Chinese understanding of white left

[luc54]

Sounds like a copy-paste of the opinion of most young people on the outer right this part of the world.

Typing that up, I sorely miss a phrase to describe the right-wing version of "SJW", "young people on the outer right" sounds really inaccurate.

Just call them AJW. Alternate Justice Warrior. The only difference between them and SJW is that they get triggered by different things.

[Garnier Fructis]

Just call them AJW. Alternate Justice Warrior. The only difference between them and SJW is that they get triggered by different things.

Basically. Just mention the Dalai Lama and watch them blow a fuse.

[alexw]

First off, everything I wrote would still apply even if there wasn't anything spread 'into' their country. Because China already has like 50+ different ethnic minorities, and shitting on them could basically be considered a national sport.

You're trying to frame this whole thing as if it had a rational basis, and it's a steaming pile of shit for the same reason it always is: because you've got the motivation and action all jumbled up. The starting is and always has been the idea that the Han are superior, and everyone else is an inferior human.

Including Venant. So its ironic him using the Chinese as an excuse to paint western non-whites as sub-human when to those Chinese he's sub-human himself.

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I wonder what they call their own politicians?

Oh right, China

[Garnier Fructis]

Including Venant. So its ironic him using the Chinese as an excuse to paint western non-whites as sub-human when to those Chinese he's sub-human himself.

That's the weirdest thing to me. They haven't realized that they're running defense for people who would love to see them all speaking Chinese.

[Kolbjorn]

Isnt China a communist country?

Not really. It was communist for about 2 years until Mao lost popularity in the party since it was clear communism wasn't working and Deng Xiaoping took over. They kept the name, but none of the principles. The word "communism" is blocked in Chinese internet, specifically to prevent the population from knowing what communism actually is.

China is actually a merit-based oligarchy, with a much larger portion of the government made up of engineers and scientists (people that understand numbers) compared to countries with marketing/loud-yelling based governments. The "merit based" portion is based on promotions within the party being based on your region exceeding growth expectations, and/or whatever other metrics are currently high priority.

Not saying it's the right way to go - they have some pretty serious authoritarian problems, but they're certainly not 'communist.'

[Xires]

I'm continually amazed that the far right keeps trotting out the fact that they agree with the mainland Chinese public on various topics, as if it was something to be held up and admired. I guess it's simply never dawned on them that they're constantly agreeing with people who value strongmen & authoritarian stability and who think democracy is a weakness.

And it's not as if their beliefs are grounded in any sort of good reasoning, either. That part where the Chinese mock the focus on immigrants and minorities? Yeah, that's because Han Chinese have this tendency to be racist as hell. And before the excuses roll in: they acknowledged it themselves decades ago, and made a token attempt to fix it with the policy of 'Zhonghua Minzu' in their constitution. This has, of course, done jack shit to actually reduce Han supremacist tendencies.

Because as we've learned in the states, simply declaring that racism is over does not make it so.

Who agrees with the Chinese about anything? The left loves the Chinese as the left loves communism.
Don't try and throw your dingbat beliefs our way. You also love Castro, the Iranians, and you even funded ISIS but told us that they were "the moderate muslim rebels fighting assad" ...yup, King Obama. Who had his legacy repudiated and his party destroyed. THe nail on the coffin is when they thought that they could run someone like Hillary Clinton in simply because she sits down when she pee's.

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Not really. It was communist for about 2 years until Mao lost popularity in the party since it was clear communism wasn't working and Deng Xiaoping took over. They kept the name, but none of the principles. The word "communism" is blocked in Chinese internet, specifically to prevent the population from knowing what communism actually is.

China is actually a merit-based oligarchy, with a much larger portion of the government made up of engineers and scientists (people that understand numbers) compared to countries with marketing/loud-yelling based governments. The "merit based" portion is based on promotions within the party being based on your region exceeding growth expectations, and/or whatever other metrics are currently high priority.

Not saying it's the right way to go - they have some pretty serious authoritarian problems, but they're certainly not 'communist.'

lol They cancelled over half of their television shows because they were having too much western influence upon the Chinese people. They censor internet and information, have a class system of citizens, are very poor when it comes to human rights, and steal from their citizens, AND they steal everything from the west...they aren't nice.

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Please, tell me more about this White Genocide.

It isn't a conspiracy theory when the numbers and facts show us that is exactly what is happening. No Latin nations are "diversifying", No African nations are, no asian nations are, and no arab nations are. ONLY white nations are being told that they HAVE to diversify or they are racist. The numbers even show that whites are getting smaller in their own nations while foreign born babies are starting to take over. So YES, it is white genocide and that bullshit you linked was from the very people who are encouraging it. Wake up, scrub.

[Garnier Fructis]

Who agrees with the Chinese about anything? The left loves the Chinese as the left loves communism.
Don't try and throw your dingbat beliefs our way. You also love Castro, the Iranians, and you even funded ISIS but told us that they were "the moderate muslim rebels fighting assad" ...yup, King Obama. Who had his legacy repudiated and his party destroyed. THe nail on the coffin is when they thought that they could run someone like Hillary Clinton in simply because she sits down when she pee's.

