Trump Revealed Classified Information to Russian Foreign Minister - WashPo

[xerus]

Mishandling classified information can be grounds for impeachment, especially when sharing with our number 1 adversary.

Except the president has extremely broad powers when it comes to handling classified information. No one actually thinks what he did is illegal, but just a further symptom of his incompetence. The harm it could do to our allies and our ability to share classified information is what is important about this.

What I found most funny is that McMaster didn't actually say it was untrue. He said the story as reported was untrue. If you listen to his statement it is a veritable dance on a tightrope to not confirm nor deny anything.

[kaid]

If this is true it is grounds for not only impeachment but charges of treason.

Unfortunately not. It would be fully within the presidents power to basically give all US secrets to whoever he wants. That is the whole problem of electing a doofus like Trump as president.

[NYC17]

I love Ana Navaro. If you want to see a principled conservative who didn't compromise their integrity and values to stand with a monster, she's one. She's a saint in this regard.

She's ok. She came dangerously close to shilling for Trump right after his election. It happens.


In other news, according to Fox, Spicer's briefing will now be a cameraless gaggle, and McMaster will handle the briefing at 11:30am. This was right before they cut to the other headline of the day...a teen dying from drinking too much caffeine.

[Bullettime]

Except the president has extremely broad powers when it comes to handling classified information. No one actually thinks what he did is illegal, but just a further symptom of his incompetence. The harm it could do to our allies and our ability to share classified information is what is important about this.

It's still grounds for impeachment but in a different way. It's one more thing to the pile when discussions of Trump's mental health and his fitness to govern continue, and they're already happening by his own party.

Do I think he'll go down for this? No. But I imagine the GOP are having more of their reported private meetings discussing how they hell they deal with Trump and when is the time to cut him loose.

[Brubear]

Its fake Trump didn't share classified info.

See the article I just linked and/or Trumps Twitter feed from this morning. He just confirmed that it was true.

[Uzkin]

We have China if we need an advanced enemy. In fact, China is driving MOST of our procurement as I stated. We don't need warships to fight Russia. But what is at the centerpiece of the coming Americans arms build-up? A Navy with 75 more warships, the biggest item on US procurement.

And what has been the US been buying since 2012? Long range anti-ship missiles of all sorts. The kind of thing we wouldn't need to take Russia to the shed.

Russia is our chief adversary today. But they are also a distraction against the more significant longer term threat. Your thesis is dead wrong for a host of reasons, but were there any inkling of truth to the basis of it, Russia wouldn't be a factor since China is the target of our most expensive spending.

All of our most advanced aircraft, weapons and ships are headed to the Pacific.

The more imaginary enemies, the better (for the military). But yeah, China is definitely one of them. The US generals just tend to exercise a more temperate tone with them than with Russia due to the larger economic dependence.

Edit. And I was mainly shooting down *his* thesis of US military spending being aimed against the ISIS terrorists.

[Rukh]

Unfortunately not. It would be fully within the presidents power to basically give all US secrets to whoever he wants. That is the whole problem of electing a doofus like Trump as president.

Exactly. This is why elections matter and people need to get off the goddamned say whatever lies to back their team bandwagon. This isn't about republicans vs democrats. And to their credit, plenty of Republicans have already realized that.

[Bullettime]

Unfortunately not. It would be fully within the presidents power to basically give all US secrets to whoever he wants. That is the whole problem of electing a doofus like Trump as president.

He can do it but he can still be ousted if he becomes considered a natsec concern.

[xerus]

Its fake Trump didn't share classified info.

That is only accurate in the sense that the president can chose what is classified and what isn't.

I would lay money on everything he shared being highly classified up until the point he shared it.

[Traveler Voltin]

Go riot in the streets then.

[Pterodactylus]

See the article I just linked and/or Trumps Twitter feed from this morning. He just confirmed that it was true.

The ability some people have to deny reality to fit a narrative is amazing.

[alexw]

Its fake Trump didn't share classified info.

Yes he did. Stop lying.

[Brubear]

So not only was this story confirmed by Trump this morning, but now European officials are saying they might stop sharing intelligence info with us because of Trump being a risk to leak said info.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...-intel-with-us

A European intelligence official is reportedly warning that his country may stop sharing information with the U.S. after reports that President Trump revealed highly classified intel to Russian officials.

