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[Flavor]

Hey so Im looking at ordering and building my new PC (first time) in the next 2 weeks and I just wanted to run my parts list here to see what some more experienced people think. Im looking to run WoW plus other random games at 1080p 60 fps at highish settings for the most part.

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D6qb6X) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D6qb6X/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/72w...-yd1400bbaebox) | $164.88 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tsf...50m-gaming-pro) | $78.88 @ OutletPC
**Memory** | [G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/88r...f42400c15s8gis) | $54.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW...drive-wd10ezex) | $47.45 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVW...60-gaming-x-6g) | $259.99 @ Amazon
**Case** | [Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cTQ...sair-case-200r) | $56.99 @ Amazon
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6...ly-cp9020101na) | $29.99 @ Newegg
**Optical Drive** | [Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2v9...rw24b1stblkbas) | $17.79 @ OutletPC
**Monitor** | [Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xbK...monitor-vp228h) | $109.00 @ Best Buy
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $839.96
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$819.96**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-05-06 12:10 EDT-0400 |

Any feedback is appreciated. Im looking to keep my budget to around 800-900 if I can

[MrPaladinGuy]

Go for 2 sticks of 4GB so you can dual channel it with a dual channel kit, although I'm not even sure if that matters anymore for games, especially at DDR4 speeds.

[ovm33]

I would try to fit in a SSD if you can. Even a small one of 120Gb will make your system feel much better.

Something like:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Sandisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $54.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 12:50 EDT-0400

Not sure if you really need the optical drive these days. But it's only 17 bucks so... /shrug.

[Thunderball]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($122.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.14 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.79 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $910.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 14:20 EDT-0400

R5 1400 is not worth it, but you have to make some sacrifices here to get R5 1600. I would get rid of an optical drive and get a better case: something like NZXT S340 or Phanteks P400. If you're adamant about your budget goals you can go somewhat lower with i5 7500 and a H110M board without sacrificing much (or at all) gaming performance, but it will require a BIOS update most likely.

[Flavor]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($122.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.14 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.79 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $910.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 14:20 EDT-0400

R5 1400 is not worth it, but you have to make some sacrifices here to get R5 1600. I would get rid of an optical drive and get a better case: something like NZXT S340 or Phanteks P400. If you're adamant about your budget goals you can go somewhat lower with i5 7500 and a H110M board without sacrificing much (or at all) gaming performance, but it will require a BIOS update most likely.

So a few questions here. I'm all for the 1600 I was debating the 1400 to put a bit more into the gpu. Am I sacrificing anything going with the 3gb 1060 as opposed to the 6gb? Also how much does the upgraded ram help?

[Tomservo]

So a few questions here. I'm all for the 1600 I was debating the 1400 to put a bit more into the gpu. Am I sacrificing anything going with the 3gb 1060 as opposed to the 6gb? Also how much does the upgraded ram help?

The 3gb 1060 is a cut down 1060 6gb chip. It's not just less VRAM.

[Flavor]

The 3gb 1060 is a cut down 1060 6gb chip. It's not just less VRAM.

So is it not worth downgrading then?

[Deleted]

if WoW is ur prio (raiding 20 man hcs) u might regret not getting intel, also overall is better for gaming, for the rest ryzen is better

[Thunderball]

So a few questions here. I'm all for the 1600 I was debating the 1400 to put a bit more into the gpu. Am I sacrificing anything going with the 3gb 1060 as opposed to the 6gb? Also how much does the upgraded ram help?

There is no debate of R5 1400 vs R5 1600, there is a debate of i5 7500 vs R5 1600. R5 1400 is not worth it if you can afford an i5 for gaming. Yes, you're sacrificing CUDA cores and VRAM, but for WoW it isnt a big issue. Fast RAM is a must a Ryzen system due to how AMD's memory controllers work.

Below is an Intel build that fits your budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.66 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($202.39 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.89 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.79 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $901.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 18:36 EDT-0400

[Flavor]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2T8b6X
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2T8b6X/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($122.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $905.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 19:24 EDT-0400

So will this one here be able to do what I want it to do? Also would I need a certain board to allow OCing the CPU?

[ovm33]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2T8b6X
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2T8b6X/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($122.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $905.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 19:24 EDT-0400

So will this one here be able to do what I want it to do? Also would I need a certain board to allow OCing the CPU?

That will be a very competent gaming rig that will serve you well. All AM4 boards can overclock so don't worry about that.

[Fascinate]

Here is a similar build with better quality parts for the same money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GT OC Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer - G246HLAbd 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $907.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 20:05 EDT-0400

No mail in rebates figured in. (they are a pain to deal with)

Also if you can swing another 40 dollars, i suggest this monitor:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-798-_-Product

75hz refresh rate and 1ms response times really makes a difference.

[Kagthul]

.... the RX 570 would be a better GPU choice than the 3GB 1060, and cheaper. Or you could get a 4GB 580, which is even better and only slightly more expensive.

[Fascinate]

Rx 570 is not a better choice than the 1060 3gb, 1060 is faster in almost every game i have seen tested. Not to mention power consumption and that the OP plays WoW.

And its only cheaper by 10 bucks, not worth.

[Kagthul]

Rx 570 is not a better choice than the 1060 3gb, 1060 is faster in almost every game i have seen tested.

Might want to get your eyes checked, then.

as an example:

http://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-r...reviews?page=4

Straight up beats a full-fat 6GB 1060 at 1080p in most of the tests.

