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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Haha, wtf. You know that Comey is on record saying that Trump never tried to obstruct the investigation right?
    Even so Trump said he fired Comey to try to stop the investigation. That's textbook obstruction of justice.

    Fucking idiot.
    Personal attacks are a forum no-no. Hope you aren't at forum vacation time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post

    Haha, wtf. You know that Comey is on record saying that Trump never tried to obstruct the investigation right? Fucking idiot.
    Considering he was never asked, under oath, if Trump tried to obstruct that is kind of hard to believe. The question he gave a vague answer to was if the Department of Justice or the Attorney General had tried to get him to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    This Ben Gazi fellow seems like a bad egg!
    I heard he was Muslim Kenyan who pretended that he was born in Hawaii.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerus View Post
    Considering he was never asked, under oath, if Trump tried to obstruct that is kind of hard to believe. The question he gave a vague answer to was if the Department of Justice or the Attorney General had tried to get him to stop.
    Lol. He was asked under oath. Wtf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Even so Trump said he fired Comey to try to stop the investigation. That's textbook obstruction of justice.

    Personal attacks are a forum no-no. Hope you aren't at forum vacation time!
    Pretty sure Trump said he fired him because he was terrible at his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trifle View Post
    I must have missed that one between all the stories about Comey's memo saying that Trump directly asked him to shut down the investigation...
    No, you just missed the one where Comey said that didnt happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Lol. He was asked under oath. Wtf.
    Feel free to provide a source of the question and answer then.

    It's ok, I can do that for you:

    HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

    COMEY: In theory yes.

    HIRONO: Has it happened?

    COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that — without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don’t see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I’m talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience.
    Sorry, where was the Trump reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerus View Post
    Feel free to provide a source of the question and answer then.

    It's ok, I can do that for you:
    You know the video. Youre just interpreting incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    You know the video. Youre just interpreting incorrectly.
    I just gave you the direct quote of the statement. Point out where it absolves Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerus View Post
    I just gave you the direct quote of the statement. Point out where it absolves Trump?
    Like I said, you misinterpret what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Like I said, you misinterpret what he says.
    So you can't. Got it. Thanks for playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Pretty sure Trump said he fired him because he was terrible at his job.
    Depends on which state of Trump's you want to believe.

    What we actually need is to get a hold of the Comey memos or verify that they don't exist.

    Also, you're "comey said it didn't happen" defense has a bit of a timeline issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Depends on which state of Trump's you want to believe.

    What we actually need is to get a hold of the Comey memos or verify that they don't exist.

    Also, you're "comey said it didn't happen" defense has a bit of a timeline issue.
    Well then it comes down to an FBI Directors word vs the POTUS word and that, well that is a pretty shitty thing to decide on who to believe. Trump said, Comey batter hope there arent any tapes. I hope there was because He said, He said for something like this wont be good and most likely will be thrown out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Oh boy, it's these Breitbart alternative "facts" again.
    Oh, jolly gee, youre so smart, how did you get so smart. Unfortunately for you there is video evidence. And Xerus also linked the testimony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Said by those who only know Trump.

    We had spies kicked out that resulted in a prisoner exchange:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

    Russia is building nuclear reactors in Iran, which Trump him self put on 2 travel bans due to their threat of terrorism (remember, not religion, the country):

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...-idUSKCN11G0EB

    So, according to Trump, they are building nuclear reactors for a country harboring and encouraging terrorism against US. They had spies kicked out, who were trying to covertly influence US politicians, which lead to a prisoner exchange... but, they stopped when Trump became president...
    They're building nuked and sped on us. Boohoo dude, we spy on them too. The us and the EU make them and are in poccess in of them as well. What Russia does is miniscule compared to middle Easterners, it makes even less sense why were allied and working with middle Easterners instead of Russia. We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Well then it comes down to an FBI Directors word vs the POTUS word and that, well that is a pretty shitty thing to decide on who to believe.
    Pretty sure a document trail written by the head of the FBI will far outweigh Trump going "nuh uh never happened."

