“You want to keep the EU funds, but you don’t want our values.” - EU to Hungary

[Deleted]

Throwing insults around, is that the best counter arguement you can come up with?

My point still stands that the CEU is one of the worlds leading Universities with no Hungarian Universitiy even getting close to in rankings. Also the EU does fund Universities. It also funds research projects at universities.

So it's ok for the CEU to abuse Hungarian law when it suits it, but when Hungarian law wants to tackle it, it's suddenly the EU that must come first?

[Flarelaine]

Throwing insults around, is that the best counter arguement you can come up with?

Derailment and insults is the standard modus operandi of Orbán's followers.

My point still stands that the CEU is one of the worlds leading Universities with no Hungarian Universitiy even getting close to in rankings. Also the EU does fund Universities. It also funds research projects at universities.

And EU funding is always welcome, as they tend to not ask questions about how the money is actually spent - although this may be changing as the Hungarian government is becoming more arrogant and their critics louder. It is getting difficult for the EU to sweep this embarrassment under the rug. CEU, however is funded by George Soros and is therefore quite independent of the government. It is this independence that the government cannot brook. For the same reason, they are putting limits on NGOs as well - some say all this fuss over CEU is just a smokescreen for the latter.

[Deleted]

And EU funding is always welcome, as they tend to not ask questions about how the money is actually spent - although this may be changing as the Hungarian government is becoming more arrogant and their critics louder. It is getting difficult for the EU to sweep this embarrassment under the rug. CEU, however is funded by George Soros and is therefore quite independent of the government. It is this independence that the government cannot brook. For the same reason, they are putting limits on NGOs as well - some say all this fuss over CEU is just a smokescreen for the latter.

If this isn't proof that something should be destroyed, I don't know what is.

[Flarelaine]

So it's ok for the CEU to abuse Hungarian law when it suits it, but when Hungarian law wants to tackle it, it's suddenly the EU that must come first?

CEU has kept all Hungarian laws enacted previously. The government has knowingly come up with terms that are impossible to adhere to, requiring a treaty with the US federal government while this is strictly states' business in America.

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If this isn't proof that something should be destroyed, I don't know what is.

So what exactly is your beef with him?

[Deleted]

CEU has kept all Hungarian laws enacted previously. The government has knowingly come up with terms that are impossible to adhere to, requiring a treaty with the US federal government while this is strictly states' business in America.

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So what exactly is your beef with him?

When people think of the evil White man in power pulling the strings to ruin the world, He is that kind of man.

[Cybran]

Care to provide the exemptions in all the EU countries codes of law, that Islamic refugees have?

There's none that I know of, but since you seem to know of some illuminati alterations of the legal code, surely you can provide the proof?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289

But separation reportedly prompted two migrants under 18 to attempt suicide.
The policy was reversed earlier this week - with children as young as 14 reunited with their husbands - after the issue was raised with the Danish Immigration Service (DIS) by lawmaker Josephine Fock.
"It is completely outrageous. We are talking about people who have fled to Denmark who are being split from each other. Some of them have children together and investigating individual [asylum] cases takes an unbelievably long time," Ms Fock told Metroxpress news service.
The DIS cited Denmark's "international obligations" as the trigger for its policy change, concluding that enforcing separate living quarters would violate the UN's Convention on the Rights of the Child and Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees the right to one's "private and family life".

The EU allows 13-14 year old girls to get arranged marrages to older Muslim men for one. Statutory rape on a mass scale is arguably worse than shutting down a US agent's university in my oppinion.

[Deleted]

The EU allows 13-14 year old girls to get arranged marrages to older Muslim men for one.

And to hold rallies for Political powers outside of the EU.

[Bakis]

Spot on, Hungary is going wrong in so many areas it s frightening.

[Azadina]

The EU allows 13-14 year old girls to get arranged marrages to older Muslim men for one.

I seem to see no legal code quotes in your reply, only claims without proof.

[Cybran]

I seem to see no legal code quotes in your reply, only claims without proof.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289

[Ravenblade]

Hehe... if you like this much getting informed by one sided biased liar mental patients then you should watch the speech of the italian Pittella, he makes a million times better performance than Verhofstadt

I know this sounds almost inconceivable but I am not listening or watching a speech because I admire the performance of the speaker, I am over 80 years late for that. I have listened to all mental patients in that video including Pitella and Orban.

[Flarelaine]

The EU allows 13-14 year old girls to get arranged marrages to older Muslim men for one. Statutory rape on a mass scale is arguably worse than shutting down a US agent's university in my oppinion.

You got sources on either of those claims for a change?

[Azadina]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289

Which countrys legal code is that link? I found no legal text whatsoever in it, did you? I specifically asked for the legal code, and then the exceptions written in the code for all EU countries, that have written exceptions in law for Muslims, as was claimed. Will you provide or not?

[alexw]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37518289

Did you even read the article you linked? That the EU is unsure what to do because they are being married off to protect them from sexual violence as well as the fact that after separating them some have attempted suicide?

I mean I don't know how the hell you get the idea that the EU approves of child marriages from that article, because it sure as hell does not say that.

[Cybran]

Which countrys legal code is that link? I found no legal text whatsoever in it, did you? I specifically asked for the legal code, and then the exceptions written in the code for all EU countries, that have written exceptions in law for Muslims, as was claimed. Will you provide or not?

It sucks that facts don't support your strawman argument. No need to be agitated.

[Mafic]

You got sources on either of those claims for a change?

It was a decision by the Swedish court independent of the EU as Germany has a similar policy regarding asylum seekers. But the EU's silence on it though is disturbing.

[Azadina]

It sucks that facts don't support your strawman argument. No need to be agitated.

Are you going to provide proof or not? None of what you have linked, have shown that Muslims are allowed to marry children in EU countries. They've done it elsewhere where it's legal.

[Cybran]

Are you going to provide proof or not?

Is statutory rape and child marriage a crime in Europe? - Yes
Are muslim migrants allowed to do both of those things? - Yes

There.

[Flarelaine]

Are you going to provide proof or not?

Actually, would it matter? He was successful at derailing a thread about Hungary and CEU. "But muslims" seems to work as well as "But her emails".

[Deleted]

Are you going to provide proof or not? None of what you have linked, have shown that Muslims are allowed to marry children in EU countries. They've done it elsewhere where it's legal.

Are the Marriages counted as legal binding in the EU when they migrate over?