probably be around 70% vs 30% for Macron as president.

[Frontenac]

Everything that can scream, write or bark will go in the streets to support Macron : the socialists, the communists, the republicans, the Jews, the Grand Orient de France (Free-Masons), etc. Melanchon probably wont support anyone. Macron will most probably become the President.

What will be interesting is the legislative elections. Macron has no party. What kind of National Assembly will he get? How many deputies will be from Front National? Who will he have to choose as Prime Minister? What government will he have to cohabit with? Left, right? How will he enforce his program on the government?

Oh, and at 6%, the Socialist Party is on the brink of extinction.

[Ahovv]

No, I'm pretty sure thats an american thing.

Every Swedish person I've talked to despises their mass immigration. They say it's the only real problem with Sweden.

[Deleted]

Second round will probably be around 70% vs 30% for Macron as president.

55-60% Macron vs 45-40% Le Pen

[Etselion]

You know what "political correctness" means, right? There is no such thing in France.

He just likes his buzzwords.

[minteK917]

55-60% Macron vs 45-40% Le Pen

Nah 45% is just unrealistic not happening, not even close.

[CostinR]

I think the most important outcome of this election is that the major political parties of Frances got effectively wiped out.

The Left got single digits. The mainstream right could have won but their corruption finally got the better of them.

[Deleted]

The Left got single digits.

Center-left voted Macron (many former PS were behind Macron). Melenchon still has 20%. The Left is not gone, the PS is.

[Etselion]

Every Swedish person I've talked to despises their mass immigration. They say it's the only real problem with Sweden.

Every Swedish person I've talked to loves their mass immigration. They say it's the only good thing about Sweden.

See?