The official said sharing information "could be a risk for our sources," The Associated Press reported.

The Washington Post reported Monday that Trump revealed highly classified intelligence information to Russia's foreign minister and ambassador while meeting with them last week in the Oval Office.

Trump reportedly revealed “code-word information” related to threats from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria that had been provided by a U.S. ally.
One U.S. official told the newspaper that the information was so sensitive it had not been provided to U.S. allies.

Trump discussed the information, according to the report, with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office during a meeting last Wednesday — a day after he fired FBI Director James Comey.

The White House on Monday evening pushed back on the reports. Speaking outside the White House, national security adviser H.R. McMaster said: "The story that came out tonight, as reported, is false."

Trump on Tuesday tweeted that as president, he wanted to share facts with Russia related to "terrorism and airline flight safety," which he said he had the "absolute right to do."

[Eskendereya]

The real story is the intelligence community acting as their own shadow government continuously leaking things to the press that should never be leaked. Whether it's one person or many, these people are undermining democracy taking it upon themselves deciding who they want in office or not.

It appears Trump shared knowledge of a possible terrorist situation with the Russians but didn't give any important details like who, when and where but of course this story is going to be overblown as usual.

[Macaquerie]

Because a bunch of hunting-camo wearing knuckledragging losers allowed their outrage SJWs or "liberals" to override their common sense and patriotism.

One day they'll wake up and realize what they did and get their common sense back (most of them anyway). Their patriotism though? Like losing your virginity, there's no take-backs. They compromised their integrity and American values. That sticks with them the rest of their lives.

Make America Great Again My Ass.

Part of that is the fault of society as a whole though. We've spent far too long propping up these blue collar Bubba types in our national imagination, as if uneducated working class schlubs were the foundation for American success and prosperity, even though the actual work is largely done by illegal immigrants or in sweatshops abroad. The main contribution of the white working class these days is as fodder for our limitless superiority complexes, because hey as bad as my life gets at least I'm not one of those idiot Trump voters.

[araine]

For what exactly?

And i am sure you would support Hillary or Obama leaking highly classified information to a Russia. Really that you cant see the problem here is the main problem we have in USA today that some are so blind to the facts around them that they just cant see the forest infront of them due to all the trees i guess.

Really if Obama had been taking 4 months straight of golf weekends on the taxpayer dime and done the other things donny have been doing up until now he would been removed from office already and YOU would be one of them screaming the loudest about how totally unfit he is for office and lock up the idiot etc etc etc etc.

Really personally i agree if Obama had done these things he should be gone lock him up for treason no way i will support an idiot that commits TREASON in the white house country over party bro country over party and If your president is corrupt he has to go period end of discussion.

[Skroe]

The more imaginary enemies, the better (for the military). But yeah, China is definitely one of them. The US generals just tend to exercise a more temperate tone with them than with Russia due to the larger economic dependence.

Okay you see what you wrote here? This is you trying to save face. "More imaginary enemies the better" is ridiculous. The US operated with ONE enemy - The Soviet Union - for 50 years, and it was enough for budgets that dwarf our current one as a percentage of GDP.

And no, the US military says very stern things about China and their illegal actions. The difference is, right now, the US could conceivably beat the shit out of China six ways to Sunday. With Russia, the US could more than take it in a conventional war, but a nuclear war would only be "winnable" only very specific circumstances and otherwise be highly destructive.

Russia is the greater immediate threat by far. China is the greater long term threat. Remember: Russia has talked about building stealth fighters and aircraft carriers for years, while China is actually doing it.

[Allybeboba]

Yeah, it was that Mexican gang PG-13 that one time.

We can't forget the "minor league" terrorist group.

[Rukh]

The real story is the intelligence community acting as their own shadow government continuously leaking things to the press that should never be leaked. Whether it's one person or many, these people are undermining democracy taking it upon themselves deciding who they want in office or not.

It appears Trump shared knowledge of a possible terrorist situation with the Russians but didn't give any important details like who, when and where but of course this story is going to be overblown as usual.

In this case it doesn't sound like it was the intelligence community but Trump's personal staffers. They are frustrated with his inability to take any criticism and see leaking information as the only way to get through to him.

[Deleted]

Love that trump supporters still deny he done it, even after he admitted it on twitter
And the amount of "but Hillary done" replies I'm getting today is unreal