Seth Rich had contact with wiki leaks before murder

[Reclaimer]

Huh, Seth Rich doesn't sound like a Russian name.... Ohh wait, it's because he was an American citizen. Not only that but he was also a DNC chairman that just so happened to be murdered shortly after the DNC and Podesta emails were hacked and leaked. As of late Monday night a separate investigation into Rich's death by the DC police found that Seth Rich was in close contact with WikiLeaks days leading up to his murder. They also found on his computer the hacked and leaked emails that Russia has been blamed for for the past ten months. Also investigates have noted that people within the DNC and Hillary Clinton team have tried to stifle the investigation into Rich's murder. I suppose we can add another name to the Clinton kill list. I suppose as well we can assume that Russia really didn't interfer with the election. If you listen closely you can hear liberal heads exploding​ simultaneously.

[Orbitus]

Huh, Seth Rich doesn't sound like a Russian name.... Ohh wait, it's because he was an American citizen. Not only that but he was also a DNC chairman that just so happened to be murdered shortly after the DNC and Podesta emails were hacked and leaked. As of late Monday night a separate investigation into Rich's death by the DC police found that Seth Rich was in close contact with WikiLeaks days leading up to his murder. They also found on his computer the hacked and leaked emails that Russia has been blamed for for the past ten months. Also investigates have noted that people within the DNC and Hillary Clinton team have tried to stifle the investigation into Rich's murder. I suppose we can add another name to the Clinton kill list. I suppose as well we can assume that Russia really didn't interfer with the election. If you listen closely you can hear liberal heads exploding​ simultaneously.

First off, Assange is the only one that claims that Rich was his source. Wheeler also has no evidence to support his claims. I will go with the 17 intelligence agencies over Wikileaks and Assange and a Trump puppet.

Secondly, we don't know if his murder is connected to him being part of the DNC or the leak.

Thirdly, your story that they found a laptop with the emails is fucking hilarious. Especially since is is fucking unproven http://www.snopes.com/seth-rich-dnc-wikileaks-murder/ Going to go with Snopes on this one over Fox News.

Fourth, where is your evidence that the DNC and Clinton team stifled the investigation? The only places that I see, are from Reddit, not really a bastion of truth there, and fucking conspiracy sites like WND and fucking blogs.

Fifth, THERE IS NO CLINTON KILL LIST. There is absolutely ZERO EVIDENCE that links any one of these dead people to the Clintons. Otherwise there would be investigations, and most likely convictions. The conspiracy sites favorite poster child for this "kill list" was Vince Foster. There are still people claiming there was 2 bullet holes in the back of his head. That Trey Gowdy issued his body be exhumed to investigate further. And that there was another Clinton staffer underneath his casket. There was 3 independent autopsies into Foster, all of them ruled it a suicide. Including one done by Kenneth Starr(The guy that tried to take down Bill Clinton). Gowdy didn't exhume the body, so then the other body was never found.

That is how retarded your argument is, NOTHING BUT PURE HORSESHIT CONSPIRACY THEORIES, that have all been debunked rather easily. Thanks for being fucking gullible though.

[Etselion]

Low energy attempt of diversion.

Sad.

[Burgerberg]

First off, Assange is the only one that claims that Rich was his source.

He never claimed anything of the sort.

[ati87]

In DC it does happen...could have been an attempted robbery...

That being said, I don't know why people are dismissing the story outright (even if the details since the original story might be questionable). The circumstances were suspicious given the timing and Assange keeps hinting that he contacted WikiLeaks, even if Assange isn't necessarily credible himself...if he didn't then Assange needs to stop trying to muddy political waters for personal gain.

It's being dismissed because the only evidence they provide for their claim is ....................................................................

This is like that South park eps where they mocked Thor, Thanksgiving and Discovery Channel by being highly speculative without backing anything up. Difference between this and Pizzafreakinggate is that somebody really did die

[Orbitus]

He never claimed anything of the sort.

