I mean there is shit like this floating around:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...rumps-america/
fucking racist milk..
How is that any different than what you're doing now? You don't support their view so you're lambasting them. ICE has questionable methods in how they go about enforcing the law, even ICE itself admits to it. If the the concern is only about the results then there's not much point in continuing this discussion. I want illegal immigration kept in check as well but I don't want the government or law enforcement over reaching their bounds. And this is from someone who lives right on the border and deals with immigrants (legal and illegal) every single day.
That was a future Deltan.
http://imperator-zor.deviantart.com/...ltan-642860647
I'm not being Nationalistic you simpleton, Jesus this is the entire Point. V for Vendetta Demonizing EVERYONE. Because the British Preference is Centralist in the extreme.
V was Guy fawkes because he represented a duality, He was fighting against a Facist dictatorship, but he himself was an idea of Anarchy and bedlam, He was an Anti-Villain. He was cruel, sadistic and Psychopathic, easily able to avoid the shades of Grey the Government was to enact his petty vengeance and his dreams for Anarchy. THAT is why he is Guy Fawkes. Because We burn Guy Fawkes on bonfire because he was a TERRORIST against the people of Britain, but also a symbol that the Government is still at the whim of the People.
To try and cite that as your defense AGAINST a tool, was folly.
You said we should be calling out the hoods and not the hammer. We do call out the hoods, those that would use this tool as a means to be prejudice and call in a tip about every latino person they see and every accent they hear and then we get "How is that racist?" Prob drop your hood bit if you're not going to be consistent with it.
How do you identify illegals to report them? From what I understand of illegal immigration, their crime is being here. We are here as well and display the same illegality of being here, as anyone illegally here. What would identify an illegal for you to call? Just them telling you for no reason that they are committing a crime?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
So in order to stop arming racists, we should just have no hammers. THAT is your argument, Well no, Your argument is We should have some hammers, but only hammers that you think we should have, that are the exact same fucking hammer and used the exact same fucking way by Racists or not because semantics.
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Then care to enlighten me? You argue nothing and simply stand to be antagonistic to my stance.
An anti-immigrant hotline? This reminds me of the Red Scare and McCarthyism... :|
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
You said the criticism should be directed at the racists themselves and not the tool. That is the criticism ffs. The tool is good in theory but it's going to be abused by racists especially when you give it such a narrow purpose. Crime hotlines already exist and even those are abused but they do a lot of good. This shit is just going to be fuck loads of false reports and paranoia.
Because it has the same effect. You are not going to be reporting people who are illegal, because you don't know who they are and if you did, you already can call the authorities. A hotline creates fear and I'm not talking about scaring illegals. And with fear, an incompetent baboon can be president.
Edit: missed a not, which changed my post completely. Doh!
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I don't think you understand what demonization means or how it works no matter how much in tune you claim to be with V. If you have a hammer that says "use this to stop crime", it doesn't profile or enable intrinsically. If you have a hammer that says "use this to report on neighbors you suspect are here illegally", the mere presence of the hammer signals that its usage is important. It is divisive intrinsically. It elevates the crime to something greater than it actually is.
If the existing hammer isn't doing the job correctly, fix the hammer.
You're not allowed to discuss conspiracy theories on mmo-champion, which makes me wonder what they're trying to hide.