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    Thumbs up Wargaming downfall



    Havent seen any1 posting abaut it yet. So i gathered a few things:
    *it all started by a youtuber who got banned for speaking his mind abauth something (yeah russans dont like free speach in that case. no offense)
    *his response: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTank...p_some_things/
    http://i.imgur.com/8EE18s0.png
    http://i.imgur.com/2MQzGuv.png
    *modelator response
    http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.p...#entry14297446

    *some old employies started leaking stuff
    http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/27/h...n-war-thunder/

    This is gona be good . Never liked that company.

    (dont put this under video game -- since this is a company dirty practice)
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    (yeah russans dont like free speach in that case. no offense)
    Didn't watch the video. Just want to point out that Wargaming is not a Russian company.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    Didn't watch the video. Just want to point out that Wargaming is not a Russian company.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargaming_(company)

    Best Game Developer Award at GDC Russia 2009
    Its Belarus, but its same pretty much (as for language).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargaming_(company)

    Best Game Developer Award at GDC Russia 2009
    Its Belarus, but its same pretty much (as for language).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus
    Case in point, it's not Russian. So if you want to bash a nation - bash Belarus.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    Didn't watch the video. Just want to point out that Wargaming is not a Russian company.
    It's a Belorussian company and belo means white not that I understand what makes Belorussia any whiter than the other Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    It's a Belorussian company and belo means white not that I understand what makes Belorussia any whiter than the other Russia.
    History, obviously.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Ugh hope they get on track, it's my father main game beside path of exile. Finding games for the old man is a damn pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    Case in point, it's not Russian. So if you want to bash a nation - bash Belarus.
    Thats not a nation bashing thread. So leave and keep on topic.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post


    Havent seen any1 posting abaut it yet. So i gathered a few things:
    *it all started by a youtuber who got banned for speaking his mind abauth something (yeah russans dont like free speach in that case. no offense)
    *his response: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTank...p_some_things/
    http://i.imgur.com/8EE18s0.png
    http://i.imgur.com/2MQzGuv.png
    *modelator response
    http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.p...#entry14297446

    *some old employies started leaking stuff
    http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/27/h...n-war-thunder/

    This is gona be good . Never liked that company.

    (dont put this under video game -- since this is a company dirty practice)
    So...some whiny twat, who doesn't understand how a freemium game works, makes a video, about a guy who talks smack about said companies new moneymaker and gets his wrist slapped for it, then you, continuing the idiocy, make a post, about the guy who made the retard video about the guy who talked the smack and expect anyone to give a shit? Makes sense....

    I'll lump you in with the same asshats who shout "WoW is dying" every 20 minutes, since that's around your intelligence level. Also, Wargaming is not Russian, at least be accurate with your nation bashing bigotry.

    You also need to learn basic spelling, or how to right click on a word and let your computer do it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Thats not a nation bashing thread. So leave and keep on topic.
    The nation bashing is in the OP, and thus I'm on topic.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peskre View Post
    Ugh hope they get on track, it's my father main game beside path of exile. Finding games for the old man is a damn pain.
    If I knew what I know today when I first played the game then I would have bought the KV-220-2 and then not spent another single penny on the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    If I knew what I know today when I first played the game I would have bought the KV-220-2 and then not spent another single penny on the game.
    The tanks in that game are expensive as hell i never got into it because of the gold ammo stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    So...some whiny twat, who doesn't understand how a freemium game works, makes a video, about a guy who talks smack about said companies new moneymaker and gets his wrist slapped for it, then you, continuing the idiocy, make a post, about the guy who made the retard video about the guy who talked the smack and expect anyone to give a shit? Makes sense....

    I'll lump you in with the same asshats who shout "WoW is dying" every 20 minutes, since that's around your intelligence level. Also, Wargaming is not Russian, at least be accurate with your nation bashing bigotry.

    You also need to learn basic spelling, or how to right click on a word and let your computer do it for you.
    Its way more deeper as you may understand.
    Its a case of cenzorship, where company on purpose blocks someone to save money.

    And if you checked last link, you can clearly see that this company breaks so many laws that is un-belivable.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabotage
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ompetition_law

    Article 102

    (ex Article 82 TEC)

    Any abuse by one or more undertakings of a dominant position within the internal market or in a substantial part of it shall be prohibited as incompatible with the internal market in so far as it may affect trade between Member States.