He basically said everything but that he was literally the one that was the fucking leak. You know, offering the money for a reward for information to his death.

[shoc]

Picking this thread back up because of today's development.

4chan's /pol/ found Seth Rich's Social Media accounts.

Political Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Pandas4Bernie
Personal Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/meGrimlock4
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/panda4progress/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/panda4progress/

To further confirm that Seth Rich is the Panda, here's some articles referencing his love for Pandas.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/seth-rich...n-high-school/

“We are here today to remember a young man who loved his family, his community and his faith. A young man who believed in our country, who believed that our best days as a nation are still in our future. A man who was willing to wear a panda outfit or dress up in red, white and blue when the time called for it. And perhaps most importantly, a man who believed that everyone in our country, no matter their economics, religion or the color of their skin had the right to vote.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ks-source.html

Seth Rich was director of voter expansion for the DNC – and often called his father to have him try out new software he was developing. He was known to keep a night-owl schedule and also for his quirky sense of humor in the office.

Joel Rich said: 'He liked pandas and his mother had sent him a little stuffed panda that got named Bamboo.

'At the DNC, they would hide the panda - it would be in someone's office, and on filing cabinet.

'When they packed up and sent us the things from his cubicle, his one boss asked that Bamboo the panda stay there.

'When they went to the Democrat convention, they took Bamboo with them, and they sent out selfies of Bamboo listening to Secretary Clinton. Bamboo will still be at the parties and things.'

As you can see from his social media postings, he was a pretty enthusiastic Bernie Sanders supporter.
The most damning find is this image, that Seth Rich published to reddit the day before he was murdered.




He says some pretty negative things about Hillary Clinton, which contradicts the claim from his family that he was excited to work for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Seth was murdered on July 10th, WikiLeaks didn't publish the leaked DNC emails until July 22.

Seth posted his manifesto 13 days before the DNC emails were made public by WikiLeaks, why would he be calling Hillary 'the one who betrayed us'? The world wouldn't know of the DNC collusion against Bernie Sanders, an act that would cause Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to resign, and arguably cost Clinton the election, for nearly 2 more weeks. The only thing damaging her reputation at this point was her misuse of her personal email server, which was cleared by FBI Director Comey on July 5th.

The only reasonable explanation for this in my opinion this is if Seth was the DNC leaker, and he was preparing to become the next Edward Snowden, to capitalize on the damaging emails to help Bernie win the Nomination and ultimately the Presidency. The DNC killed Seth Rich to prevent the rise of the Panda, an undoubtedly powerful anti-Clinton activist.

[mvaliz]

Honestly, I'd find it more likely that Russia had him killed just to frame the DNC than Hillary or anybody to do it. It's more Russia's style, not the DNC to order "hits".

Also, is this thread created to actually talk about something - or is it just a safe space for the Dumpster Snowflakes to group cry together while remembering the good ol' days of when their hatred meant something?

[shoc]

Honestly, I'd find it more likely that Russia had him killed just to frame the DNC than Hillary or anybody to do it. It's more Russia's style, not the DNC to order "hits".

Also, is this thread created to actually talk about something - or is it just a safe space for the Dumpster Snowflakes to group cry together while remembering the good ol' days of when their hatred meant something?

How would the Russians know about Seth? Russia interfering with the US Election wouldn't become a narrative for nearly 2 weeks after he was murdered. Prior to the WikiLeaks DNC leak, not a single US politician uttered the word 'Russia collusion'. The chronology of the allegation that Seth was killed by Russians doesn't make any sense.

If you think we should make a new Seth Rich thread I can. If this one is getting too one-sided. But as a Bernie Sanders supporter I don't think the Seth Rich case is a partisan issue. He leaked the DNC emails and was killed for it, this has nothing to do with Trump.

[NED funded]

Picking this thread back up because of today's development.

4chan's /pol/ found Seth Rich's Social Media accounts.

