Texas police officer kills 15-year-old boy in car fleeing chaotic house party

[Felya]

In reality the cop saw a car that was refusing orders to stop racing at cops fleeing the scene where gunshots were reported coming from and heard. He wasnt a wizard and didnt know they wernt drunk, didnt know that they didnt fire the shots. All they saw was the car refusing orders to stop racing at cops.

Racing backwards... then voluntarily pulled over a block later, which I assume meant they went forward, while racing backwards. Yes, he wasn't a wizard, so shooting someone in a way that wouldn't just deter them, but kill the passenger, wasn't something he should have done. Knowing they were drunk and seeming to ram cop cars backwards, to end someone's life, would make him a wizard.

Dont worry the reachers here will claim the cop should have been psychic and known everyones life story in the car and curved the bullet to hit a crankshaft in the engine and stopped the car with no damage to anyone.

Yeah, I'm sure reachers will talk about how the cop was psychic, to know that a car moving backwards, that never ended up hitting anything, was going to ram police cars. It's a mater of psychic powers and not training. Nope, cannot be an issue with training... must be dealing with Xmen here...

[Zeta333]

COPS ARENT ALLOWED TO STOP MOVING CARS USING GUNFIRE. LIKE ITS LITERALLY WHAT THEY TEACH US IN TRAINING. You dont shoot a moving vehicle unless the vehicle is the source of gun fire. Its more dangerous to actually shoot at a car then let them flee. Notice how when a car chase happen, nobody opens fire unless the car is stopped? If the driver is about to hit someone, killing them wont actually stop the car either. Hell if there was no intent to even hit anyone, killing them might actually make hit them someone when the dead person lose control of the car.

If its against department SOP then he should be punished. But untill i hear a department rep saying that they shouldnt do that.... We are largely missing alot of information here and if it was against regs im sure there would be a police rep speaking to that fact rather fast wouldnt you?

[Gorsameth]

A car, that can be used to ram into people to kill them (as evidenced by several recent terrorist attacks world wide), comes barreling toward a cop. He warns them to stop, and the car's driver acknowledges he knew it was a cop yet fails to stop. So it's a dead cop, or a dead criminal that may hurt others after killing the cop. Let's forget that a car was going backwards down a street at a higher then normal speed too. Cops can, and should, preserve their own safety.

People like you, Grimjinx, should be made to go on ride-alongs to see how fast situations turn deadly. Dumbest person on the internet award goes to...

its amazing how US police always manage to find themselves in these situations where its "me or them". Its almost as if no one taught them how to remain safe and avoid "life or death" situations.

In no other country in the world would a noise complaint from a house party evolve into a firefight.

[Azadina]

When a bullet hits somthing between its intended target sometimes its path changes. Unless you think the cops was just aiming at the passengers head of a moving vehicle for no reason. Also sorry im triggered by blanket stupidity as is ussually shown whenever a cop is involved in a shooting.

Yes, you can't stand having police follow reasonable guidelines. You want them to have execution powers at whim. Which law did the passenger break, to deserve immediate death sentence?

[Zeta333]

Racing backwards... then voluntarily pulled over a block later, which I assume meant they went forward, while racing backwards. Yes, he wasn't a wizard, so shooting someone in a way that wouldn't just deter them, but kill the passenger, wasn't something he should have done. Knowing they were drunk and seeming to ram cop cars backwards, to end someone's life, would make him a wizard.



Yeah, I'm sure reachers will talk about how the cop was psychic, to know that a car moving backwards, that never ended up hitting anything, was going to ram police cars. It's a mater of psychic powers and not training. Nope, cannot be an issue with training... must be dealing with Xmen here...

So your saying they should have seen the future ? And are you claiming someone backing up cant kill a person?

[Ivanstone]

The car was trying to break a police line and advancing on cops. They ordered them to stop, they didnt.
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Citation please. You are the only person saying that they were ordered to stop. I've not read that in any article yet.

[Spicymemer]

Why are people defending those who actively break the law.

1. Driving while intoxicated
2. Driving without a license
3. Reckless driving
4. Resisting arrest

[Zeta333]

its amazing how US police always manage to find themselves in these situations where its "me or them". Its almost as if no one taught them how to remain safe and avoid "life or death" situations.

