That nature article isn't a whitepaper, nor is it conclusive. There's quite a lot of speculation however. You can argue that in some cases, a person can be both biological sexes at once, which doesn't contradict what I've stated (and I did have that in mind when I posted.)
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This is getting way off topic, but I'm not arguing that at all, nor did I say even one thing about chromosomes. Biological sex comes down strictly to gametes. In some rare cases, somebody produces both, and thus this person is both male and female at the same time. There are also cases where a person has no gametes at all, and thus is biologically neuter, and thus doesn't have a sex. Gender obviously falls a little further from that tree.
Nonetheless, all of this still falls perfectly within what I said.
EDIT: In fact, look at Masark's nature article. Notice the table halfway down the page. How many choices does it offer for gonads? Notice its all testes and ovaries. There's your answer.
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On a more philosophical level - when you reduce and simplify a concept this much, what meaning and usefulness does it have left? Okay, on a strict binary level if you have characteristic 1 you're "a", with characteristic 2 you're "b", now what? There's a whole world of content on the discussion you seem to be avoiding (and not for moderation purposes). What does being "a" mean and how much variance is there within that group and between it and "b"? This is when you get into more nuance and have to admit there's something more than just 2 categories and that's the end of discussion.
Stop talking about gender and talk about Antifa please. I fail to see the relevance.
Right. Because they demand that everyone conform to a singular identity. Like collectivists.
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Because that's what the science says.
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Ok, then explain what capitalism is for the class.
That's not what the facts says.No, pretty much no one is starving in any modern, capitalist economy. This is basically a non-problem.
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That's because someone tried to own me and failed miserably, as they always do. *Sigh*
Holy shit, I can't tell what this thread was supposed to be about.
I don't think US conservatives have demanded a single identity. If you want an example of that, see France.
What you're getting into (and it's quite off topic I'll add) is arguing against rejecting the idea that somebody can just say "I'm this" and that just makes it so. If you are a skeptic, as you claim to be, you'd also have an issue with the idea that somebody was born in the wrong body, (my perspective on this is that there is no wrong body, there's just your body) or that gender is assigned at birth (when I hear this question I ask "assigned by whom?") or that gender can be "reassigned".
But more to the point, and a point that is on topic at that, are you also arguing that your rejection of those who reject transgender issues makes you a fascist?
If the Mayor told the Police to stand down as the OP says, then he should be arrested for endangering lives and for abetting domestic terrorists. Trash like that has no place in higher office, regardless of political view and any behavior that abuses public office to push and silence any political view save your own, is the text book definition of a Fascist.
Next they'll be murdering people in their homes and writing the words "Pig" on their walls in blood like the Manson girls.
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And why do you think a facebook page, a twitter handle and Wikipedia with just swedish news sources is more credible then a reddit page?
Credible involves something like reuters and the BBC
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Don't think I ask to much when I say give me something credible and not a random Reddit page or, in you're case, youtube cellphone video's.
Give me the BBC or Reuters, news agencies that have proven to know what journalism means (so no Breitbart and Fox news).
The only people that are actually complaining about this ''group'' are right-wing extremist who's main argument is ''we know that we want to do bad shit but those people that are against us are the real villains ''
Reality isn't biased. Video evidence is the most credible type of evidence that can possibly exist.
If you want to deny facts because of where they come from, that's not really my problem.
Also, it's not a random reddit page. If you have a basic understanding of how to sign up for a website, you can actually go and talk to Antifa members. Like, stop talking to me and go tell THEM that they don't exist. Fuck me, get it from the horse's mouth.
Video evidance is the most credible?
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/u...-indicted.html
I trust in certain source's that have proven to follow journalism ethics and standards, a silly cellphone video found on youtube is anything but credible.
I can disagree with certain articles (especially the way they write) and conclusions but at least I know that those journalist have followed a certain guidelines. Lets take the BBC for example and how they write about Israel and the Palestinians
http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journal...30702112133696
I don't agree with how this is portrayed because they never specifically tell on what basis they dispute they are open about it and I can respect the reason behind it.When writing a story about settlements, BBC journalists can aim, where relevant, to include context to the effect that ‘all settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this’.
A stupid youtube video or reddit pages you lot are linking can be nothing more then a Halloween event or a troll page.
The article you linked does not say that the Planned Parenthood video is fake, just that is was made rather unethically. The video itself is still real. Did you even read what you linked?
You do understand that reality is not partisan, yes? It's not a matter of opinion or interpretation, you can physically watch recordings of what happened. You're acting like one of those flat earthers when you show them a video from the ISS. It's not just one video either. There's fuck tons of videos of the Berkeley riots. Take your pick. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...berkeley+riots
It is kind of funny though that you're linking the nytimes to support your argument, when it was a nytimes journalist that was filming Antifa members in one of the videos I linked.
Planned Parenthood is a doctored video plus I didn't use the word fake you did and the reason why these people are having legal troubles.
I said a standalone video isn't a credible evidence of anything not that's fake. Fake video doesn't exist since that recording will always be real no mater what.
So please use something credible instead of a random youtube page from god knows who, hell given that on the first page I google I get results from websites like Infowars and Breitbart I'm still not convinced that this isn't some sort of elaborate trolling by the alt-right.