The wall

[Darkeon]

Good as a metaphor - worth being built and protected-, meh and with serious complications as a real thing.

That's about the extent of my opinion on it.

[PC2]

Yes, Trump delivers indeed. Not sure what, but .. something.

He is making it harder for Democrats to get their nanny state. He is delivering.

[Stormspark]

I do wonder what the border looks like in Trumps mind...

[Enthusiastic Steward]

I do wonder what the border looks like in Trumps mind...

A taped off stretch of desert with the sign "RESERVED FOR WALL"

[Deleted]

He is making it harder for Democrats to get their nanny state. He is delivering.

Yeah. A fence where he wanted to build a wall. A corporate government where he promised to help the forgotten. Bank managers and not factory jobs.

A military strike against syria where he promised to not mix into the conflict. Well, and a partnership with russia, whos leader probably currently thinks "Shit. SHIT! Never ever i should try a nationalist populist puppet anymore!"

Yeah. Delivering.

[PC2]

Yeah. A fence where he wanted to build a wall. A corporate government where he promised to help the forgotten. Bank managers and not factory jobs.

Yeah. Delivering.

He wants the USA to be more competitive than other countries, unlike Obama.

[Lenonis]

We already put up and maintain walls at the border. It's a standard part of border enforcement. Trump is merely referring to increased coverage.

The wall as Trump has campaigned and described and as his supporters visualize will never happen.

[Deleted]

He wants the USA to be more competitive than other countries, unlike Obama.

Yeah. Deliviering. By not cancelling NAFTA as he promised. More competetive by raising taxes for steel from germany, as american steel producers cant create quality steel at a competetive price.

Yeah, competetive.

[Noxx79]

He wants the USA to be more competitive than other countries, unlike Obama.

Is that why he's backed down from China as a currency manipulator, and Canada and Mexico with NAFTA?

[PC2]

The wall as Trump has campaigned and described and as his supporters visualize will never happen.

Ultimately we are trying to decrease illegal border crossings. In my opinion the goal shouldn't be one huge wall, but a holistic approach where walls are just 1 layer.

[Deleted]

As a side note:

Is 'competetive" the opposite to 'protectionistic'?

[Narwal]

So, I was listening to Trumps speech. He was discussing the budget and making the "positive" Republican points that Democrats didn't point out. One thing he mentioned was that "allocation for border security was increased, enough to support the down payment on a wall". I quoted that, but it's not exact. He then said, "Even though Democrats didn't point this out". He went on to say, the current wall/fences would be upgraded and fixed as a start.

So, it's an interesting thing. Basically, border security money was increased by billions of dollars. However, as a compromise, it wasn't "allocated" to a specific task. This allows Democrats to say, we did not approve money for a wall, while allowing Trump to say, we got funding for the wall in the budget.

[Nasukkin]

Meanwhile, along the US-Canada border...

[Edge-]

Meanwhile, along the US-Canada border...

That doesn't look anything like the privacy hedge I was told they were putting up : (

[PC2]

As a side note:

Is 'competetive" the opposite to 'protectionistic'?

I think competitiveness includes more general internal policy, like we could be more competitive by lowering the minimum wage. Protectionistic always relates to how we defend ourselves from other countries.

[Kalador]

Meanwhile, along the US-Canada border...

LOL

more like



American dream is so dead even refugee are fleeing the country...

[Donald Hellscream]

Come now, we all knew it was never gonna be a reality.

Sure he might be building a fence but thats a far cry from the wall he promised would be build on Mexico's bill.

[Ivanstone]

Ultimately we are trying to decrease illegal border crossings. In my opinion the goal shouldn't be one huge wall, but a holistic approach where walls are just 1 layer.

Is that why he wanted to cut the U.S. Coast Guard's budget by 12%?

If you're not familiar the Coast Guard currently stops more drugs and illegal immigrants than any other government agency.

[PC2]

American dream is so dead even refugee are fleeing the country...

Cool, they can go to Europe. That leaves more resources for current citizens.

[PC2]

Is that why he wanted to cut the U.S. Coast Guard's budget by 12%?

If you're not familiar the Coast Guard currently stops more drugs and illegal immigrants than any other government agency.

I hadn't heard him say that. But indeed that would be counter-productive to the goal of border security.