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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Raego View Post
    After DAI and MEA, how can anyone still expect a good game from bioware...
    Some people liked Dragon Age Inquisition and I don't think it's the same team as ME.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Ugh, yes. Try to build Cole as a melee assassin, which literally all of his specialist skills revolve around, only to have the AI not know how to do stealth--->Ambush--->Retreat--->Restealth--->Ambush and die in every fight you don't steamroll was so frustrating.
    Thats why you don't use Cole lol, Bull tank, Varric ranged DPS, and Dorian healing is the way to win, plus you get the added bonus of some of the best banter in the game haha

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    A proper tactics system like origins instead the simplified horseshit they gave us from there on.
    But also companions that function well on their own for those who don't want to micromanage when they get up in the morning and where they take a shit.

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    I love the smell of overhype.

    Seriously... You cling in hope, that new DA, will got all good aspects of previous DA games? Gameplay like origins, companions like DA2 and open world like Inqusition?

    You learned nothing from ME:A sadly...
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    It will need to pick up the tattered ends of DA:I's story arc (especially the ending with "Trespasser") for if it doesn't, a violent revolution may be in the future.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I want gameplay like Origins, companions like DA2 and an open world like Inquisition
    Quote Originally Posted by DesoPL View Post
    I love the smell of overhype.

    Seriously... You cling in hope, that new DA, will got all good aspects of previous DA games? Gameplay like origins, companions like DA2 and open world like Inqusition?

    You learned nothing from ME:A sadly...
    the only good companions from da2 were merrill and the dwarf guy. the rest were edgy or annoying, or in anders' case, butchered.

    the open world of inquisition and the literally everything else of origins is what i'd like. even the combat animations of origins are better, i hate the edgy animu shit they've used since da2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    It will need to pick up the tattered ends of DA:I's story arc (especially the ending with "Trespasser") for if it doesn't, a violent revolution may be in the future.
    there's gonna be hell to pay if i can't get my husbando back with my inquisitor.

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    Please don't be open world for the love of god, Bioware suck at open world... more liner game play please...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    Some people liked Dragon Age Inquisition and I don't think it's the same team as ME.
    I like DA:I too, better than Dragon Age 2 lol. The only thing I hated about DA@I was the combat and the needless open world. The story was good enough to carry the game. The open world in both DA:I and ME:A seems so forced and bad.

    Wish they would go back to Dragon Age: Origins levels and be more strategy based.
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    Need actual info now Bioware, please and thank you.

    Anyone who has played Trespasser should be aware of what the plot and setting will be. I look forward to making a snobby Tevinter magister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Please don't be open world for the love of god, Bioware suck at open world... more liner game play please...



    I like DA:I too, better than Dragon Age 2 lol. The only thing I hated about DA@I was the combat and the needless open world. The story was good enough to carry the game. The open world in both DA:I and ME:A seems so forced and bad.

    Wish they would go back to Dragon Age: Origins levels and be more strategy based.
    How exactly is it forced when you can play the entire story without seeing even half of the zones? I actually liked discovering all the areas and lore objects. However they could improve the side quests and make them more appealing. This isn't an MMORPG after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    How exactly is it forced when you can play the entire story without seeing even half of the zones? I actually liked discovering all the areas and lore objects. However they could improve the side quests and make them more appealing. This isn't an MMORPG after all.
    I just don't think Bioware did 'open world' really well, I don't enjoy it the same way I did other, better open world games. I just want a more liner experience from Bioware is all. Unless they improve how they handle open world. Of all the open world games out there, Biowares ME:A and DA:I (while okay) have been the weakest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    How exactly is it forced when you can play the entire story without seeing even half of the zones? I actually liked discovering all the areas and lore objects. However they could improve the side quests and make them more appealing. This isn't an MMORPG after all.
    I disagree. DA:I failed in the world they made by simply filling it with mind numbing repetitive tasks that were nearly the same in every zone with a different aesthetic glossed over it. I.E. Close rifts, star puzzles, set camps, find eleven runes, find resources, etc. The war table was somewhat interesting but its just like WoW missions you send followers on, it loses its luster after several uses and then you simply look at time to reward ratios and don't even bother looking at context. I found myself somewhat enjoying seeing the areas from previous games in an open setting but it just didn't mean much to me. The most interesting parts of the games were the main missions and secondary missions for companions or secondary plot points, not the tertiary "world quests" is an almost close comparison.

