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    What are the Russians saying about this? Or are they staying quiet, waiting for the reaction of the American public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Exactly how many times does a US General or US Intelligence Community leader have to call Russia our "most aggressive adversary" or something of that nature before these people get the picture.
    If a person decides, that the views and laws regarding his civilian life also apply to events taking place on the international stage, then there is no helping. If they do not have bad feelings about Russia, why do you ?

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    But isnt the president allowed to declassify information?

    If not him, who then?

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    Surprised OP hasn't called Trump a petulant child yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    @Skroe, question about this in concerns with the people very unconcerned about this because they claim that the decision to share it openly is fully at the president's discretion

    Would the sharing of this information by one of America's allies be conditional to retain it within certain circles been a part of a treaty, more specifically NATO (or more specifically the US-Britain-French close circle in the higher echelons of NATO), and more importantly does the president have the ability within the US government to amend its participation in such a treaty to declassify information gained by it with a third party?
    The executive order for Presidential power to declassify only covers classified information where the United States is the originator, or has authority over. If the originator is one of our foreign allies, then that is an entirely different debacle.

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    Finding it amusing the right has a parasitical fake news ecosystem and now the left is trying to get in on the job.

    This is unverifiable bullshit. We had this conspiracy thread otherday : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...n-Donald-Trump

    And now we have another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Europe here, we'd rather have you put him in your shitty prisons(not the high class rich ones) and 24/7 livestream it.


    Anybody on the left and center right would pay good money for it!
    Just think of dem sweet euros.
    Why would we feed him gyros in prison? He gets shitty prison food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    @Skroe, question about this in concerns with the people very unconcerned about this because they claim that the decision to share it openly is fully at the president's discretion

    Would the sharing of this information by one of America's allies be conditional to retain it within certain circles been a part of a treaty, more specifically NATO (or more specifically the US-Britain-French close circle in the higher echelons of NATO), and more importantly does the president have the ability within the US government to amend its participation in such a treaty to declassify information gained by it with a third party?
    1. yes
    2. not unless he did a lot of paperwork first afaik.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Even then, slight fatigue from volume.

    This matters because potentially misshandling state secrets<actively misshandling state secrets. And all the people who have to keep their heads low to keep them now.
    Well, there's plenty overall to bash Trump about. This just happens to be one of the more valid reasons. I'm not sure how any nationalistic conservative can defend him on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Finding it amusing the right has a parasitical fake news ecosystem and now the left is trying to get in on the job.

    This is unverifiable bullshit. We had this conspiracy thread otherday : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...n-Donald-Trump

    And now we have another.
    This one actually has teeth if he didn't declassify it or it's not ours to declassify. Otherwise, it's stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    But isnt the president allowed to declassify information?

    If not him, who then?
    He can, but did he? Not only that, the United States does not appear to be the originator of the information, which means it's not ours to share... even for the President.

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    I will only believe in news if multiple independend sources report about it.

    Theres nothing in the german trustworthy press yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Well, there's plenty overall to bash Trump about. This just happens to be one of the more valid reasons. I'm not sure how any nationalistic conservative can defend him on this one.
    The same reason anti-blowing up the middle East got quiet when Obama took the mantle. And people who were loud for Obama got quiet for Trump.

    Team sports are big in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    He talks about national security like he's hawking a Trump Steak on us.

    What the fuck?!
    This is who "we" elected. It's a moving nightmare that changed daily into a train wreck and back. And unfortunately, as you've pointed out, the path to redemption will be long and painful.

    And McConnell seems to think he can prevent a special prosecutor from being appointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    I will only believe in news if multiple independend sources report about it.

    Theres nothing in the german trustworthy press yet.
    Is there something like a copyright for classified informations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Finding it amusing the right has a parasitical fake news ecosystem and now the left is trying to get in on the job.

    This is unverifiable bullshit. We had this conspiracy thread otherday : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...n-Donald-Trump

    And now we have another.
    This isn't a "report" from a crazy lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    The same reason anti-blowing up the middle East got quiet when Obama took the mantle. And people who were loud for Obama got quiet for Trump.

    Team sports are big in America.
    You apologists and what-about-it's crack me up. You'll hand-wave anything if it even remotely resembles anything ever done before.

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    GROMPH IS FINISHED THIS TIME TWO SCOOPS WAS THE LAST STRAW TWONALD THRUMPHHHHHHHHHH












    Oh, more fake news.










    Do you guys ever get tired of losing?
    I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Finding it amusing the right has a parasitical fake news ecosystem and now the left is trying to get in on the job.

    This is unverifiable bullshit. We had this conspiracy thread otherday : http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...n-Donald-Trump

    And now we have another.
    Just because it isn't unverified, doesn't mean its fake. Fake news is stating that Clinton had Vince Foster killed. But hey, you do you I guess.

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    Oh, the guardian also reports it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-house-report

    Sounds reasonable. Two independend sources report the same.

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