House GOP Passed Trumpcare on Thursday

[Jtbrig7390]

Something like this won't get snuck in. The democrats will scream bloody murder about it and publish it everywhere. I get the fear, but the dems see every bill that's voted on, even if they can't do anything about it. The GOP can't hide something in legislation. It would require the entire Dem party to forgo reading it, and not having any of their staffers or anyone look at it. That just doesn't happen.

We got Trump as president and a bunch of idiots just singed about costing 24 million people there insurance (and some there lives).

IMO I wouldn't be surprised if it does get put in and the entire dem party doesn't read it.

[Mgann-Morzz]

I can't wait for this to die in the senate (or in the house again if the Senate rewrites it drastically to be less draconian and the Freedom Caucus gets super buttmad) and then all the idiots who voted for this in swing districts to be punished horribly next year.

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Im also amazed at the Gall for Republicans to claim that Obamacare was RAMMED THROUGH.. when none of them have even had the time to fully read this bill and the CBO hasn't even scored it yet.

[Captain N]

So no, you've never lived in Chicago. Visiting doesn't count. I spend 6 months going to NYC for 4 days a week every week and I wouldn't claim to know what it's like to live there.

Here's the reality. A vast majority of Chicago is a great place to live with decent schooling options. A handful of neighborhoods (that, let's be honest, you'd never live in anyway) are awful.

You are trying to claim the entire city is just like those tiny areas. And that's just a flat out lie.

I extended an offer to him awhile back when he was on his Chicago is a Death Trap rhetoric in a previous thread to come visit Lakeview/Roscoe Village. Obviously it didn't go anywhere as the same rhetoric is back strong as it ever was. I'd challenge he's actually set foot within the city with that kind of absolute disgust for the city.

[Stormspark]

We got Trump as president and a bunch of idiots just singed about costing 24 million people there insurance (and some there lives).

IMO I wouldn't be surprised if it does get put in and the entire dem party doesn't read it.

Oh the dems will read it, but they won't be able to do anything about it.

[minteK917]

We heard the same thing before.

[Jtbrig7390]

Oh the dems will read it, but they won't be able to do anything about it.

Right.....

[Edge-]

Im also amazed at the Gall for Republicans to claim that Obamacare was RAMMED THROUGH.. when none of them have even had the time to fully read this bill and the CBO hasn't even scored it yet.

Nothing speaks to a parties confidence in their own bill like voting on it before it's been reviewed by the CBO or other outside non-partisan groups, or even released publicly. The GOP remains the party of invertebrates (spineless).

[alexw]

I can't wait for this to die in the senate (or in the house again if the Senate rewrites it drastically to be less draconian and the Freedom Caucus gets super buttmad) and then all the idiots who voted for this in swing districts to be punished horribly next year.

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Im also amazed at the Gall for Republicans to claim that Obamacare was RAMMED THROUGH.. when none of them have even had the time to fully read this bill and the CBO hasn't even scored it yet.

That's what happens when republicans create an American Taliban. They are just a party of extremists now.

[PosPosPos]

I voted for Clinton, but take the rest up with MVallas

Oh yes, the usual self-proclaimed independent or democrat, but somehow has an entire post history full of pro-Trump propaganda and how Republicans can do no wrong.

Some people somehow believe that as long as they can lie to themselves about something, it means everyone else can't tell it's pure bullshit.

[Skulltaker]

Theoretically, if someone was to lose their life as a direct consequence of losing their health care due to this going to congress, would their families be able to sue? I'm not familiar with the US legal system, but from an outsiders point of view it looks as if you can sue over basically anything.

[baskev]

a sad sad day.
Was obama care perfect nope....but it was not bad....otherwise it would have imploded a long time ago.

Any idiot who thinks this is a good move is ....a idiot.

Politicians are really the low life's of the world right now...
think the next world "war" will be the people vs politicians...

[Lenonis]

You're probably right, but at this point the republican party are basically cartoon villians. They will try to change the rules and force it through anyway. I can see it now. The Personal Responsibility Act or something that sounds appealing to those uneducated rural people.

Oh, I don't doubt they'll try! Plus even if somehow they did pass something like that it would never survive the senate.

[baskev]

Right.....

He is right...they will not be able to do anything against it... senate just do not use the normal 60 person rule...but again go with majority vote....and they will do this with any bill now....RIP america....was nice to know it

[Soeroah]

It's better to cull the herd from the weak than to let them drag everyone else down with them. Nature is metal like that.

[Infracted]

Hey, good idea.

First step to determining the fittest is to remove money from the equation and see who can use their own, personal skills to survive from a fresh slate.

Something tells me the majority of people who can afford high level insurance wouldn't last long without their money.

[Lenonis]

Theoretically, if someone was to lose their life as a direct consequence of losing their health care due to this going to congress, would their families be able to sue? I'm not familiar with the US legal system, but from an outsiders point of view it looks as if you can sue over basically anything.

They could sue -- but it would never stand up in court. I'm not familiar enough with the legal system to give you the exact legalese but I'm guessing it is somewhere along the lines that you'd have to prove that Congresses actions were directly responsible for the death -- and that would never hold since the accident, injury, or illness is what killed the person, not congress.

Plus it's a really high bar to hold politicians personally responsible for the laws they pass. In fact I don't know if it's ever happened before.

[DarkTZeratul]

Nothing speaks to a parties confidence in their own bill like voting on it before it's been reviewed by the CBO or other outside non-partisan groups, or even released publicly.

Not to mention exempting themselves from its effects.

[Breccia]

A couple of friends of mine have a one year old. She will be two in October. I keep telling them to kick her out of the house for being so lazy. Ovee a year and she hasn't held a job, she doesn't help around the house, and she just eats, cres, and poops all day. Slacker!

Hey! When we say "no anecdotal evidence" that also means fictional sarcastic anecdotal evidence! You're going to have to dig up a study for all the lazy pooping babies!

[KrazyK923]

Luckily in Illinois I won't lose my coverage even if this does passes, but I hope everyone who lives in a southern state (Where Obamacare is wildly popular if you don't mention the name---which is another laughable point that shouldn't even be real) feels the effect of this. Congratulations, you voted against your own interests again by a snake oil salesman.

I'll be surprised if this gets through the Senate. They didn't seem to have an actual plan to do that before passing.

[Breccia]

but again go with majority vote

They can't.

The implications of this bill enact the Byrd rule. They can't "go nuclear' on this one.

[Jtbrig7390]

He is right...

Ya I wasn't disagreeing