    I believe Bioware would be much better off making the new DA like DA:O where everything that was interesting was in a smaller zone and what wasn't worth it wasn't there. No fluff no fuss. Personally, I find DA:O to be the best DA game in terms of quality when compared to the others. You could do more with your talent builds as there were more talents to choose from - entropy mage being an amazing example. You can really notice the difference if you go from a DA:O playthrough to a DA:I playthrough they really just phone this integral part of character creation in anymore.

    However, if there's one thing DA:I did right it was expanding on parts of the game that DA:O and DA2 did not. One such part was the extensive deep roads missions and areas were so satisfying to go through and enjoy. It's such a mysterious part of the game for me, its where the ancient dwarves used to live and where the dark spawn live and raise old gods as archdemons, and yet we didn't do much there in the first two games, simply one major plot point there and then we left.

    However, going forward what can they even story build into? Another blight set in the future? This could prove more of the same and not be as interesting but could be if done right. Maybe in the past in Tevinter? Players could possibly not relate to the Tevinter because all we currently have as information on Tevinter is they are Roman-esque in their ways and we have clashed with slavers in all 3 games. The mystery about them might also make them a good plot for a new game as well. Mite b cool.

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    The newer games get a lot of hate but in all honesty I thoroughly enjoyed all 3, specifically enjoyed the open world aspects in the later game but in all honesty I'd play a graphically updated version of the first one >.>

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorrum View Post
    I disagree. DA:I failed in the world they made by simply filling it with mind numbing repetitive tasks that were nearly the same in every zone with a different aesthetic glossed over it. I.E. Close rifts, star puzzles, set camps, find eleven runes, find resources, etc. The war table was somewhat interesting but its just like WoW missions you send followers on, it loses its luster after several uses and then you simply look at time to reward ratios and don't even bother looking at context. I found myself somewhat enjoying seeing the areas from previous games in an open setting but it just didn't mean much to me. The most interesting parts of the games were the main missions and secondary missions for companions or secondary plot points, not the tertiary "world quests" is an almost close comparison.

    I believe Bioware would be much better off making the new DA like DA:O where everything that was interesting was in a smaller zone and what wasn't worth it wasn't there. No fluff no fuss. Personally, I find DA:O to be the best DA game in terms of quality when compared to the others. You could do more with your talent builds as there were more talents to choose from - entropy mage being an amazing example. You can really notice the difference if you go from a DA:O playthrough to a DA:I playthrough they really just phone this integral part of character creation in anymore.

    However, if there's one thing DA:I did right it was expanding on parts of the game that DA:O and DA2 did not. One such part was the extensive deep roads missions and areas were so satisfying to go through and enjoy. It's such a mysterious part of the game for me, its where the ancient dwarves used to live and where the dark spawn live and raise old gods as archdemons, and yet we didn't do much there in the first two games, simply one major plot point there and then we left.

