How snowflake millennials are INFURIATING their senior colleagues

[Asrialol]

Sooo.. Older generation are mad that the younger generation is better in every way possible. Sounds about right.

[DrMcNinja]

Good bait thread. I almost fell for it.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Older generations always found ways to be pissy about the younger ones.

[DrMcNinja]

I have a friend who owns a small marketing company and she is continually baffled by the entitled nature of fresh college graduates. While I think some of the phrasing could be rearranged, the point isn't entirely invalid.

Yet where I live, I see a trend which is the exact opposite of what you are describing.

Maybe part of it has to do with how colleges and so forth prepare their students for the real thing. Because boy, did we get a reality check faster than the speed of light shortly after entering college.

[Ealyssa]

You know your generation lost touch with reality when a simple starbucks is a "designer coffee" (WTF does that even mean ? ).

Time to learn using internet I guess.

[Felya]

You know your generation lost touch with reality when a simple starbucks is a "designer coffee" (WTF does that even mean ? ).

Time to learn using internet I guess.

What do you think it means, when someone defines a generation losing touch, because of what they call their coffee?

[namecraft]

someone hates (special) snowflakes, quick make a thread about it!

[PosPosPos]

An internship is extremely valuable... It gives you "relevant experience" which people constantly complain about not having. Its the same a residency for doctors and nurses, you cant expect to just walk on a job and make $100,000 a year out of college without putting in any effort, shits not just given to you... you need to get out there an take it.

By that standard, slavery is "extremely valuable" and "relevant" experience too.

You should totally ring up your boss and tell them you want to work for free.

[Jagscorpion]

Considering the wording of the subject I'm not surprised to see the content. I don't always agree with Adam Conover, but I thought this was a really good presentation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ

The original post was about as condescending as could be, and some of it was just plain weird, like the section on coffee or shakes. It sounded like the author just cherry-picked every stereotype he could find. If someone is new to a working environment I guess some of the points are helpful to remember, but I can't see anyone reading this who wouldn't get offended by the tone.

[PersephoneDankles]

An internship is extremely valuable... It gives you "relevant experience" which people constantly complain about not having. Its the same a residency for doctors and nurses, you cant expect to just walk on a job and make $100,000 a year out of college without putting in any effort, shits not just given to you... you need to get out there an take it.

The problem with that comparison, residents still draw a salary. Granted, it's not as high the money you make as an actual doctor, but $45k+ a year isn't bad.

An unpaid internship is exactly that, unpaid.

[oxymoronic]

By that standard, slavery is "extremely valuable" and "relevant" experience too.

You should totally ring up your boss and tell them you want to work for free.

just cause something is bad doesnt mean it cant be "extremely valuable" and "relevant". so yes slavery COULD teach a person "extremely valuable" and "relevant" experience. think with your brain not your heart.

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This makes me embarrassed to be a boomer. What a bunch of self serving arrogant tripe. I work with quite a few younger people, and I am not sure where the hatred is coming from. The millennials I work with are hard working and are quite good at thinking on their feet, take on additional responsibilities when needed, and are pretty much model employees.

And although this article seems to be under the assumption that millennials take far more and longer breaks than others - I just have not seen that. Not even in the least.

anecdotal evidence is not the best and for some reason i highly doubt you are a baby boomer. your 1st job, how much did you make per hour?

[the game]

You know your generation lost touch with reality when a simple starbucks is a "designer coffee" (WTF does that even mean ? ).

Time to learn using internet I guess.

The article was written by a millenial. I agree they're out of touch with reality.

[Louisa Bannon]

I read the advice, it's pure trash. The era of working up through a company is long, long, long gone. So is "paying your dues." Leap from opportunity to opportunity as quickly as you can, if the job is truly a good one, stay a while.

Here's my advice:

* Be born into a wealthy family.
* If you can't be born rich, network well with people that are rich.
* If you can't do either of those, work really hard early in life, save up and don't mount too much debt (or any really).
* Unless an education is economically feasible for you, don't worry too much about school. Do not rack up school debt just to be a well educated barrista.
* Leverage money to work for you. If you keep selling your labor as the only means of making money, you've lost the race already.
* Think like a slave, live like a slave. So do the opposite of that.

[Soeroah]

Oh no, none of this advice applies to me. My entire understanding of generational stereotypes is thrown into disarray.

[Deleted]

OP I'm just going to say right now, at my last job I was a supervisor for 5~ years. I'm technically a "millennial" but on the tail end. Not going to really talk about my own performance because I don't want to come off as a braggart, but when it came to the people under me, the younger millennial workers messed around more, but had MUCH higher production. The more relaxed of an environment you give them while rewarding people for following proper safety and quality protocol, the more productive they were. At the same time some of the absolute shittiest workers we had were the older conservative guys who thought they knew everything, didn't want to be told what to do by people younger than them and constantly started arguments about politics and things they didn't like about younger people.

