Would you consider an open relationship?

[Sky High]

Well I see I'm not going to change anyone's mind in here about how idiotic it is to be a cuck. I guess that is what men today are. They'd rather watch porn or see their own girl getting banged by some other dude and masturbate to it, then go out and be a stud. Go ahead and massage your noodle while a real alpha gives your woman what she can not get from you. I'll be out there, studying game, being alpha. I'm out.

I'm sure you would pretty boy, probably be passed around by a few at least.

[Firefall]

I'm curious about the 21% who voted yes, I've barely seen any comments from them.

Don't be shy, tell us about it!

I mentioned I'm semi-open but generally non-heteronormative because I'm not into intercourse-based sex. I value that I can pursue activities I enjoy that my GF might not be enthusiastic about with other people. She's also more of a strict sub and I've been exploring my switchy side. She's used it before to try activities I wouldn't feel safe doing myself, such as fire play.

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Well I see I'm not going to change anyone's mind in here about how idiotic it is to be a cuck. I guess that is what men today are. They'd rather watch porn or see their own girl getting banged by some other dude and masturbate to it, than go out and be a stud instead. Go ahead and massage your noodle while a real alpha gives your woman what she can not get from you. I'll be out there, studying game, being alpha. I'm out.

At this point I'm either assuming you're a troll, or have too little exposure to BDSM and non-heteronormative relationships to understand that there's people who like doing sex things and are okay talking about how to be happy sexually with their partners.

Also, humans do not have alphas and betas, lol.

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I mentioned I'm semi-open but generally non-heteronormative because I'm not into intercourse-bssed sex. I value that I can pursue activities I enjoy that my GF might not be enthusiastic about with other people. She's also more of a strict sub and I've been exploring my switchy side. She's used it before to try activities I wouldn't feel safe doing myself, such as fire play.

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At this point I'm either assuming you're a troll, or have too little exposure to BDSM and non-heteronormative relationships to understand that there's people who like doing sex things and are okay talking about how to be happy sexually with their partners.

Also, humans do not have alphas and betas, lol.

Aah, I did read that now that I think back. Great ^^ I'm far more vanilla I, candlelight wax or strawberries in whipped cream pwould be more my sort of thing lol.

[Deleted]

There is no such thing as Open Relationship(for me at least). Sex buddies? Yep.

[Mehrunes]

I'm not even sure what you're arguing because looking over your posts we seem to be on the same side? You can tone down the hostility o_0

I'm arguing that the guy being a creep or not is inconsequential to why I posted the article and doesn't reflect on whether or not it's a bad article to link (though admittedly, it was the first article from somewhat reputable source that was about Tinder values, due to Tinder's more casual sex-oriented nature, since data from more traditional dating sites, which is just as skewed in favor of women, may not be perfectly applicable to casual sex) and that from the context of the discussion it's obvious due to which part of the article did I link it (the part about general trends and the like). And what hostility?

Well I see I'm not going to change anyone's mind in here about how idiotic it is to be a cuck. I guess that is what men today are. They'd rather watch porn or see their own girl getting banged by some other dude and masturbate to it, than go out and be a stud instead. Go ahead and massage your noodle while a real alpha gives your woman what she can not get from you. I'll be out there, studying game, being alpha. I'm out.

Here's your anthem

All of my wat.

Also, speaking of anthems, all this talk of studs and alphas made me think of this for some reason:

[Freighter]

Where the hell did I say it's the women that overrepresent in this category? How the hell does that translate to ease in the context of my arguments about unequal distribution of the genders? Of course it's the men that overrepresent in this category (a sentiment expressed by another woman in this thread as well). Again, difference in frequency of approaching the other gender. Or things like women getting boatloads more messages on Tinder. So women seeking only sex have a larger pool of men seeking only sex to choose from, while men have to compete against each other, which in turn results in more difficulty for them on average.

Pretty individual how many matches(or messages) you get since it depends on your standards, both have to swipe right to match on tinder. I barely get any at all when I tried it while someone who would swipe right on every man would get more than they can even talk to.

[May90]

I really couldn't care less about traditional values. I would easily consider a relationship with 5 zerglings and 20 intelligent octopuses from Messier 81 galaxy at the same time, with an open room for 100 AIs!

[Xenryusho]

Hell no /10char.

[Firefall]

Aah, I did read that now that I think back. Great ^^ I'm far more vanilla I, candlelight wax or strawberries in whipped cream pwould be more my sort of thing lol.

Hah, yeah. And to each their own, I dont have much of a drive for vanilla sex but everyone is allowed to enjoy what they enjoy.