Political Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Pandas4Bernie
Personal Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/meGrimlock4
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/panda4progress/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/panda4progress/

To further confirm that Seth Rich is the Panda, here's some articles referencing his love for Pandas.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/seth-rich...n-high-school/



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ks-source.html




As you can see from his social media postings, he was a pretty enthusiastic Bernie Sanders supporter.
The most damning find is this image, that Seth Rich published to reddit the day before he was murdered.




He says some pretty negative things about Hillary Clinton, which contradicts the claim from his family that he was excited to work for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Seth was murdered on July 10th, WikiLeaks didn't publish the leaked DNC emails until July 22.

Seth posted his manifesto 13 days before the DNC emails were made public by WikiLeaks, why would he be calling Hillary 'the one who betrayed us'? The world wouldn't know of the DNC collusion against Bernie Sanders, an act that would cause Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to resign, and arguably cost Clinton the election, for nearly 2 more weeks. The only thing damaging her reputation at this point was her misuse of her personal email server, which was cleared by FBI Director Comey on July 5th.

The only reasonable explanation for this in my opinion this is if Seth was the DNC leaker, and he was preparing to become the next Edward Snowden, to capitalize on the damaging emails to help Bernie win the Nomination and ultimately the Presidency. The DNC killed Seth Rich to prevent the rise of the Panda, an undoubtedly powerful anti-Clinton activist.

Assuming any of this has some validity.

The whole "The DNC betrayed us" narrative predates the leaks. It was mainly used to refer the whole kerfuffle about people not being able to vote, media blackouts, etc.

[Vyuvarax]

In DC it does happen...could have been an attempted robbery...

That being said, I don't know why people are dismissing the story outright (even if the details since the original story might be questionable). The circumstances were suspicious given the timing and Assange keeps hinting that he contacted WikiLeaks, even if Assange isn't necessarily credible himself...if he didn't then Assange needs to stop trying to muddy political waters for personal gain.

Not dismissing stories that have questionable or contradictory accounts, like the investigator claiming his source is the news and the news saying their source is the investigator, is exactly what makes this a conspiracy theory and not grounded in anything real. Kooky thinking like this is the shame of America.

[ge0]

Says he has sources that have confirmed the link so I think there is more to it than just conspiracy theory.



I find it odd though that this comes out on a bad day for Trump in the press

every day is a bad day for Trump in the press.

[shoc]

Assuming any of this has some validity.

The whole "The DNC betrayed us" narrative predates the leaks. It was mainly used to refer the whole kerfuffle about people not being able to vote, media blackouts, etc.

Considering https://www.instagram.com/panda4progress/ literally has his name on it, I think the fact that the accounts belong to him are pretty conclusive, also considering none of them have posted since, you know, he died.

[mvaliz]

How would the Russians know about Seth? Russia interfering with the US Election wouldn't become a narrative for nearly 2 weeks after he was murdered. Prior to the WikiLeaks DNC leak, not a single US politician uttered the word 'Russia collusion'. The chronology of the allegation that Seth was killed by Russians doesn't make any sense.

Ummmm... the US department of homeland security have said, via their investigations, that it was Russia who passed the leaks to Wikkileaks, remember?

They didn't just start up their shit on the day people started talking about/finding out about them, you know that - right?

[Lenonis]

The only reasonable explanation for this

That is in no way shape or form the only reasonable explanation for this. In fact it defies reason as it requires ignoring evidence to the contrary -- IE -- the entire US intelligence community for starters.

[Vyuvarax]

I think the fact that the accounts belong to him are pretty conclusive, also considering none of them have posted since, you know, he died.

Its not conclusive. The Pandas4Bernie account has no connection to him. Your case falls apart extremely quickly for being conclusive.

[Celista]

Not dismissing stories that have questionable or contradictory accounts, like the investigator claiming his source is the news and the news saying their source is the investigator, is exactly what makes this a conspiracy theory and not grounded in anything real. Kooky thinking like this is the shame of America.

