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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Baked goods is how the gays spread their gayness.
    And here I thaught it was with music, shiny colors and disco balls

    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    makes who 40bil a year? you didnt answer shit lol. WHO MAKES THAT MONEY? that is revenue correct? what is the profit? details fool, details. this is why people dismiss you and your position so easily, you dont come correct.
    As my signature shows, sadly the most stupid of us can't even ask google the most basic thing.
    So here's your answer : CoreCivic

    You're welcome, basic internet research is easy to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    Are we pretending like the DEA wasn't raiding week places in legal states under Obama? Or that week places still couldn't deposit their revenue into banks under Obama?

    Let's be honest, this is nothing new. The war on drugs never left.
    Ask yourself why the DEA was raiding places with legal weed. I'll give you a hint: exporting to states that haven't legalized it.

    As for the banking issue, keep up with the times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    i asked how much money they make and you did not answer. why is that? why is it so hard to get answers from people that preach?

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    because there isnt 1000 other ways to make money off that same population. this is one of the stupidest arguments there currently is. it has no basis in logic or fact.
    Are you serious? You have to be some sort of gimmick account. You might be the only person on earth unaware that prison management is a massive business in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Ask yourself why the DEA was raiding places with legal weed. I'll give you a hint: exporting to states that haven't legalized it.

    As for the banking issue, keep up with the times.
    “Marijuana trafficking is illegal under federal law, and it’s illegal for banks to deal with marijuana sale proceeds under federal law. Only Congress can change these laws. The administration can’t change the law with a memo,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement.

    are you sure that went thru? cause from what i thought it did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    and wow just reading that is making me throw up. profits from 1980 to 1994 went up you say? you mean in companies like IBM and MICROSOFT? really? wow and they somehow equate that to the prison population and not computers? how stupid can you be to read dribble written by somebody like this? stick to the facts. FACTS.

    facts alone would be enough to convince somebody like me that private companies should not be able to contract prison population for profit in any way. but no, they have to spice it up with bullshit and lies souring the whole thing. what else are they (the writers) dishonest about?

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    makes who 40bil a year? you didnt answer shit lol. WHO MAKES THAT MONEY? that is revenue correct? what is the profit? details fool, details. this is why people dismiss you and your position so easily, you dont come correct.
    CoreCivic, GEO Group, Management & Training Corporation. Those are 3 big ones. CoreCivic had profits of 230million on revenues of 2 billion last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathquoi View Post
    Are you serious? You have to be some sort of gimmick account. You might be the only person on earth unaware that prison management is a massive business in the US.
    i hear this but when asking to see the evidence i dont get anything concrete. why is it so hard to produce? he linked something saying there is 100 private prisons with 62k prisoners. far cry from private prisons for profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    and wow just reading that is making me throw up. profits from 1980 to 1994 went up you say? you mean in companies like IBM and MICROSOFT? really? wow and they somehow equate that to the prison population and not computers? how stupid can you be to read dribble written by somebody like this? stick to the facts. FACTS.

    facts alone would be enough to convince somebody like me that private companies should not be able to contract prison population for profit in any way. but no, they have to spice it up with bullshit and lies souring the whole thing. what else are they (the writers) dishonest about?
    I think the only thing we confirmed with your post is you in fact are in the under an inch club. As in.. like.. your dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathquoi View Post
    CoreCivic, GEO Group, Management & Training Corporation. Those are 3 big ones. CoreCivic had profits of 230million on revenues of 2 billion last year.
    The company’s revenue in 2012 exceeded $1.7 billion.[4] By 2015, its contracts with federal correctional and detention authorities generated up to 51% of its revenues. It operated 22 federal facilities with the capacity for 25,851 prisoners.[5] By 2016, Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) along with Geo Group were running "more than 170 prisons and detention centres". CCA's revenues in 2015 were $1.79bn.[6]

    ok that does help. so would this all be better if a private company was not paid to house inmates? (aka government owned)

    also how do private companies contract prison workers for labor? is there any oversight to this? this is more of a problem to me than the private prison although i dont like that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    I think the only thing we confirmed with your post is you in fact are in the under an inch club. As in.. like.. your dick.
    sad, just sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    and wow just reading that is making me throw up. profits from 1980 to 1994 went up you say? you mean in companies like IBM and MICROSOFT? really? wow and they somehow equate that to the prison population and not computers? how stupid can you be to read dribble written by somebody like this? stick to the facts. FACTS.

    facts alone would be enough to convince somebody like me that private companies should not be able to contract prison population for profit in any way. but no, they have to spice it up with bullshit and lies souring the whole thing. what else are they (the writers) dishonest about?

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    makes who 40bil a year? you didnt answer shit lol. WHO MAKES THAT MONEY? that is revenue correct? what is the profit? details fool, details. this is why people dismiss you and your position so easily, you dont come correct.
    I don't know why the fuck I or anybody should even waste any time with you, but:
    https://thinkprogress.org/private-pr...2-497af10182c3
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoreCivic
    http://www1.salary.com/Damon-T-Hinin...CIVIC-INC.html
    http://www1.salary.com/George-C-Zole...GROUP-INC.html
    Small sample. Many more if you were capable of Google.

