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    10 Outrageous Ways Russian Media Covered The Crash Of MH17; (source)

    10: LifeNews Anchor Contradicts Herself Within Minutes
    9: Channel One Shows A Crude Photoshop Image Of A Fighter Jet Firing At MH17
    8: Komsomolskaya Pravda Claims It Was An Attempt To Assassinate Putin
    7: Russia 24 Accuses Ukrainian Air Controllers Of Deliberately Diverting MH17
    6: The Tale Of Carlos, The Mystery Air Controller
    5: LifeNews Reports A Bomb Explosion Aboard MH17
    4: RT Suggests MH17 Was Downed By An Israeli Python Missile
    3: Komsomolskaya Pravda Publishes Fake CIA Phone Calls
    2: Speculation That MH17 Was Actually The Missing MH370
    1: The Infuriating Claim That MH17 Was Filled With Corpses

    Some of these deflects are funny, some are just plain dumb. But when you lean back and think about it then there's only one conclusion: the Russians are a disgrace-stain on human history.
    You should really take a break dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJrogue View Post
    You should really take a break dude.
    What, can't stand having your favorite country in bad light? And by Russians, I'd imagine he means the government of Russia, which is full of shit and is a disgrace.

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    The JIT report is a piece of shit and basically unverifiable. Do you not remember this list of questions asked by Omtzigt, and how they went unanswered? The JIT report only serves one function and those are the geopolitical interests of those involved.

    This whole thing smells from back to front. Was it the Russians? Probably, but you can't 100% rule out the Ukranians either. For all the promises Rutte and Timmermans made, there's fuck all actually being done to find out what really happened. There's too much at stake for both the EU and Russia since they're both playing tug-of-war with the Ukraine at this point. It makes an unbiased investigation impossible since they both want to blame eachother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    What, can't stand having your favorite country in bad light? And by Russians, I'd imagine he means the government of Russia, which is full of shit and is a disgrace.
    Can't stand such idiotic generic remarks. Can't even stand other idiots trying to justify them. If you don't see the problem with this sentence:
    the Russians are a disgrace-stain on human history.
    than you're just as bad. And no, if he meant the government he would have said that.
    By the way, what the fuck is YOUR problem. You just HAD to defend that ridiculous post didn't you. Lol

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    Proofs
    mmo-champion.com/threads/2210358-Press-conf-quot-MH17-shot-down-by-BUK-missile-system-from-Russia-quot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    10 Outrageous Ways Russian Media Covered The Crash Of MH17; (source)

    10: .......

    Some of these deflects are funny, some are just plain dumb. But when you lean back and think about it then there's only one conclusion: the Russians are a disgrace-stain on human history.
    I assume you mean their goverment? But yes, those media "reports" were fascinating. Damage control, bad one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berndorf View Post
    Because nearly everything political on this board for the last 4-5 months has been about Trump, in particular threads which also have something to do with Putin or Russia. This isn't hard to understand if you visit these boards even semi regularly.
    That's true, but this is about something that happened 3 years before Trump was even relevant.

    Your cute little bias is showing =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJrogue View Post
    Can't stand such idiotic generic remarks. Can't even stand other idiots trying to justify them. If you don't see the problem with this sentence:
    than you're just as bad. And no, if he meant the government he would have said that.
    By the way, what the fuck is YOUR problem. You just HAD to defend that ridiculous post didn't you. Lol
    How am I just as bad thinking that the United States, Russia and China are the worst things to happen to modern humans?

    You sound like a hypocrite trying to justify his hypocrisy by pointing at other people and screaming "WHAT ABOUT THEM?!"
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I assume you mean their goverment? But yes, those media "reports" were fascinating. Damage control, bad one at that.
    "Every country has the government it deserves."
    Joseph de Maistre (1753 – 1821)

    I can get it that people find it "fascinating", and mabey you can immagine how how us Dutch think about it with our 200 civilians murdered.

    We hate Putin, and his henchmen, and although we are a small country we are very wealthy. It will go slow, but the people responsible for this atrocity will pay dearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    But mark my words: those responsible will pay!
    Your words are shit. The responsible will NOT pay. That plane should have NEVER been there, over that shit country, with shit people killing each other all over the place. If there's a war, you don't go near, stay the fuck out. That plane was fucked up by mistake, it's like the good fucking Americans killing innocent Serbians or bombing the fucking Chinese Embassy and call it collateral damage. Has any of those fuckers ever "payed"? NO. And they will NEVER pay.

    The ones that should pay are the airlines and the idiots that made the flight path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    "Every country has the government it deserves."
    Joseph de Maistre (1753 – 1821)

    I can get it that people find it "fascinating", and mabey you can immagine how how us Dutch think about it with our 200 civilians murdered.

