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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuseishu View Post
    Public holidays inject money into the economy
    I laughed. Nice broken window fallacy.

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    The telegraph is a horrible newspaper. You might as well as get your news from the bin.
    "I don't agree with it so it's all 100% made up bullshit!"

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    The current direction labour are going if they were in power they'd probably turn us into the European Venezuela.

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    I would vote for him, but this is a bit dumb and unnecessary. At this same time, to call it a "new low" is more than a bit dramatic don't you think?
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

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    The new low will be after the election when they get decimated.
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    Remember, legally no one sane takes Tucker Carlson seriously.

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    Labour is going to lose Wales.

    They have never lost Wales.

    Ever.

    Since they rose up in the 1920s on a national stage the Labour party has always won elections in Wales.

    Corbyn deserves to be thrown to the wolves for being a pathetic leader unable to tell London to shove it. He has placed such an importance on those London seats and voters that he will lose the rest of the country. Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    That chart is wrong at least for Greece, since there are actually 5 paid public holidays; there are 6 more elective holidays that a business can choose to follow; many do, mainly because the public and banking sectors always do but anyone working in retail or customer service will rarely have those days off.
    Comeon now using Greece as an example! We all know everyday is a paid holiday in Greece.

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    https://twitter.com/JeremyCorbyn4PM?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    I am pretty sure this twitter image from 4 days ago is rock bottom.

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    We have the fewest bank holdiays of any country in G20 but yeah this is terrible lmao
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    Corbyn will not get elected so this is moot.

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    Embarrassing, sure, but not quite as low as Iraq.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    . . . and I can tell you as an accountant that a 5day workweek employee is entitled to 20 days of paid leave, 3 sick days and 5 public holidays. Additional holidays may be granted but it is up to the business (though the current "socialists" love to disgrace May Day and make it a public holiday). That chart presents the 20 days of paid leave correctly but the 11 public holidays is simply not true so I assume that chart cannot be used as an accurate resource.
    And who said accountants don't have a sense of humor!

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    Labour trying to bribe the working class as usual.

    No ones going to vote for you Corbyn, do the decent thing and step aside.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Meafy View Post
    The current direction labour are going if they were in power they'd probably turn us into the European Venezuela.
    Hang on, isn't it your right wing party that is proposing price controls on energy prices?
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Hang on, isn't it your right wing party that is proposing price controls on energy prices?
    If you're in the US, our main Right Wing party will be further Left on a lot of issues than the Democrats.

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    Hang on, isn't it your right wing party that is proposing price controls on energy prices?
    We do not have a right wing party that remotely has a chance of getting power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helden View Post
    If you're in the US, our main Right Wing party will be further Left on a lot of issues than the Democrats.
    Agreed. But that doesn't really answer my point. The prior poster was saying that labour would turn the country into Venezuela, but price controls are 1000% exactly what you see happening there every day. So shouldn't he be criticizing the conservative party for Venezuela-izing the country as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Agreed. But that doesn't really answer my point. The prior poster was saying that labour would turn the country into Venezuela, but price controls are 1000% exactly what you see happening there every day. So shouldn't he be criticizing the conservative party for Venezuela-izing the country as well?
    There are varying degree's of Socialism, just because the Tories are introducing price caps on Energy tariffs doesn't mean they're going full Venezuela, hell I don't even think Labour would go that far, it wouldn't work in the UK, we've got too much capitalism ingrained in us.

    Corbyn has a reputation as being very far Left leaning however, which is why people usually conflate his policies with being very similar to Communism.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Helden View Post
    There are varying degree's of Socialism, just because the Tories are introducing price caps on Energy tariffs doesn't mean they're going full Venezuela, hell I don't even think Labour would go that far, it wouldn't work in the UK, we've got too much capitalism ingrained in us.

    Corbyn has a reputation as being very far Left leaning however, which is why people usually conflate his policies with being very similar to Communism.
    Umm sorry but I don't think you can get more communistic than price controls. I mean that's literally the sort of thing you saw in the USSR. Hell Cuba still has them.

    I just find it very very odd that you call one person a communist but not the actual person that's following a textbook policy of communism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Umm sorry but I don't think you can get more communistic than price controls. I mean that's literally the sort of thing you saw in the USSR. Hell Cuba still has them.

    I just find it very very odd that you call one person a communist but not the actual person that's following a textbook policy of communism.
    And? Communism has some great points. Hell you can look at the NHS and call it communist, taking wealth from masses to fund a universal health care system.

    There is a difference between taking aspects of an ideology that make sense and going full blown Venezuela.

    The majority of European countries are a mish mash of Socialist and Capitalist policies, like I said in my opening post during this dialogue, what would be considered Left leaning in the US and what is considered Left leaning in Europe are two very different things.

    As for why peope throw the communist jibes at Corbyn? Comedy mostly.

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    Beware of politicians bearing gifts, this is essentially a con. A government could declare 100 bank holidays and it will still not benefit anyone. In the UK you as a worker have no right to take a bank holiday off, you have no right to be paid extra for working a bank holiday and also you cannot refuse to work on a bank holiday if your employment contract says you are to work on that day. So the promise of 4 extra days is meaningless and most employers will either ignore it or hit you square in your pay cheque or holiday allocation within your employment contract. All boils down to unless you employment contract is changed you receive nothing no matter what any government says. Corbyn's attempt to bribe us is a total failure when you apply any amount of thought to it.

    Update:
    Actually looking at the law it's very clear this is a complete waste of time. By law (taken from https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitleme...ts/entitlement):

    "Almost all workers are legally entitled to 5.6 weeks’ paid holiday per year (known as statutory leave entitlement or annual leave). An employer can include bank holidays as part of statutory annual leave."

    So for UK workers on a 5 day (or more) work week they are entitled to 28 days off which at the employers discretion can include bank holidays or not. So in a worse case scenario companies can except the new bank holidays and simply reduce the days of your choosing to go on holiday by 4 and say tough you have to take the state bank holidays instead.
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