The left loves China? Where does this tripe even come from?

[Kolbjorn]

lol They cancelled over half of their television shows because they were having too much western influence upon the Chinese people. They censor internet and information, have a class system of citizens, are very poor when it comes to human rights, and steal from their citizens, AND they steal everything from the west...they aren't nice.

None of which has anything to do with communism. You're confusing authoritarianism with communism.

"Steal everything from the west" is an interesting one. The entire point of TPP was to mitigate IP theft/trade biases by structuring trade across Asia... but we opted out (I guess 'cause most Americans haven't actually studied or done business in international trade), allowing China to continue ignoring western IP protections. Is it stealing if we give it to them?

[Garnier Fructis]

It isn't a conspiracy theory when the numbers and facts show us that is exactly what is happening. No Latin nations are "diversifying", No African nations are, no asian nations are, and no arab nations are. ONLY white nations are being told that they HAVE to diversify or they are racist. The numbers even show that whites are getting smaller in their own nations while foreign born babies are starting to take over. So YES, it is white genocide and that bullshit you linked was from the very people who are encouraging it. Wake up, scrub.

In which 'genocide' means 'group A is breeding more than group B,' apparently. Jesus.

Apologize to actual victims of genocide, please.

[Sky High]

The left loves China? Where does this tripe even come from?

"you're all pinko commies and my understanding of politics comes from what I watch on teh Saturday morning cartoons!"

[JohnBrown1917]

"you're all pinko commies and my understanding of politics comes from what I watch on teh Saturday morning cartoons!"

Fox news, Info wars and Breitbart*

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Fox news, Info wars and Breitbart*

I kind of want to see what Saturday morning cartoons would look like, if they were to promote their messages.

"We are building the wall, so that the big brown wolf can't come in and huff and puff away all our jobs"

[Zelk]

China are a state capitalist nation with nationalism rising in popularity. Worryingly close to fascism actually.

[Kolbjorn]

In which 'genocide' means 'group A is breeding more than group B,' apparently. Jesus.

Apologize to actual victims of genocide, please.

At the same time, those same people mad about not enough white babies are against policies that would increase the number of affluent white babies. (For example, paid maternity leave.)

It's almost like they have no idea what they're talking about.

[Vargrik]

Please, tell me more about this White Genocide.

It's basic math really.

Whites have less than 2 kids in general (increasingly none, when they treat dogs as their own babies instead), while non-Whites leaving in Western countries have a lot more than 2 and, in some countries, even receive welfare benefits for having more kids, like in France (housing benefits). What this means is that, even if immigration stopped altogether, Western European countries would still be doomed as White European countries. They would turn into something else instead.

The left either doesn't think about this very easily understandable fact or doesn't care, because they are taught from a very young age that their race, the White race, is responsible for everything bad that occurred to other peoples in History (or at least recent History), since the education system ignores imperialism, colonialism and exploration of members of a people by other members of their own people in other races/peoples.

[HumbleDuck]

So What's the difference between this and cuck then?

[Kolbjorn]

It's basic math really.

Whites have less than 2 kids in general (increasingly none, when they treat dogs as their own babies instead), while non-Whites leaving in Western countries have a lot more than 2 and, in some countries, even receive welfare benefits for having more kids, like in France (housing benefits). What this means is that, even if immigration stopped altogether, Western European countries would still be doomed as White European countries. They would turn into something else instead.

While you rail about "welfare benefits," what are you doing to mitigate the career risk affluent white career women take by having kids?

If you want more white kids, do something about the reasons affluent career women delay/don't have kids. Don't whine.

Yes, this will result in more affluent <other race> kids too, but in the short run, it would disproportionately help your white kids goals.

[HumbleDuck]

It's basic math really.

Whites have less than 2 kids in general (increasingly none, when they treat dogs as their own babies instead), while non-Whites leaving in Western countries have a lot more than 2 and, in some countries, even receive welfare benefits for having more kids, like in France (housing benefits). What this means is that, even if immigration stopped altogether, Western European countries would still be doomed as White European countries. They would turn into something else instead.

The left either doesn't think about this very easily understandable fact or doesn't care, because they are taught from a very young age that their race, the White race, is responsible for everything bad that occurred to other peoples in History (or at least recent History), since the education system ignores imperialism, colonialism and exploration of members of a people by other members of their own people in other races/peoples.

No, they don't care because the color of your skin doesn't matter ...

[Garnier Fructis]

It's basic math really.

Whites have less than 2 kids in general (increasingly none, when they treat dogs as their own babies instead), while non-Whites leaving in Western countries have a lot more than 2 and, in some countries, even receive welfare benefits for having more kids, like in France (housing benefits). What this means is that, even if immigration stopped altogether, Western European countries would still be doomed as White European countries. They would turn into something else instead.

The left either doesn't think about this very easily understandable fact or doesn't care, because they are taught from a very young age that their race, the White race, is responsible for everything bad that occurred to other peoples in History (or at least recent History), since the education system ignores imperialism, colonialism and exploration of members of a people by other members of their own people in other races/peoples.

Or we dismiss it because to call this genocide is an insult to victims of actual genocides.

White people aren't being killed off.