    We hate Putin, and his henchmen, and although we are a small country we are very wealthy. It will go slow, but the people responsible for this atrocity will pay dearly.
    No, most likely they will not.
    I still really hope you meant the goverment, the country, not the Russians as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosotti View Post
    Your words are shit. The responsible will NOT pay. That plane should have NEVER been there, over that shit country, with shit people killing each other all over the place. If there's a war, you don't go near, stay the fuck out. That plane was fucked up by mistake, it's like the good fucking Americans killing innocent Serbians or bombing the fucking Chinese Embassy and call it collateral damage. Has any of those fuckers ever "payed"? NO. And they will NEVER pay.

    The ones that should pay are the airlines and the idiots that made the flight path.
    1. It was flying way above the battlefield. Remember, that is a war were rebels have no air power. There were other airlines flying planes too.
    2. Nobody in their right mind would assume that some retards will shoot down passenger jet. It's quite hard to not understand what kind of target one is shooting at. BUK is not the simplest system in the world and requires knowledge.
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    Bombing Serbia stopped the genocide. And guess what, mistakes happen. USA is not bloodthirsty nor it ever wanted to bomb that embassy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    We hate Putin, and his henchmen, and although we are a small country we are very wealthy. It will go slow, but the people responsible for this atrocity will pay dearly.
    Yes the Srebrenica massacre show that the Dutch can hold a grudge over a long time and use its little political influence to devastating effect. The most ironic is if the Russian did only say "Mistake hapen in war we are sorry" and payed som money to the relatives, then the incident would be almost forgotten now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    1. It was flying way above the battlefield. Remember, that is a war were rebels have no air power. There were other airlines flying planes too.
    2. Nobody in their right mind would assume that some retards will shoot down passenger jet. It's quite hard to not understand what kind of target one is shooting at. BUK is not the simplest system in the world and requires knowledge.
    The BUK system that shot MH17 was brought in from the RF the same day it shot the passenger plane from the sky, and exited Ukraine the same night back to the RF. There were also many civilian flights over that area every day and there was a warning issued by the Ukrainian authorities to keep flying above 10 km, since all military aircrafts weren't above 6-7 km and the Rebels weren't supposed to have sophisticated SAM's to take down planes that high.

    It really looks like the Russians deliberately brought in a SAM that could take out a civilian plane above 10 km and used it on purpose, and thats why this investigation is labeled a criminal investigation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    No, most likely they will not.
    First of all the sanctions on Russia are for a part due to pressure from us and our allies course of MH17. Secondly we're getting closer to the actual people involved. Thirdly, we're not going to let this rest until justice is served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    2. Nobody in their right mind would assume that some retards will shoot down passenger jet. It's quite hard to not understand what kind of target one is shooting at.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberi...es_Flight_1812

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    First of all the sanctions on Russia are for a part due to pressure from us and our allies course of MH17. Secondly we're getting closer to the actual people involved. Thirdly, we're not going to let this rest until justice is served.
    Justice, injustice, what are you, 12? The media impact of this event has gone down to zero, nobody cares anymore. Besides, what if investigation points at the side which is not supposed to be "bad guys" according to mass media narrative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Besides, what if investigation points at the side which is not supposed to be "bad guys" according to mass media narrative?
    It won't because Ukrainians were part of "investigation" and it was lead by NATO countries, which started all that mess by trying to put their puppet in charge, which they successfully did. It wasn't an investigation, it was a frame job.

    As for punishing bad guys, why aren't people who decided to fly aircraft over war zone punished? They are as much to blame for it as whoever shot plane.

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    Novaya Gazeta... and stopped reading. Even less reliable than CNN.

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    Maybe it's proof, maybe not.

    I don't think anyone really has doubts about who shot that plane down anymore though.

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    Wrong! The post before him did! And it's also a Russian deflection! a double win!
    Technically that post didn't link Trump to it.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosotti View Post
    Your words are shit. The responsible will NOT pay. That plane should have NEVER been there, over that shit country, with shit people killing each other all over the place. If there's a war, you don't go near, stay the fuck out. That plane was fucked up by mistake, it's like the good fucking Americans killing innocent Serbians or bombing the fucking Chinese Embassy and call it collateral damage. Has any of those fuckers ever "payed"? NO. And they will NEVER pay.

    The ones that should pay are the airlines and the idiots that made the flight path.
    They were not flying their designed flight path, they were deliberately diverted to that area by ukrainian air traffic control (the person working the position at the time went missing shortly after the incident and was never interviewed for any of the investigations).
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    Ignore this post. Misread what I was quoting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tojara View Post
    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Phhh... this is not actually "russian magazine" according to source of funds. That is suddenly coming outside of Russia. George Soros and Netherlands aint rly "Russians" (you can read this in wiki btw). Also this lolmagazine was catched on fakes many many times and got several warnings for "statements aimed at inciting social, racial and ethnic hatred". So we just see another paid article from western media with absolute similar "investigation". Anything bad happen in the world? This is PUTIN! Personally. Just curious when media will stop think about all customers like about dumb degenerates.

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