Note my commentary about the murder itself and not the investigator.

[shoc]

I think if the story were flipped upside down, people would be singing a very different tune. How do you think people would be reacting if the incident went as follows:

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On July 10th, GOP Data Analyst Sasha Ruth is murdered while walking home, in a botched robbery, despite the fact that nothing is taken. There are no witnesses, and D.C. Police close the case. Sasha Ruth's father signs a contract with a private investigator, hiring him to investigate her death, while her brother starts a crowdfunding campaign to finance the investigation. WikiLeaks offers a $20,000 dollar reward for information pertaining to her murder, which sparks conspiracy theories suggesting that she is a whistleblower. Fox News dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory'.

On July 22, WikiLeaks publishes 33,532 emails from the Trump Campaign, that reveals collusion between Russian diplomats and the Republican Party, and the revelation that Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Ben Carson were never going to be allowed to win the Primary from the get-go. Fox News and the Trump Campaign immediately blames the Saudi Arabian Government for hacking into their email server, while the Clinton Campaign and CNN maintains that there is no evidence to suggest that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had any involvement.

Following the revelation, Reince Priebus resigns from his post as head of the Republican National Committee.

The scandal costs Donald Trump the election, and Hillary Clinton handily becomes the President of the United States.

Months later, CNN reports on the results of the private investigation, finding that Sasha Ruth was in contact with WikiLeaks shortly before her death, suggesting that she was the GOP leaker, and that the Saudi Arabia hacking narrative was pure fiction. Fox News immediately dismisses the case as a conspiracy theory again, and does not report on it again. The Ruth family spokesperson, who turns out to be a Trump Organization PR consultant, also dismisses the case as a 'mere conspiracy theory' and condemns Fox News for disrespecting her legacy.

Days later, members of reddit.com/r/politics discover Sasha Ruth's social media accounts. Based on her post history, she appears to a very vocal Marco Rubio supporter, and has published many informational graphics promoting Marco's platform. She also publishes very vocal anti-Russian political viewpoints, going so far as to call Trump and the GOP 'traitors to America' due their collusion with the Russians in her manifesto, published just one day before her death.

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If the above were the scenario we were dealing with, what would you believe?

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Its not conclusive. The Pandas4Bernie account has no connection to him. Your case falls apart extremely quickly for being conclusive.

What part of this isn't conclusive?

[Bdatik]

What part of this isn't conclusive?

What part is conclusive evidence that the above Instagram profile belongs to the Seth Rich that was killed?

[shoc]

What part is conclusive evidence that the above Instagram profile belongs to the Seth Rich that was killed?

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/seth-rich...n-high-school/

"There are no answers for a young man gunned down in the prime of his life. All we have is questions of what could have been, what should have been and talk of potential greatness for which we will never bear witness. Yet in only 27 years, Seth Rich made a difference in the lives of many, and we honor his memory this morning,” he said. “We are here today to remember a young man who loved his family, his community and his faith. A young man who believed in our country, who believed that our best days as a nation are still in our future. A man who was willing to wear a panda outfit or dress up in red, white and blue when the time called for it. And perhaps most importantly, a man who believed that everyone in our country, no matter their economics, religion or the color of their skin had the right to vote."

So... we have an Instagram account that belongs to a person named Seth Rich, in which the profile picture is a man wearing a Panda costume, and we know from reports about Seth that he had a penchant for Panda costumes.

And his former boss made this tweet back in April:



And in an interview with his family, they have a stuffed panda at their side:

And a friend of his tweeted a photo of him in his memory, and other friend tweeted @Panda4progress as well.

https://twitter.com/sonjatrier/statu...15853308325888



But you're right, this could easily be a coincidence, I'm sure there are many people out there named Seth Rich who go by the handle of panda4progress, and stop posting online around the same time our Seth Rich was murdered .