Not to mention power consumption

Are we building a laptop? The extra 2.50$ of electricity he might spend over the life of the card if he left the computer on 24/7 is irrelevant.

and that the OP plays WoW.

Your point is? This gets trumpeted a lot - "nVidia is better at WoW!"

... which is utterly meaningless since any card past an RX 560 or 1050Ti will be able to max out all of WoW's GPU-bound settings (and no, SSAA/Render Scale does not count) at 1080p anyway. You're going to be CPU bound before you're GPU bound in WoW if you spent more than 160$ on your GPU.

And its only cheaper by 10 bucks, not worth.

On sale several places for 149$.

There are also RX 580s for around 189$.

It's as-good-as the GTX 1060 6GB, costs less than the 1060 6GB, AND the 3GB (which it is better than).

The GTX 1060 is basically a dead card right now. There's no reason to recommend it, in either flavor, for anything. The RX 580 beats it, and is cheaper. The 570 equals or beats it, or is barely slower (and still above 60fps at 1080p, and lets face it, in this budget range you're not rocking a 144hz 1440p monitor - you're rollilng with 1080p/60) and is WAY cheaper.

There's literally no reason to buy a 1060, unless you just have to have Team Green.

[Fascinate]

Dude ive watched so many rx 5xx vs 1060 videos linking me one that favors your viewpoint is not gonna help you here. I know how they perform, i know the pricing (yours is way off) and i know the power consumption.

For me, unless you find a 570 on an incredible deal i will recommend 1060 all day long. Nvidia takes wins in most of the popular games and along with power consumption (this isnt just for your bill, this translates to lower fan speeds and less heat in your room) that is why i recommend nvidia cards in general.

Cheapest rx 570 available:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y3RT952/?tag=pcpapi-20

Cheapest 1060 3gb:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KUCL25Y/?tag=pcpapi-20

10 dollar premium is worth what you gain with nvidia, imo. Now if it was 20 or more, that is when id start to recommend looking toward AMD.

And fancy that, with MIR the 1060 is actually 10 bucks cheaper.

[Lathais]

Dude ive watched so many rx 5xx vs 1060 videos linking me one that favors your viewpoint is not gonna help you here. I know how they perform, i know the pricing (yours is way off) and i know the power consumption.

For me, unless you find a 570 on an incredible deal i will recommend 1060 all day long. Nvidia takes wins in most of the popular games and along with power consumption (this isnt just for your bill, this translates to lower fan speeds and less heat in your room) that is why i recommend nvidia cards in general.

Cheapest rx 570 available:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y3RT952/?tag=pcpapi-20

Cheapest 1060 3gb:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KUCL25Y/?tag=pcpapi-20

10 dollar premium is worth what you gain with nvidia, imo. Now if it was 20 or more, that is when id start to recommend looking toward AMD.

And fancy that, with MIR the 1060 is actually 10 bucks cheaper.

Averaged across all the games they tested, the 570 and a 1060 3gb are nearly identical:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/..._Pulse/30.html

Cheapest 570:
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...A-RX57GA4&c=CJ
168.99

Cheapest 1060 3gb:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KUCL25Y/?tag=pcpapi-20
179.99

So not sure where you get your info from. Videos you have watched? From who? Care to link your sources. We have linked to reputable sources and all you have is your word from random videos you have watched. Fact is, the two perform nearly identically and the 570 is cheaper. In WoW, they are both so far above the minimum needed to max the game, that you can't give nvidia an edge. if we were comparing a 750ti to a 260x you may have a point, but it isn't 2014 anymore.

This is really a case of Green vs Red. Both cards are a solid choice and it really depends on which brand you prefer.

[Vertigo X]

Averaged across all the games they tested, the 570 and a 1060 3gb are nearly identical:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/..._Pulse/30.html

This is from the same article that you just linked:
"Still, the RX 570 will have a tough time facing the NVIDIA GTX 1060 3 GB, which is still a little bit faster, comes at similar pricing, but with much better power efficiency, which is often reflected in its extremely low noise output. The Sapphire RX 570 Pulse gets close, but can't beat it."

[Lathais]

This is from the same article that you just linked:
"Still, the RX 570 will have a tough time facing the NVIDIA GTX 1060 3 GB, which is still a little bit faster, comes at similar pricing, but with much better power efficiency, which is often reflected in its extremely low noise output. The Sapphire RX 570 Pulse gets close, but can't beat it."

Yeah, I don't read their conclusions, I look at the numbers and draw my own conclusions. Almost all of these sites are paid schills and what they say will reflect that, so I look at the numbers because the numbers don't lie.

Fact is, the two perform so close you won't see the difference and the 570 is cheaper. As they say, the 1060 "is a little bit faster," so if your playing "FPS Counter E-Peen Competition" sure, the nVidia is a little faster. In the real world, you won't see or hear a difference.

[Vertigo X]

Yeah, I don't read their conclusions, I look at the numbers and draw my own conclusions. Almost all of these sites are paid schills and what they say will reflect that, so I look at the numbers because the numbers don't lie.

Fact is, the two perform so close you won't see the difference and the 570 is cheaper. As they say, the 1060 "is a little bit faster," so if your playing "FPS Counter E-Peen Competition" sure, the nVidia is a little faster. In the real world, you won't see or hear a difference.

It could be shills but from what I've read the general consensus is, like fascinate said, you get better performance per watt with the 1060 which does translate into less heat which means a quieter card. But I do agree as far as fps goes it won't be a noticeable difference. At the end of the day its 10 dollars though so like its already been said, depends whether you wanna swing team green or not.