In no other country in the world would a noise complaint from a house party evolve into a firefight.

in other countries people do what the fuck the cops tell them to.

[Felya]

So we're just ignoring that shooting at the car did indeed stop the car?

It didn't stop the car. They pulled over after, assuming they used drift stile tact like in the movies, to then race forward a block to stop, because their passenger was dead... I'm sure he appeared at a nearby hospital, stole a random car and then returns to finish his sitting in a car. It's grand theft auto 7, house party edition...

[Krigaren]

No officers were wounded in the violent encounter.

What a shock.

[minteK917]

So we're just ignoring that shooting at the car did indeed stop the car?

Because they hit someone else then the driver. The driver would be dead with the feet on the pedal and lose control of the car depending on his speed. Cops dont shoot at car to stop them. Unless texas cop have the worse training ever, its not how you make an effective blockade. Its how you make random death.

[Zeta333]

Yes, you can't stand having police follow reasonable guidelines. You want them to have execution powers at whim. Which law did the passenger break, to deserve immediate death sentence?

again with the term execution. Go learn what a fucking execution is, you people clearly have your heads in the clouds and dont seem to understand what it is.

[Cûr]

But we still don't know what actually happened. Some unknown events, and an unspecified altercation. I'm not going to judge anyone until I see all the facts.

Certain types of people don't need all the facts to make their decisions. You know that.

[minteK917]

Why are people defending those who actively break the law.

1. Driving while intoxicated
2. Driving without a license
3. Reckless driving
4. Resisting arrest

They did none of those thing. They face no charges btw.

[Zantos]

just trying to get away.

And this is why they got shot. You don't try to run away from the police. Especially when you are in a car, going Towards them.

The cop shot into a car hoping to get it to stop moving. The teen should have Immediately Stopped the car, not gun it towards a police officer. Its a shame that it happened, but with what we know, it was the only reason they didn't continue Towards the officer.

[Azadina]

again with the term execution. Go learn what a fucking execution is, you people clearly have your heads in the clouds and dont seem to understand what it is.

Again with evading the question.

[Mosotti]

In no other country in the world would a noise complaint from a house party evolve into a firefight.

This was not a noise complaint, it was GUNSHOTS complaint. Also please list all the other countries where there are 300+ million firearms in the hands of the people.

[Zantos]

They did none of those thing. They face no charges btw.

Ok, number 1 and 2 are speculation. Number 4 should be changed to fleeing. They did number 3.

[P for Pancetta]

Hes not a gun nut, he didnt know they were unarmed. They were ignoring police orders, they were advancing a vehicle on other cops when ordered to stop, they were Fleeing the scene of gunshots. Everything here stands against them.

And you people need to stop using the term execution for anything you dont like, you clearly dont have a fucking clue what an execution is. So keep throwing the term around like you have an idea what it means.

Everything here stands in FAVOR of them. These people were trying to get away and were stopped by the police, they got out of their car and are faced with a police officer pointing a gun at them. They hear gunshots being fired and flee into the car. And to be fair it's not at all unreasonable to flee from the police these days when hearing gunshots, It might just be another incompetent fool who's trigger happy after all. After getting into the car and while fleeing away the officer opened fire upon the car and shot a passenger in the head, not the driver a passenger. The officer clearly couldn't make a clean shot at the driver and thus shouldn't. Even if he could he shouldn't have. Only after actually getting away from the cops they noticed their dead friend. This means the car wasn't used or ever intended to be used as a ram. And as no police officers were harmed or injured in this incident, I think its safe to assume that it was never their intention.

Secondly I can not even begin to conceive how its possible for a trained police officer standing near a car with unarmed people and gunshots firing of not figuring out where the fuck the sound is actually coming from. Even if he couldn't figure out where it came fro he should have know at that point it didn't come from the car.

[Gorsameth]

in other countries people do what the fuck the cops tell them to.

Hahahahahahaah
oh boy you must not get out much.

The difference is that the rest of the world trains their police properly and doesn't throw them full of PTSD ex-soldiers who think they are still in a warzone.
Heck the standard for the use of lethal force by a soldier in Iraq is lower then a police officer on the streets of the US. As per soldiers who have done both.