2 explosions in Manchester Arena - CONFIRMED Fatalities.

[GennGreymane]

nah we'll give them sharia law in europe.. make islam religion of EU it will be fine

Oh yes, lets ignore the fact the west basically funds, arms, and trains these groups that end up recruiting people to do this shit. Dont worry, the people who you will vote for to "end this evil" will continue to do what the west has been doing for decades.

[meumaxu]

Well let more radical imigrants inside UK... they are loving the way they could plan thos attacks without being bothered cause they are "poor imigrants that deserve love"

[Ianus]

Oh yes, lets ignore the fact the west basically funds, arms, and trains these groups that end up recruiting people to do this shit. Dont worry, the people who you will vote for to "end this evil" will continue to do what the west has been doing for decades.

i love your hyperbole syndrome

[Khaza-R]

i love your hyperbole syndrome

He's not wrong though. That is exactly what happened in Syria

[GennGreymane]

i love your hyperbole syndrome

Nah, I just don't ignore the facts. The west will continue to arm/fund/train terrorist groups. People have yet to vote against it.

[Ianus]

Nah, I just don't ignore the facts. The west will continue to arm/fund/train terrorist groups. People have yet to vote against it.

who said i disagree i aint even american just stating the fact how you connect the hyperbole to gain advantage...

[King Shark]

i love your hyperbole syndrome

Donald Trump just made a 100 billion dollar arms deal with the country that 15 out of the 19 terrorists responsible for September 11th were born from. Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria; where the fuck do you think they got all their shit from? Ebay?

[Deleted]

So what we going for? I'm going for :

18-29 year old male, CONVERT, known to security services, criminal history, homegrown.

[GennGreymane]

who said i disagree i aint even american just stating the fact how you connect the hyperbole to gain advantage...

What advantage? I aint the one who will end up mobbing up against random people because people in government like to keep terrorist groups around to keep themselves in power via fear.

[cubby]

Can we reign this in a bit and get back on topic. Looks like they haven't confirmed source/cause yet, but obviously still relatively "just happened". Not sure how it could be anything but an attack - although gas line explosion could account for destructive force. I would think that they would see that right away from gas monitoring though.

[sarahtasher]

Well let more radical imigrants inside UK... they are loving the way they could plan thos attacks without being bothered cause they are "poor imigrants that deserve love"

In the immense majority of recent attacks, the culprit is a Muslim...born in Europe decades ago or at very least installed in Europe long before the rise of ISIS-French terrorists were Moroccans or Algerians, not Syrians.

[Nehezbegar]

In the immense majority of recent attacks, the culprit is a Muslim...born in Europe decades ago or at very least installed in Europe long before the rise of ISIS-French terrorists were Moroccans or Algerians, not Syrians.

So imagine the kids of current immigrants (which will be much much more) in a long time will do in 20-30 years ?

[Ianus]

What advantage? I aint the one who will end up mobbing up against random people because people in government like to keep terrorist groups around to keep themselves in power via fear.

i live eu and my country didnt arm isis calling them moderate opposition us did, obama did.. and you are saying that i have supported it somehow

[sarahtasher]

Dont worry, the US/allies will continue random bombings of Syria and other middle eastern countries. This will continue a cycle of radicalization that will spread through the internet to recruit others. Wait.....

Thanks to the Saudi ineptness, the bombs they are dropping on anything except the Houthis rebels are not only build by Americans, but dropped by aircraft maintained by Americans, fuelled by Americans, with people ''trained'' by Americans using American strategic imagery. All this, FTR, while it was Saudis who attacked Americans, not Yemenis.

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So imagine the kids of current immigrants (which will be much much more) in a long time will do in 20-30 years ?

Even if exactly zero muslims had been allowed in France since 2001, there would still have been terrorists attacks. No amount of vetting prevent people already born there to act.

[GennGreymane]

i live eu and my country didnt arm isis calling them moderate opposition us did, obama did

Isis has been around for decades? You think this is new? Is your country involved in NATO? Do they usually support the US

[Ianus]

Isis has been around for decades? You think this is new? Is your country involved in NATO? Do they usually support the US

US supported arab spring so its their own fault.. my country didnt supported it by arms or by decisions nor it had a say in it

[GennGreymane]

US supported arab spring so its their own fault.. my country didnt supported it by arms or by decisions nor it had a say in it

So the UK, France, Germany and a couple of others who also supported it are not at fault?

[Ianus]

Isis has been around for decades? You think this is new? Is your country involved in NATO? Do they usually support the US

and they do attacks in eu not US because there islarge muslim communities that preach vehabism..while eu liberals are blind there wont success in fighting them

[PC2]

Even if exactly zero muslims had been allowed in France since 2001, there would still have been terrorists attacks. No amount of vetting prevent people already born there to act.

Vetting for Islamism would help prevent them from being there in the first place. Making it harder for them to pass on their Islamist ideology to Western born kids.

[Ianus]

So the UK, France, Germany and a couple of others who also supported it are not at fault?

i aint in those countries so i dont give fuck.. if you ask me about their tolerance and blindess.. in my country if something like this happened once there would be mass deportation.. because its not muslim that came as refugee most of the time but 3-4th generation that lives there 150 years and they "assimilated"