Now I'm not saying everyone is like that, and maybe it had nothing to do with them being conservative, but in my experience those people were some of the biggest pains in the ass and absolute shittiest workers I've ever seen. Incredibly lazy, self absorbed, rude and always thinking the world owed them something. I very rarely had any problems with the younger workers other than them screwing around and socializing too much on occasion, but when they can do triple or more of the production of those other guys in 2/3 the time, trying to be an asshole about it would be counter-productive.

The bottom line is that pretending that millennials are always acting like special privileged snowflakes and all of the older crowd are great workers is just silly. Let me put it this way: the youngest person that worked under me was also the most liberal and was also pretty much hands down the best worker, never caused problems, etc. His dad also worked there, was one of the oldest and most conservative people there, was a complete asshole, completely unproductive and got fired for being lazy. Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything, but it's certainly shown me not to judge a book by its cover. I currently work with a guy who's pretty conservative, he's old enough to be my grandfather and he's a great worker. Just don't assume because someone's age or politics that you can automatically label them. If you're doing that, you're the problem.

Edit: Spelling

I'm not denying anything you said, there are good and bad millenials, there are good and bad older-than-millenials... BUT your own experience as you describe it seems to show you never actually meet good older-than-millenial worker. I've meet barely few myself, but they were godlike, they barely seem to exist, but I'd gladly work with any of those than with anyone else at my age (me being millenial myself).

I can only guess that all good old workers in any job field were so good that they either retired long ago or got promoted above their worse coworkers, and that's why pre-millenials seem so bad - you actually work only with worst of those who remained at the bottom.

[Vash The Stampede]

So 60-70 year old's are upset with 30 year old's.

What a crazy world we live in, right?

Get off their lawn?

[Rotted]

Projecting much?

I hate to say it, but from what I've seen so far, the mass majority of them are like it, I joined uni late due to finical reason and every kid in my dammed department think they are the big it, should have it all, the university is there solely because of "their" money this it should be all about them.

1) I've seen the fuckers complain to the lecturers in a lecture because they answer a question two minutes before the lecture ends and it's holding them up,

2) I've seen one lose their shit with a supervisor because they hadn't started their dissertation or done any practical for it two days before its due in.

3)I've seen one guy get aggressive with a female lecturer during an assignment workshop because the assignment said "pick a species from this list, you must find x information, y information and z information in order to calculate population projections" He went ape shit because he over slept the last workshop and missed it, then demanded to know why he had to gather said information and she didn't give it to him and what the fuck is he paying her wages for.

4) I've had a group of 'lads' get aggressive with me because I interfered with their own version of the practical - which they decided to take the guppies out of the water to see how long it took for them to die. Again, they are paying to be there =/= the guppies are theirs to do with what they want.

5) I've seen people throw hissy fits, file complaints and cry because we've had to kill flies, I've also seen the same reactions during dissections - We were training zoologists btw,

6) I've seen people play hell because they get capped at 40% in an assignment because they couldn't be arsed to turn up to the practical, and thought that was acceptable because they didn't want to.

7) I've seen people again throw fits outside of lectures because people ask questions, and they complain its holding them up. But they don't have big enough balls to stand up and walk out

8) Outside of uni at town I've seen some fucking disgusting behavior from them. One giving a homeless bloke a tenner, then rubbing it in his face how it's a lot of money to him (the homeless) and it's nothing compared to what they have (the student). That they should be able to cut ques because its them and they are "good mates" with the bouncers from last weekend.

9) the ones who get committee spots on sports clubs or society's are the worst, want everything their way or throw tantrums because someone disagrees with it. I shit you not I was president for the Karate club and we were sat down with every other martial arts club discussing a in house uni tournament. This one girl on the karate committee (the sectary taking notes ironically) threatened to slap the taekwando president and stormed off. Why? Because this girl was insistent we used her set of rules from her club back home with 0 changes (any one who does a bit of MA knows thats just a recipe for disaster with mixed clubs), what did the taekwando president say? "We can't do a non-adapted set of rules because that's not fair on some clubs like Aikdo" Literally, he was thinking about another club, nothing to do with his.

10) The most common one, and it's just trash, (and the universitys need to grow a backbone in regards to it) Disabilities and other conditions, Now there are legit people out there who need special circumstances. Then there are others who take the absolute piss and get the carpet rolled out. Take me for example I suffer with Crohns disease. It's no big deal, but come exam periods, stress even a small bit set me off, on the actual day of exams I'd be going off like a trigger jammed AK47, I shit you not (no pun intended...) one exam I had to leave after 15 minutes it was that bad. I went to the uni and said this isn't working, is it possible to do alternative assessments, I provided all the medical evidence and the likes and they said no, it wasn't a good enough reason. But, the person telling me this said "Would you say this causes you to be anxious" (me: Obviously) "In that case, we can offer you alternative assessment, have a good day". Now after that, three people I know went into the office, each of them spent 60 seconds in there and all said the same thing "We get anxious and panic attack like symptoms doing exams" All of them got granted alternative assessment, no evidence needed. Its a piss take.