    Intelligent discussion flew out the window the moment you started posting.
    Last edited by King Shark; 2017-05-12 at 10:57 PM.
    9 out of 10 people agree that in a room full of 10 people one person will always disagree with the other 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Candy View Post
    I don't know why the fuck I or anybody should even waste any time with you, but:
    https://thinkprogress.org/private-pr...2-497af10182c3
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoreCivic
    http://www1.salary.com/Damon-T-Hinin...CIVIC-INC.html
    Small sample. Many more if you were capable of Google.

    Intelligent discussion flew out the window the moment you started posting.
    you slow af bro

    besides two of those three are just bullshit targeting the ceo for creating a successful company, doesn't help one bit. also the number of prisoners in these so called for profit prisons is not even 10% of the prison population. how can you justify calling the whole system for profit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    you slow af bro
    But no less right.
    9 out of 10 people agree that in a room full of 10 people one person will always disagree with the other 9.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    “Marijuana trafficking is illegal under federal law, and it’s illegal for banks to deal with marijuana sale proceeds under federal law. Only Congress can change these laws. The administration can’t change the law with a memo,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement.

    are you sure that went thru? cause from what i thought it did not.
    It was a directive to the justice department, not a bill. It effectively got voided when trump gained office. This whole thread is about the WoD being back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Candy View Post
    But no less right.
    right at what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    The company’s revenue in 2012 exceeded $1.7 billion.[4] By 2015, its contracts with federal correctional and detention authorities generated up to 51% of its revenues. It operated 22 federal facilities with the capacity for 25,851 prisoners.[5] By 2016, Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) along with Geo Group were running "more than 170 prisons and detention centres". CCA's revenues in 2015 were $1.79bn.[6]

    ok that does help. so would this all be better if a private company was not paid to house inmates? (aka government owned)

    also how do private companies contract prison workers for labor? is there any oversight to this? this is more of a problem to me than the private prison although i dont like that either.

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    sad, just sad
    The problem is that prison companies are motivated almost solely by profit. Look at the 10-K (annual report filed with the SEC) for CoreCivic, and you'll see that they identify relaxation of law enforcement as a risk to their business. In the past CoreCivic has been involved in some shady stuff, like getting involved in school drug sweeps. They are primarily concerned with two things, growing the prison population and spending as little as they can to house that population. Your point about oversight is a good one, but we all know that government oversight of private contractors is generally horrible. That's another subject, but really what it comes down to for me is that although the government can't and shouldn't do everything, where human lives are directly hanging in the balance, it's probably not a great idea to have it handled by companies whose chief concern is doing things cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathquoi View Post
    The problem is that prison companies are motivated almost solely by profit. Look at the 10-K (annual report filed with the SEC) for CoreCivic, and you'll see that they identify relaxation of law enforcement as a risk to their business. In the past CoreCivic has been involved in some shady stuff, like getting involved in school drug sweeps. They are primarily concerned with two things, growing the prison population and spending as little as they can to house that population. Your point about oversight is a good one, but we all know that government oversight of private contractors is generally horrible. That's another subject, but really what it comes down to for me is that although the government can't and shouldn't do everything, where human lives are directly hanging in the balance, it's probably not a great idea to have it handled by companies whose chief concern is doing things cheap.
    i agree. to me its like the healthcare issue. private companies should not make profit off life or death and trust me prison is some life or death shit. now the real question is how to stop it? maybe if people talked to others and presented proof with real points instead of attacking them and telling them they have an one inch penis we could get things done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    i agree. to me its like the healthcare issue. private companies should not make profit off life or death and trust me prison is some life or death shit. now the real question is how to stop it? maybe if people talked to others and presented proof with real points instead of attacking them and telling them they have an one inch penis we could get things done.
    As with so many things, the problem is that there are so many people who don't know about the issue. I agree that the way to go is education. The current iteration of the Republican Party has lost me, but Democrats are making the fatal mistake of circling the wagons and doubling down on their base rather than educating and winning the hearts and minds of the moderate and center right.
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    If at first you don't succeed, try, try, (and fail, fail, burning millions of dollars in taxpayer money and leaving us with the highest incarceration rate on the planet...) again.

    I'm really starting to wonder what's next, it seems like they've got a checklist of everything to do wrong and are going down the list. "Nuke China" is probably at the very bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    i agree. to me its like the healthcare issue. private companies should not make profit off life or death and trust me prison is some life or death shit. now the real question is how to stop it? maybe if people talked to others and presented proof with real points instead of attacking them and telling them they have an one inch penis we could get things done.
    Getting rid of for-profit prisons would be nice. The department of corrections had just made a resolution to do just that, but it got rescinded by sessions unfortunately.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Massive waste of resources for the American taxpayers. Just so they can likely give pharmaceutical companies a monopoly on the marijuana industry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Getting rid of for-profit prisons would be nice. The department of corrections had just made a resolution to do just that, but it got rescinded by sessions unfortunately.
    Guess we know who has been lining Sessions' pockets.

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