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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Shigenari View Post
    You see I'm not an awful person, and I basically just treat people like people. As a result, I don't feel any of these feeling that you feel, because other cultures don't terrify me like they do you. I don't feel that there's a genocide because I'm not protective of my own race, because it's a totally pointless construct for racists and assholes to hang their hats on.

    Seriously you're so scared though. Chill out a bit man. Fuck.
    It's like getting really mad that there aren't any Visigoths around anymore, when all that happened to them was that they merged with a bunch of other groups of people to become Spaniards.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    I actually believe Macron will win, not LePen.
    Very likely, but the forces that drove Le Pen to this surge won't evaporate overnight.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    I actually believe Macron will win, not LePen.
    Hopefully. Unfortunately, Le Pens followers are fanatics, and you can believe her base is going to vote completely, while the other parties followers even are tired of going to vote. Add to that the fact Putin is helping with as much propaganda as he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niibek View Post
    Very likely, but the forces that drove Le Pen to this surge won't evaporate overnight.
    No of course not. That's a problem for the coming years, as younger generations tend to gravitate toward conservative ideologies. It feels worse today as the pendulum swung too far on one side, but I don't think France is ready for LePen - nor do I wish it upon them. Perhaps a more moderate right-leaning party can take over at the next election. That would be, by all means, the best outcome for France. I don't see a left-leaning party in power for the next few years, perhaps even decade. It's saddening but it's the reality of our world right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Hopefully. Unfortunately, Le Pens followers are fanatics, and you can believe her base is going to vote completely, while the other parties followers even are tired of going to vote. Add to that the fact Putin is helping with as much propaganda as he can.
    I hope the double precedence made by Brexit and Trump will raise the alarm enough for people to engage in the most basic right in a democratic society.
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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Shigenari View Post
    No, it's not a genocide because it's not intentional. That's just how things have always been.

    You see I'm not an awful person, and I basically just treat people like people. As a result, I don't feel any of these feeling that you feel, because other cultures don't terrify me like they do you. I don't feel that there's a genocide because I'm not protective of my own race, because it's a totally pointless construct for racists and assholes to hang their hats on.

    Seriously you're so scared though. Chill out a bit man. Fuck.
    The only reason you are allowed to say that you want your culture to become extinct is because said culture is *better* than most of the world.


    You would be lashed or beheaded if you did the same somewhere else. Moral relativism is garbage.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Yes, because 14 year olds really know a lot about national policy.
    They will sure as fuck be the ones paying for it. The markets will lose it.

  7. #87
    They will have their chance to vote (not sure what the voting age in France is) and if they are the majority within their age group, then they are the future.
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Liberals are the right wingers.

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    He provided no source for his claim.
    You're right, it wasn't specifically rapes, which have increased substantially as well however, but it was all sexual crimes.

    https://acidmuncher.wordpress.com/20...tirely-honest/ have fun.

    You people love seeing countries go to shit, right? Well, no wonder, considering you want to destroy the concept of states entirely. I wonder what happened to make socialists dismiss religion at first, then suddenly become best buddies with every islamist out there. Wait, you don't need to answer, intersectional feminism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    No of course not. That's a problem for the coming years, as younger generations tend to gravitate toward conservative ideologies. It feels worse today as the pendulum swung too far on one side, but I don't think France is ready for LePen - nor do I wish it upon them. Perhaps a more moderate right-leaning party can take over at the next election. That would be, by all means, the best outcome for France. I don't see a left-leaning party in power for the next few years, perhaps even decade. It's saddening but it's the reality of our world right now.



    I hope the double precedence made by Brexit and Trump will raise the alarm enough for people to engage in the most basic right in a democratic society.
    Moderate right (Macron is moderate right, he's the perfect example of a neoliberal, just saying) just means the same crap, more pointless neoliberalism that wants to essentially kill everything the west ever achieved just so they can get their dream of huge influxes of poor immigrants that will work for free, so everyone eventually works for nothing again (except the ultra rich neoliberal elite).
    Last edited by Fojos; 2017-05-02 at 05:10 PM.

  9. #89
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    Young people caring about their country's future, their culture and traditions, and yet people can easily twist it into racism. What a wonderful world we live in.