    However, going forward what can they even story build into? Another blight set in the future? This could prove more of the same and not be as interesting but could be if done right. Maybe in the past in Tevinter? Players could possibly not relate to the Tevinter because all we currently have as information on Tevinter is they are Roman-esque in their ways and we have clashed with slavers in all 3 games. The mystery about them might also make them a good plot for a new game as well. Mite b cool.
    I'm with you when it comes to having more complexity and talent choices and also when it comes to quests (of course main story + companion quests are the most interesting part) but I still don't think that open world areas are an inherently bad thing when it comes to Dragon Age games. They just need to decide where they want to go with it. The first time I encountered a dragon (the one in the hinterlands) in DA:I was insanely fun (also Iron Bull later commented on it opening up a neat little dialogue). If they manage to somehow make our companions contribute to the actual side quests it would be great even if it means that they'd have to make less side quests. To me Dragon Age is all about the characters but I can't deny the appeal of having an actual world that you can explore and leave your mark on (like e.g. crestwood). We don't need any fetch quests though. Crafting was also quite fun even though there were too little armors/weapons for my taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorrum View Post
    I disagree. DA:I failed in the world they made by simply filling it with mind numbing repetitive tasks that were nearly the same in every zone with a different aesthetic glossed over it. I.E. Close rifts, star puzzles, set camps, find eleven runes, find resources, etc. The war table was somewhat interesting but its just like WoW missions you send followers on, it loses its luster after several uses and then you simply look at time to reward ratios and don't even bother looking at context. I found myself somewhat enjoying seeing the areas from previous games in an open setting but it just didn't mean much to me. The most interesting parts of the games were the main missions and secondary missions for companions or secondary plot points, not the tertiary "world quests" is an almost close comparison.
    I only installed one mod for DA:I, the one that eliminated the timers on the war table missions. I would highly recommend it for anyone on the PC; it improved the experience 100x over. There's a lot of cool story and interaction from them, and if you send the right advisors a lot of them turn into long chains of missions with a story to them. A couple of them even sent you back out into the world for their conclusion, like the one where we outfit the group of soldiers in Skyhold and they end up in trouble. I do agree the tasks were mundane and repetitive, if they had just eliminated the shard collection it would have been fine I think. But things like collecting the mosaics that actually told stories were fun to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    I only installed one mod for DA:I, the one that eliminated the timers on the war table missions. I would highly recommend it for anyone on the PC; it improved the experience 100x over. There's a lot of cool story and interaction from them, and if you send the right advisors a lot of them turn into long chains of missions with a story to them. A couple of them even sent you back out into the world for their conclusion, like the one where we outfit the group of soldiers in Skyhold and they end up in trouble. I do agree the tasks were mundane and repetitive, if they had just eliminated the shard collection it would have been fine I think. But things like collecting the mosaics that actually told stories were fun to me.
    Spoiler: You can also get a chain to disable Samson's armor which brings you to many different locations and opens up another dialogue option during the main quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I liked the 200 hours of filler bullshit : (

    Even more than a lot of the story content. It's so mindless and soothing/relaxing to farm out.
    Yea, agreed but they should remove the level cap as I got to 25 way before the game was over and then it felt kinda pointless to keep farming.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Vorrum View Post
    The war table was somewhat interesting but its just like WoW missions you send followers on, it loses its luster after several uses and then you simply look at time to reward ratios and don't even bother looking at context.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    I only installed one mod for DA:I, the one that eliminated the timers on the war table missions. I would highly recommend it for anyone on the PC; it improved the experience 100x over.
    On PC you could just bump the date on your pc up and it it insta complete, dont need to mod it :P

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    i better see my boy dorian again

  19. #99
    I really enjoyed all of the DA games, thought they were really good. I can't wait to see what happens with Solus, I want them to clear up the mystery of the maker and the black city as well, although in doing that, I don't see how they could revisit Thedas and still be interesting.

    I also want to find out more about Sandal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehealadin View Post
    I really enjoyed all of the DA games, thought they were really good. I can't wait to see what happens with Solus, I want them to clear up the mystery of the maker and the black city as well, although in doing that, I don't see how they could revisit Thedas and still be interesting.

    I also want to find out more about Sandal.
    isn't sandal kinda explained by that deep roads dlc for inquisition?

    as for the maker, i want him to be real honestly. come out of no where and surprise even solas. have a god vs. god battle.

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