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    Quote Originally Posted by want my Slimjim View Post
    We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.
    This pretty much says everything that needs to be said about the current state of the right wing. Hostile foreign governments interfering in our elections and paying high level government officials is "small things".

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    Quote Originally Posted by want my Slimjim View Post
    They're building nuked and sped on us. Boohoo dude, we spy on them too. The us and the EU make them and are in poccess in of them as well. What Russia does is miniscule compared to middle Easterners, it makes even less sense why were allied and working with middle Easterners instead of Russia. We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.
    Lol, what? Trying to undermine our democracy and install their preferred candidate is a small thing? What planet are you living on?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Lol. No, I didnt vote for Hillary. Good try. The reasons that I did not vote for Trump had nothing to do with me thinking that he was working in collusion with Russia. Nice try though...
    Now you are facing a problem. I never said you voted Hillary, it's not in text you quoted. I never said you didn't vote for Trump due to anything to do with Russia. The problem, unless you quote that which doesn't exist, is that this is showing your blind bias. If you see things that are not there, to conform to your opinion, then it's blatantly bias.

    Notice one more thing. I asked you repeatedly why you didn't vote for Trump, even ignoring the fact that you are completely wrong above, you still cannot do it. You still cannot say why you didn't vote for Trump. But, again, not Russian collusion as an event, but the reason you didn't vote for him, is the same reason there is so many issues with Trump's presidency. You knew there was something about Trump to not vote for him and I know that you refuse to say it, because you know that it justifies everything happening now. You for an unknown reason, that you refuse to state, no longer see the issue that prevented you from voting Trump.

    Oops?

    They story should just be, no evidence is found but it doesnt, it goes into stupid conspiracy theory BS. If you like stuff like tabloid headlining stories like that, then fine, but no, you are the one that isnt making sense if you cant wait for the actual investigation to close and whatever finding are presented.
    You just said that the articles clearly state there is no evidence. Your demand is literally fulfilled according to you, just 2 pages ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Stories like this are annoying because its based on nothing. Even the stories state, we have found zero evidence of collusion.
    Oops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by want my Slimjim View Post
    They're building nuked and sped on us. Boohoo dude, we spy on them too. The us and the EU make them and are in poccess in of them as well. What Russia does is miniscule compared to middle Easterners, it makes even less sense why were allied and working with middle Easterners instead of Russia. We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.
    This is not the opinion of the US Military or the US Intelligence community. You should inform them of your carefully researched and expertly generated findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Pretty sure a document trail written by the head of the FBI will far outweigh Trump going "nuh uh never happened."

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    This pretty much says everything that needs to be said about the current state of the right wing. Hostile foreign governments interfering in our elections and paying high level government officials is "small things".
    One side has a particular political philosophy and belief system that though it can be critiqued is grounded in reality. The other lives in batshit crazy fantasy land where up is down and down is up, and where if you are shown proof of otherwise the accepted approach is to place your fingers in your ears and close your eyes while screaming loudly.

    Guess which is which.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by want my Slimjim View Post
    They're building nuked and sped on us. Boohoo dude, we spy on them too. The us and the EU make them and are in poccess in of them as well. What Russia does is miniscule compared to middle Easterners, it makes even less sense why were allied and working with middle Easterners instead of Russia. We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.
    That was hard to read... I did make out that the middle easterners part... you just blatantly going to ignore Russia building nuclear reactors in Iran? The same Iran that is on both Trump's travel bans? Yeah, keeping swinging for those fences, at some point you'll realize that swing is just digging your own grave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    This is not the opinion of the US Military or the US Intelligence community. You should inform them of your carefully researched and expertly generated findings.
    How were you even able to read that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by want my Slimjim View Post
    We'd have world peace by now if we cooperated with Russia instead of having a hissy fit with them over small things.
    That's a god damn adorable sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That's a god damn adorable sentiment.
    Statement that no one said until Trump...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya
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