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Sometimes I'm just asking myself: how are RDruids pulling off those numbers? How is it even possible?Originally Posted by Apokavkos
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Thread: When do Mistweavers get love?
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2017-05-19, 04:44 PM #21Titan
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2017-05-19, 04:45 PM #22High Overlord
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It's super telling that I can parse 90% for my iLvl in Heroic and still be 200k HPS behind Druids performing similarly. HPS isn't the be all and end all, but when other healers are capable of 33% more healing you just can't ignore that.
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2017-05-19, 05:31 PM #23Over 9000!
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I'd be satisfied with a utility buff. Look at Shamans, they have LESS HPS than us but are still one of the most demanded healers simply because of the endless amount of utility they bring.
"It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ~ Mark Twain
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" ~ Jesus of Nazareth
"把它放在我的屁股，爸爸" ~ Dalai Lama
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2017-05-19, 05:42 PM #24Titan
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But we've got the AoE cleanse!!! Originally Posted by Saverem
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2017-05-19, 05:53 PM #25Blademaster
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Here's what really gets me pissed. The top 10% of players in mythic parses greatly out shine mistweavers. Lets take the first 4 bosses in Nighthold. The most approachable bosses. Originally Posted by Montegomery
Skorpyron Top 10%
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...849&dataset=90
Chronomatic Anomaly Top 10%
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...865&dataset=90
Trilliax Top 10%
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...hps&dataset=90
Krosus Top 10%
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...hps&dataset=90
The very best players of our class have to be fed 2+ innervates and/or 2 heal a boss in order to even parse.
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2017-05-19, 06:12 PM #26Over 9000!
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Oh right, I remember using it that one time on Helya. Originally Posted by Nyel
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You know your spec is broken when you're getting beaten by a DPS/heal hybrid spec. Originally Posted by Apokavkos
"It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ~ Mark Twain
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" ~ Jesus of Nazareth
"把它放在我的屁股，爸爸" ~ Dalai Lama
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2017-05-19, 10:13 PM #27Immortal
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People are still falling for this "Disc is dps/healer hybrid" meme? Seriously it's been how long, and people still don't understand that Disc is not a "hybrid" ? Originally Posted by Saverem
Disc's damage output is pathetic, only slightly above other healers. It is not a "DPS hybrid healer", it just uses damage spells to generate its heals. Its actual damage output is quite negligible. It does just as much healing as other healers.
And when it comes to these parses that have 2+ innervates on them, Disc happens to be the best target for innervates, so yeah, it's going to do well.Last edited by anon5123; 2017-05-19 at 10:58 PM.
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2017-05-20, 12:09 AM #28Dreadlord
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Good to see people are still using the "MW performs well in any environment that doesn't require performance" line and not realizing how retarded it is.
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2017-05-20, 12:27 AM #29Immortal
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"nothing matters except mythic raiding" is also pretty retarded. Originally Posted by Rife
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2017-05-20, 06:33 AM #30Deletednerf paladins btw Originally Posted by Apokavkos
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2017-05-20, 06:46 AM #31Scarab Lord
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Maybe they need to do their hair up, clean up a little, lay off the beer, then they'll get some love.
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2017-05-20, 07:47 AM #32The Patient
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MW must be the king for 18+ keystones. Oh, wait. Originally Posted by anon5123
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2017-05-20, 08:25 AM #33Titan
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I mean at least we have by far the best animations for our skills. That mint green looks just super cool.
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2017-05-21, 08:37 PM #34Mechagnome
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God some of you are cry babies. There's NOTHING in this game that you can't do as a MW. You can excel in any venue the game has to offer.
If you're truly just chasing numbers then you should have one of each healing spec and switch between the FotM classes. Otherwise just get better and enjoy your spec. If you're a good player, healer, and raider, then you will be highly coveted by any guild.
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2017-05-21, 08:38 PM #35Deleted
you can say that but that doesn't make it right
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2017-05-21, 08:43 PM #36Dreadlord
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It's not about being the top of the tops, it's about the fact that MW is so low comparatively that it's a hilarious joke. MW "utility" is garbage compared to the other healers, their scaling is hilariously poor and they bring nothing that other healers don't already have in spades. That's the issue with MW, not that people can't play it an be FotM Originally Posted by Hashcrypt
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2017-05-21, 08:53 PM #37Dreadlord
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Our guilds mistweaver performs great actually, we haven't had a single issue with her performance.
Thx to Isilrien for the awesome sig
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2017-05-21, 10:03 PM #38Bloodsail Admiral
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This is why MW is a mess because so many people who play it are delusional Originally Posted by Hashcrypt
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2017-05-21, 11:13 PM #39Stood in the Fire
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I notice when our 2 raiding Rdruids don't show up I tend to do pretty decent HPS, but otherwise I just feel I'm there as a security blank to cocoon someone who screws up.
Most of the time I'm just 100% dpsing as MW to rank (wee dps healers matter)
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2017-05-22, 01:36 AM #40Dreadlord
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I'd settle for being able to make choices with talents, having legendaries that aren't utter fking crap and T19/20 bonuses that are worth getting. Originally Posted by Hashcrypt
So much of the game simply doesn't apply to MW and that's what makes me disappointed in Blizzard more than pure numbers in mythic raiding.
There is absolutely NOTHING for MW to look forward to in 7.2.5. New content is being added and yet all of it is so obviously fucking horrible that they're not worth testing or getting.
Talents aren't worth changing.
MW legendaries aren't worth getting.
Tier 19/20 bonuses aren't worth getting.
New talent ring isn't worth getting.
New healer legendary isn't worth getting.
The amount of work needed to put MW in line with other healers in those aspects is monumental. There are so many things wrong that it feels like the spec needs another overhaul but given how the last overhaul worked out I'm not even sure that's a good option anymore.
That along with overall heavy throughput buffs needed to bring MW inline with Rdruid/Priests means the chances of all of those things happening is close to 0%.
Blizzard could launch 7.2.5 without the MW talent ring, without T20 MW set bonuses and without the new MW legendary shoulders and nothing would change. At this point MW might as well be removed from the game because there is no new content being made for the spec. That's an issue.Last edited by Rife; 2017-05-22 at 01:51 AM.
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