    I'm proud that the young are doing what the old cannot understand, they are trying to save Europe from cultural suicide.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post

    It's refreshing, but also sad that young people care about their future yet are ignored by old elitist neo-liberal parties.
    Sorry but a kid saying "Whatever is happening in France cannot carry on" is just a kid parroting what his parents are saying. It's just that kids parents happen to be bigots who are supporting a bigot leader with some charisma. Of course its not surprising that you think its refreshing judging by your posts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    Moderate right (Macron is moderate right, he's the perfect example of a neoliberal, just saying) just means the same crap, more pointless neoliberalism that wants to essentially kill everything the west ever achieved just so they can get their dream of huge influxes of poor immigrants that will work for free, so everyone eventually works for nothing again.
    Actually Macron is center. Well, his party is. He consider himself a socialist.
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  12. #92
    This just in, kids are morons.

    Yes they're young, yes they're the future, and yes their opinion will almost certainly change in the next 10 years. And that's why they're ignored.
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  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    Actually Macron is center. Well, his party is. He consider himself a socialist.
    What he says is not relevant. He's neoliberal (a real socialist would not be the candidate who has absolute love for the EU, to begin with). Called moderate right but in reality in some ways (economic and social) they're the most right of all.

    The European Union has been full of neoliberals since the 80s, spearheaded by Reagan and Thatcher.
    Last edited by Fojos; 2017-05-02 at 05:15 PM.

  14. #94
    I am a Culturalist. If a Culture has values to hurt innocents, take away their rights, and put a gender above another, then those parts of a culture needs to be wiped out.
    Bad Cultural traits keep Humanity down. We're like a tree of interwoven traditions and cultures. Together we make humanity. Bad cultures are like a cancer on this tree.

    You can either cure the cancer, which is what happened to most Western cultures once securalism and humanism appeared. Or you can purge this culture by ensuring the children aren't taught it, and that it dies with their generation.

    It is inherently wrong to bring race or ethnicity into this. A white blue eyed ISIS warrior is as bad as a tanned brown eyed one. It's the culture that counts, races and ethnicities are all equal.

  15. #95
    the western world is moving ideologically to the right
    this is how europeans will save themselves from oblivion

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by truckboattruck View Post
    the western world moves ideologically to the right
    this is how europeans will save themselves from oblivion
    The Right often turns into supremacist ethiniticism or racism. If that happens the only thing we're doing is hastening our Oblivion by wiping out all our progress. No, we need to embrace Culturalism, and take the necessary means to wipe out the bad cultural traits threatening our countries.

    Socialism used to be our greatest ally in this fight, and now it has turned into an enemy. Socialism used to despise and to fight religions and their discrimination. Suddenly they're defending Islamists all over. If we can restore Socialism to it's roots, we'd have the perfect vehicle to usher in a revolution of Culturalism.
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  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
    The Right often turns into supremacist ethiniticism or racism. If that happens the only thing we're doing is hastening our Oblivion by wiping out all our progress. No, we need to embrace Culturalism, and take the necessary means to wipe out the bad cultural traits threatening our countries.
    doesnt matter why you dont like it, its happening
    where or not you wish to acknowledge race is irrelevant

    and its 100% preferable to communism

  18. #98
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    I want to add that Le Pen is literally the same shit we already had in the early 20th century in europe. Just with another face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fojos View Post
    What he says is not relevant. He's neoliberal (a real socialist would not be the candidate who has absolute love for the EU, to begin with). Called moderate right but in reality in some ways (economic and social) they're the most right of all.

    The European Union has been full of neoliberals since the 80s, spearheaded by Reagan and Thatcher.
    According to a french analyst company, he has roughly 40% of his ideas as his own, while borrowing 40% from Hollande (who is far-left), 20% from Fillion (moderate-right), 20% from Benoît Hamon (socialist party)*.

    He's literally merging ideas from the right and the left together. There hasn't been a party this close to the center in my adult life in France. That's quite incredible, but that's also why he may win over LePen -- Because he's not an arse who seeks to shut down everyone on the right, or exclude everyone on the left.

    *Some ideas overlap. I've also rounded some percentage, so it's higher than the real numbers, but the real numbers are also higher than 100%. It's normal, it's not me being retarded with maths, it's just overlapping policies between parties. The real numbers are 41%, 37%, 21% and 19%. If you know french, the wiki page is really interesting (and clean of trolls): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron#Position
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
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