    Such abuse may, in particular, consist in:

    (a) directly or indirectly imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading conditions;

    (b) limiting production, markets or technical development to the prejudice of consumers;

    (c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;

    (d) making the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Update:
    https://image.prntscr.com/image/c386...b016ab9b24.png
    http://i.imgur.com/xXhOqJH.png

    Here is the original video on facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/WorldofTank...c_location=ufi
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    What's with the Russophobia in the OP?

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    Didn't the company, making Warthunder do the same thing essentially?
    And it should be noted, that WG Russia, WG EU, and WG US are more or less independet, don't communicate with each other, and everyone is doing their own shit. From what I have heard, WG (RU) is handing out claims and strikes far more frequently.
    Last edited by josykay; 2017-05-19 at 11:00 PM.

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    Is World of Tanks really that far removed from World of Warships? I play WoWs and they don't really have any p2w content on the premium shop, the way the game plays pretty much all ships can be blown out of the water instantly for a mistake, so what's the difference between the 2 games that makes p2w a thing on WoT? Is it just a lower skill cap game that a better tank makes that much of a difference?

    Not to mention premium consumables in WoWs can be paid for with in-game currency, not paid for currency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Its way more deeper as you may understand.
    Its a case of cenzorship, where company on purpose blocks someone to save money.

    And if you checked last link, you can clearly see that this company breaks so many laws that is un-belivable.
    Any lawsuits filed yet? Any arrest made?

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    Seems like a bunch of stupid fucking non-drama.

    So guy was part of a content creator program in which he got early/special access to shit. Despite making some less than friendly videos as part of this program, he was kept in it. Finally crossed the line in terms of his content and got yanked from the program, and they asked him to take down his video.

    Did I miss something? Because if that's the long and short of it, I fail to see any of the drama.
    Last edited by Edge-; 2017-05-20 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFuu View Post
    Is World of Tanks really that far removed from World of Warships? I play WoWs and they don't really have any p2w content on the premium shop, the way the game plays pretty much all ships can be blown out of the water instantly for a mistake, so what's the difference between the 2 games that makes p2w a thing on WoT? Is it just a lower skill cap game that a better tank makes that much of a difference?

    Not to mention premium consumables in WoWs can be paid for with in-game currency, not paid for currency.
    Their original philosophy on premium tanks was better than stock configuration but worse than elite tech tree tanks. The particular tanks they have been releasing lately, like the Chrysler K that appeared in the video, are not just better than tech tree tanks but significantly so. They have better armor, better gun statistics, are faster, and the Chrysler K in particular while shooting the exact same premium rounds as the tech tree equivalent with the same gun does more penetration for no apparent reason while also shooting faster, aiming faster, accelerating faster and turning quicker, and having better armor to the point of being able to ignore pretty much all in tier guns and a lot of higher tier guns. Another tank they released not long ago the Object 252U is a tier 8 premium that has armor on par with T10 tanks.

    The benefit of premium tanks before was they made more money but weren't better than normal tanks. Now they're getting to just be better tanks in any conceivable and make more money effectively making them pay to win tanks.

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    While the actions were terrible by WG, I think/hope most people decide whether to play a game based on the game itself and pro or anti forum posting. War Thunder was 100x better game than WoWp. WoWp was an arcade-y poorly conceived mess and a massive disappointment, whereas War Thunder was an excellent game. I didn't like what they eventually did in War Thunder with the progression/grind/skill trees, and shifting it to less realism and more casual to appeal to a wider audience. It's not bad currently, but definitely not as good as it was earlier on. So regardless of any attempts by WG, it didn't really work since WoWp faded into irrelevance as it should have and War Thunder has done well.

    I would also agree with the comments on WoT and p2w. World of Warships isn't nearly as p2w and you can definitely grind it out. In fact the "gold" purchased ships are generally just shortcuts up a tree, or better looking cosmetically. WoT on the other hand has some pretty overpowered "gold" purchased tanks that give you a good advantage that you can see in your stats over tanks that you can freely grind. Not that there aren't some decent tanks you can grind because there are. But for sure WoT is much more p2w than WoWs.

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