It's pretty common to be some level of open in the BDSM community, because we have play parties and such. Usually there's social areas that are like a normal party (no alcohol allowed, though) and then a dungeon area where you can do scenes with people. Many people come to a party already knowing who they are going to play with, some are in monogamous relationships. It's surprisingly chill and not like an orgy or anything lol, but lends itself to wanting to try things with more than one person.

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Hah, yeah. And to each their own, I dont have much of a drive for vanilla sex but everyone is allowed to enjoy what they enjoy.

It's pretty common to be some level of open in the BDSM community, because we have play parties and such. Usually there's social areas that are like a normal party (no alcohol allowed, though) and then a dungeon area where you can do scenes with people. Many people come to a party already knowing who they are going to play with, some are in monogamous relationships. It's surprisingly chill and not like an orgy or anything lol, but lends itself to wanting to try things with more than one person.

So what I wonder, is it more of a creative play of bodies and dominance or is arousal (and orgasm) an important element too?

It's one of those things I'd rather watch out of fascination than participate "because oh so hot right now".

[Shadowferal]

Hmf...open relationships don't last...
Temporary things are easy.
Something that lasts however, takes work.

[Deleted]

This is absurd. How do you not understand that if women are pickier than men on average, it will inevitably lead to more women than men having sex on average? It is literally impossible unless you also suggest that somehow the average men is also on average more attractive than the same average man, or the reverse being true for women.

Isnt it more intricate than this? Men on average have higher libidos and will seek out sexual encounters or take more sexual initiative in relationships too.

[Azadina]

This is absurd. How do you not understand that if women are pickier than men on average, it will inevitably lead to more women than men having sex on average? It is literally impossible unless you also suggest that somehow the average men is also on average more attractive than the same average man, or the reverse being true for women.

Yes, it is absurd. Western world is not a caliphate where select men have vast harems of women, leaving nothing for the rest. Not even multiple wives concept is really a thing. You know this right?

Now, in reality, it all evens out, despite some wanting to complain otherwise.

[Mehrunes]

Yes, it is absurd. Western world is not a caliphate where select men have vast harems of women, leaving nothing for the rest. Not even multiple wives concept is really a thing. You know this right?

Now, in reality, it all evens out, despite some wanting to complain otherwise.

Today on "adventures with straw".

[Azadina]

Today on "adventures with straw".

More exciting than constant Trump news.

[Firefall]

So what I wonder, is it more of a creative play of bodies and dominance or is arousal (and orgasm) an important element too?

It's one of those things I'd rather watch out of fascination than participate "because oh so hot right now".

Both, sometimes at the same time, sometimes not.

Some groups in some places have rules for what you can and can't do at a party; the group I primarily participate in allows full on sex at parties and places very few limits on activities.

I've personally never had an orgasm while at a party but usually give my GF at least one. A lot of people don't do things that mix fluids; we're very aware of safer sex precautions and transmission rates are (perhaps surprisingly) lower than the general population.

Voyeurism is definitely part of the enjoyment for many people. Some things can be genuinely artistic and creative as well, like shibari rope bondage or fancy Florentine flogging (dual wielding with floggers). It's fun to share skills like these that are things you actually have to learn, and can learn most safely by being taught by someone.

So definitely both, varying by the people involved. Sometimes it can be art, sometimes sexual, sometimes both, haha.

[Fencers]

Yes, I have been in several open relationships in the past. My husband and I had an open marriage for awhile before we mutually decided on children. They all worked out great.

Having a liked minded partner, lots of discussion and mutual maturity are needed for it to work though.

[Theoris]

Nah, not my thing.

[Noradin]

I am saying that in order for woman to have sex with man, a man would seem like a requirement. How do you count it when woman and man have sex? 2 sex points for woman, and 1 for the man, or what? If all men have it so very difficult to find sex, then how are the women finding anyone either?

Maybe he lives on an island with one (probably imaginary) woman and hundreds of men?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

I wouldn't want to be a part of it.

It's about what you expect from a relationship. For some people, sexual intercourse is a typical, pleasurable activity. Relationship can be proven otherwise, through dedication, stability and investment. For others, it's about bonding deeper with your partner. Understanding that there is nothing that can bind two humans together than the chemicals released by your brain during passionate intercourse. There's also some people who have a little bit of both, of course.

To me, it's the purest form of bonding. Nothing else can strengthen the relationship as much as giving up everything else for a few hours and live in a dedicated cocoon with a single other individual. It's perhaps cheesy, but it's how I see it. To have an open relationship seems, in my own life, to be a betrayal of the bond you're building with your partner.

Obviously not everyone share that view and I have absolutley no issues with people in open relationships at all.