11) did a independent research project this year, I had two third years also with me working on their own projects, what we were working with is quite expensive for a third year project just all lab chemicals etc, so they share, makes sense in fairness. This guy didn't turn up for 2 hours, so we got on with what we needed to do, he eventually turned up and started playing fuck we started without him (regardless it was all prep and he hadn't missed anything that was of use to him). He literally said he over slept by a hour thirty minutes, showered and left, and he couldn't possibly have the time to text us. He came in stinking of BO, Booze, Masturbation and greasy hair to complete the look. Just hung over to shit.

12) Back to my first year, working with all the younger students, group project, this guy hadn't turned up to three meetings, so I sent him a message saying look buddy, third time this has happened, from our point of view you can't be arsed, you've replied to no messages, so it's going down on the feedback sheet you haven't pulled your weight, everyone completely agrees. Inc abusive messages none stop to me saying I'm talking shit and I don't know what he's going through. Turns out his little brother had come up to stay with him for a month, on the first weekend he turned 18 and they got him pissed as a fart, he spent the first week hung over and the following two weeks sulking because his girlfriend left him, the older brother (our group member) decided giving him more booze as a comfort was more important than the work. He specifically said to me "It's my share of the work, my responsibility if I want to fail it its fine" You know what that's fine in my books 99% of the time. However at the start of those three weeks, my grand mother was taken in to hospital extremely ill, Now the hospital is by my uni and the closest family members are a 2 hour drive away. I got up at 8, went in to lectures for 9, finished at 2, went into the hospital until 6-8 when family showed up, every day I watched her physically wither away while her mind stayed 100% with it. I turned up to each group meeting, did my share and his share, and never once mentioned it, so I let rip on this guy, needless to say, he turned up to every single one after.

I could keep going examples a dozen at a time are popping into my head everything from society, lectures work experience, library experiences, I've got them all, and it's all these kids and it all comes back down to the same reasoning, they think are the center of the dammed planet and everyone else around them is a tool or a stepping stone for their own device. I don't like branding and stereotyping a group like that, but this time its legit

TLR Millennials are snowflakes based on personal experiance

[StayTuned]

Advice? Companies are less productive than ever due to new "talent" thinking they're entitled to everything. When they might as well hire chinese or indians who are more skilled, more productive and require a fraction of the salary you demand.

Indians and Chinese are overrated. They lack both practical and social skills in Germany's workforce. They even demand more money than Germans because they think they're the shit. They usually are not. This is my daily bread and butter, I know what I'm talking about.

Nobody I work with believes to be entitled to anything. Neither young nor old.

It's down to the company to hire people based on how well they think the new employee will integrate and perform. If they constantly hire your "special snowflake", they're a shit company doomed to fail. But so are companies who stick to their 50+ workforce that seems to be utterly unable to innovate.

[Triks]

I hate to say it, but from what I've seen so far, the mass majority of them are like it, I joined uni late due to finical reason and every kid in my dammed department think they are the big it, should have it all, the university is there solely because of "their" money this it should be all about them.

1) I've seen the fuckers complain to the lecturers in a lecture because they answer a question two minutes before the lecture ends and it's holding them up,

2) I've seen one lose their shit with a supervisor because they hadn't started their dissertation or done any practical for it two days before its due in.

3)I've seen one guy get aggressive with a female lecturer during an assignment workshop because the assignment said "pick a species from this list, you must find x information, y information and z information in order to calculate population projections" He went ape shit because he over slept the last workshop and missed it, then demanded to know why he had to gather said information and she didn't give it to him and what the fuck is he paying her wages for.

4) I've had a group of 'lads' get aggressive with me because I interfered with their own version of the practical - which they decided to take the guppies out of the water to see how long it took for them to die. Again, they are paying to be there =/= the guppies are theirs to do with what they want.

5) I've seen people throw hissy fits, file complaints and cry because we've had to kill flies, I've also seen the same reactions during dissections - We were training zoologists btw,

6) I've seen people play hell because they get capped at 40% in an assignment because they couldn't be arsed to turn up to the practical, and thought that was acceptable because they didn't want to.

7) I've seen people again throw fits outside of lectures because people ask questions, and they complain its holding them up. But they don't have big enough balls to stand up and walk out

8) Outside of uni at town I've seen some fucking disgusting behavior from them. One giving a homeless bloke a tenner, then rubbing it in his face how it's a lot of money to him (the homeless) and it's nothing compared to what they have (the student). That they should be able to cut ques because its them and they are "good mates" with the bouncers from last weekend.

