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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    According to RCP, since he's been elected, he's gone from ~60% to 54%.

    I will agree that it's been in steady incline since January, but I maintain it has nothing to do with the general public. I attribute it to the politically active/engaged.
    My bad, I meant to say, "Since he's been inaugurated."

    Edit: Gallup, yougov, and ipsos all poll all adults, not even segregating by voters and likely voters. That's the general public.
    Last edited by Ripster42; 2017-05-18 at 02:27 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    This isn't about what I think specifically he has done. This is about finding out what he has actually done. You're whining that it's too expensive when it could very well be a matter of national security and international security as well. We don't know what he has done. We do know that it appears he has done something he is trying to hide. That should be concerning for anyone with a brain.
    Yeah, I kind of expected an evasive answer.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    My bad, I meant to say, "Since he's been inaugurated."
    10-4. Yes, it's been in steady incline. I'd just urge the left not to overplay their hand in lambasting Trump's each and every minor foible, as Gestopft seemed to be suggesting was the proper course of action.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    10-4. Yes, it's been in steady incline. I'd just urge the left not to overplay their hand in lambasting Trump's each and every minor foible, as Gestopft seemed to be suggesting was the proper course of action.
    It's pretty hard to have much negative press about how poorly trump is doing as president when he's not president yet. Which is why I'm going by time since inauguration.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    It's pretty hard to have much negative press about how poorly trump is doing as president when he's not president yet. Which is why I'm going by time since inauguration.
    Well you did mention his 50%+ unfavoribility rating, so I linked a poll that was simply favorable/unfavorable, and it only seemed fair to start from his election.

  6. #146
    "Just so you know, I'm under investigation."

    "Welcome aboard."

    It's just disturbing how much he values loyalty to him over loyalty to country.

    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    10-4. Yes, it's been in steady incline. I'd just urge the left not to overplay their hand in lambasting Trump's each and every minor foible, as Gestopft seemed to be suggesting was the proper course of action.
    I wasn't so much suggesting that; my point was that even if the Russia story dies, there's no lack of ammunition. For what it's worth, I'd prefer Dems stick to finding a better message and let the Trump administration's ineptitude speak for itself.
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Good. This way, the Democrats can not say it was a bias investigation. Mueller has a lot of by bipartisan respect.
    Works both ways. I'm perfectly happy with the pick.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchles View Post
    Works both ways. I'm perfectly happy with the pick.
    I agree. Just the odds are if anyone complains about the investigation if they find no connections to Trump, it will be from the Democrats.

  9. #149
    Oh dear Oh dear this would be such a shame.....

    https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...20071932035072

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    There's total confusion and panic in the WH tonight. Not just among Trump's staff but Pence's too. Real concern Pence will go down w/ Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    Seriously...what specifically have you Shillarys seen that makes you 100% sure there's something to these allegations? All you guys do is confidentaly call all this True....but why?

    See, kind of works both ways. nearly EVERYTHING that I have read that the Left claims is "evidence" comes from "anonymous" sources.

    Whilst I care little either way since If Trump gets Impeached, Hillary still won't be President which will still be a Net win.

    Really the only good thing about President Donald Trump is that the World never had to deal with President Hillary Clinton.
    Dafuq?

    - There's been staright up lying by numerous members of the Trump team.
    - There's every single intelligence agency saying Russia interfered. Every. Single. One. And not a goddmaned one of you has ever presented an actual reason they would all team up and lie about it.
    - Trump fired Comey.
    - Trump tried to get Comey to stop investigating Flynn.
    - Trump admitted he gave secrets to russia.

    WTF else do you want?
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  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Oh dear Oh dear this would be such a shame.....

    https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...20071932035072

    Jon Cooper‏Verified account @Joncoopertweets
    There's total confusion and panic in the WH tonight. Not just among Trump's staff but Pence's too. Real concern Pence will go down w/ Trump.
    Good.

    Too bad the 2018 elections are so far away. President Pelosi would have been great fun for the Trumpkins.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    the lack of any concrete evidence, or anything that's solid enough to use in court. If the FBI has anything they should be able to send it over to the Special Counsel right away
    First of all, please list for me the ongoing investigations of this magnitude that have released their evidence before they were done? Secondly, what about all the things we do know for a fact like the lying, disclosing of intel to Russians, trying to get the FBI to stop investigating Flynn, etc? How do you sycophants just ignore all of that? How? All of the things we do know for a fact are all 1000 times worse than anything we know for a fact about Hillary and all shit you Trumpers screamed and cried and ranted about?
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  13. #153
    I don't think that Trump colluded with anyone, Russians included.

    Collusion is way above Trump's abilities.

    What I do think has happened is that Trump's absolute incompetence has hindered and revealed collusion by some around him.

    That means those who actually colluded are now ready to dump Trump in the shit can to protect themselves.

    So this might mean we are rid of an incompetent fool as CiC, it probably will mean little for restoring confidence in the independence of the US government.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I agree. Just the odds are if anyone complains about the investigation if they find no connections to Trump, it will be from the Democrats.
    I think it is, at minimum, equally likely that Trump supporters will believe that any findings against Trump are a conspiracy to take him down from the biased media.

    I really hate how polarized US politics have become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I think it is, at minimum, equally likely that Trump supporters will believe that any findings against Trump are a conspiracy to take him down from the biased media.

    I really hate how polarized US politics have become.
    I do not think it would be equally likely. I for one, will accept the findings of this special investigator lead. I think most Republicans will also.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Dafuq?

    - There's been staright up lying by numerous members of the Trump team.
    - There's every single intelligence agency saying Russia interfered. Every. Single. One. And not a goddmaned one of you has ever presented an actual reason they would all team up and lie about it.
    - Trump fired Comey.
    - Trump tried to get Comey to stop investigating Flynn.
    - Trump admitted he gave secrets to russia.

    WTF else do you want?
    Clearly none of that matters until Trump sets up an off-site server for his email, and then uses it to send little more than the mediocre, boring bullshit any other old woman would. Then -- and only then -- will outrage be found! But only if Trump himself instigates the hate, so... in retrospect, abso-fucking-lutely nothing will satisfy these twits.

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  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Trump wants "to get to the bottom of this".

    you know.

    Like OJ wanted to find the real killers.
    The real killer was on the grassy knoll or in the storm drain?

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I do not think it would be equally likely. I for one, will accept the findings of this special investigator lead. I think most Republicans will also.
    I hope so...I just read some pretty crazy comments on the Fox News website, under the article about the special prosecutor being appointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I hope so...I just read some pretty crazy comments on the Fox News website, under the article about the special prosecutor being appointed.
    Who? There are some republicans I am sure who do not like this appointment. But it was up to the assistant DA to make the decision. So no matter if they do not like it, too bad. It is actually the best way to approach this. With someone who is in charge who has served under both parties and has the respect of both.

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