9) the ones who get committee spots on sports clubs or society's are the worst, want everything their way or throw tantrums because someone disagrees with it. I shit you not I was president for the Karate club and we were sat down with every other martial arts club discussing a in house uni tournament. This one girl on the karate committee (the sectary taking notes ironically) threatened to slap the taekwando president and stormed off. Why? Because this girl was insistent we used her set of rules from her club back home with 0 changes (any one who does a bit of MA knows thats just a recipe for disaster with mixed clubs), what did the taekwando president say? "We can't do a non-adapted set of rules because that's not fair on some clubs like Aikdo" Literally, he was thinking about another club, nothing to do with his.

10) The most common one, and it's just trash, (and the universitys need to grow a backbone in regards to it) Disabilities and other conditions, Now there are legit people out there who need special circumstances. Then there are others who take the absolute piss and get the carpet rolled out. Take me for example I suffer with Crohns disease. It's no big deal, but come exam periods, stress even a small bit set me off, on the actual day of exams I'd be going off like a trigger jammed AK47, I shit you not (no pun intended...) one exam I had to leave after 15 minutes it was that bad. I went to the uni and said this isn't working, is it possible to do alternative assessments, I provided all the medical evidence and the likes and they said no, it wasn't a good enough reason. But, the person telling me this said "Would you say this causes you to be anxious" (me: Obviously) "In that case, we can offer you alternative assessment, have a good day". Now after that, three people I know went into the office, each of them spent 60 seconds in there and all said the same thing "We get anxious and panic attack like symptoms doing exams" All of them got granted alternative assessment, no evidence needed. Its a piss take.

11) did a independent research project this year, I had two third years also with me working on their own projects, what we were working with is quite expensive for a third year project just all lab chemicals etc, so they share, makes sense in fairness. This guy didn't turn up for 2 hours, so we got on with what we needed to do, he eventually turned up and started playing fuck we started without him (regardless it was all prep and he hadn't missed anything that was of use to him). He literally said he over slept by a hour thirty minutes, showered and left, and he couldn't possibly have the time to text us. He came in stinking of BO, Booze, Masturbation and greasy hair to complete the look. Just hung over to shit.

12) Back to my first year, working with all the younger students, group project, this guy hadn't turned up to three meetings, so I sent him a message saying look buddy, third time this has happened, from our point of view you can't be arsed, you've replied to no messages, so it's going down on the feedback sheet you haven't pulled your weight, everyone completely agrees. Inc abusive messages none stop to me saying I'm talking shit and I don't know what he's going through. Turns out his little brother had come up to stay with him for a month, on the first weekend he turned 18 and they got him pissed as a fart, he spent the first week hung over and the following two weeks sulking because his girlfriend left him, the older brother (our group member) decided giving him more booze as a comfort was more important than the work. He specifically said to me "It's my share of the work, my responsibility if I want to fail it its fine" You know what that's fine in my books 99% of the time. However at the start of those three weeks, my grand mother was taken in to hospital extremely ill, Now the hospital is by my uni and the closest family members are a 2 hour drive away. I got up at 8, went in to lectures for 9, finished at 2, went into the hospital until 6-8 when family showed up, every day I watched her physically wither away while her mind stayed 100% with it. I turned up to each group meeting, did my share and his share, and never once mentioned it, so I let rip on this guy, needless to say, he turned up to every single one after.

I could keep going examples a dozen at a time are popping into my head everything from society, lectures work experience, library experiences, I've got them all, and it's all these kids and it all comes back down to the same reasoning, they think are the center of the dammed planet and everyone else around them is a tool or a stepping stone for their own device. I don't like branding and stereotyping a group like that, but this time its legit

TLR Millennials are snowflakes based on personal experiance

That's one of the most disgusting things I have ever read in my life.

[Magicpot]

More like that "advice" is how companies grow old and stale and lose talent. Treat your employees like shit, you get shit

Pretty much. A competitor of the company I'm working for has a staff that can only charitably be described as ancient. The bosses have temper issues and exactly the attitude displayed in the OP. Guess what, in 10 years more then half of their work force will be retired, and their shit reputation will mean they'll get nobody new. If they make it that long which isn't said with their sales that have been on a steady downward trend for the last 5 years.

Mind you, there are some real entitled shitheads in the millenial / gen X generations, but these are in every generation. The way they fare doesn't change either. Peak in HS / College, followed by a brick wall of reality and irrelevance.

He's a campy diva adopting contrarian views for the sole reason of taking the piss out of his viewers and to earn accolades from those who will herald him as a voice of reason.

Milo Yanapalooza is in the same category as well.

Also rich that the figurative poster child of entitled shithead is lecturing people about entitlement while sounding like he has done and achieved nothing all his life but professionally talking down to people. Lol.