2 explosions in Manchester Arena - CONFIRMED Fatalities.

[Mafic]

you don't think it's by design that SA helps destabilize the region and then pushes the refugees off onto someone else while feeding them Wahhabist propaganda? and no I don't think throwing the doors open for millions of people to rush in is a good idea in any situation.

They are known for their proxy wars so that wouldn't surprise me as this idea has been tossed around the last few years. But it is clear that the West is moving away from them which is why fracking has undercut their grip on western policy.

[Venant]

I get your shtick is to deliberately misinterpret what people are saying but this is such a sad example from you.

Seems like you are attempting to rationalize terrorism by blaming it on the United States. Of course, the end result of your reasoning isn't that we shouldn't engage in wars, since wars are inevitable. The end result of your reasoning is that when war is waged against cultures that engage in terrorism, it should be a complete war of annihilation with the intention of eradicating the population of the enemy so that there cannot be further terrorism in the future.

Of course, it makes sense that if you are fighting an enemy with a mindset stuck 800 years in the past, modern doctrines of 'war crimes' and 'crimes against humanity' might have to be tossed out the window.

[Sky High]

Sorry but the US isn't forcing ISIS to go on a rampage, they are doing it of their own volition.

doubling down on the dishonesty doesn't make you look less dishonest. maybe if you try a third time it'll work or just assume me, who knows?

[Dug]

Seems like you are attempting to rationalize terrorism by blaming it on the United States. Of course, the end result of your reasoning isn't that we shouldn't engage in wars, since wars are inevitable. The end result of your reasoning is that when war is waged against cultures that engage in terrorism, it should be a complete war of annihilation with the intention of eradicating the population of the enemy so that there cannot be further terrorism in the future.

Of course, it makes sense that if you are fighting an enemy with a mindset stuck 800 years in the past, modern doctrines of 'war crimes' and 'crimes against humanity' might have to be tossed out the window.

Easy to say when you're not the one pulling the trigger. Yes yes "I would" blah blah, but you won't be.

[Granyala]

Yes, importing and being tolerant towards a culture that does not believe in tolerance itself is dangerous.

That being said, I don't think unleashing security on a person that is "nervously fiddling with a bag" is the right thing to do.
That's not suspicion, that's downright paranoia.

[PC2]

doubling down on the dishonesty doesn't make you look less dishonest. maybe if you try a third time it'll work or just assume me, who knows?

What are you claiming was dishonest?

[Venant]

Easy to say when you're not the one pulling the trigger. Yes yes "I would" blah blah, but you won't be.

What type of argument is that? Are you saying that there aren't people willing to pull the trigger?

The 'other side' seems to have a limitless number of people willing to murder children and innocent civilians, so I guess our civilization is doomed?

[Freighter]

I don't know if I'd call the west obsessed just left with no other choice given no other counties in the ME want to take any in so they funnel them into Europe. I mean do you clowns keep forgetting this refugee crisis is a direct effect from the US going into Iraq? also no advocating they deal with it themselves is to STOP GIVING THEM WEAPONS AND DESTABILIZING THEIR COUNTRIES. also gud luck with that travel ban Donny boy, it's working out great so far, huh?

You don't have to take refugees. Just say no and stop giving them asylum.

[Sky High]

Seems like you are attempting to rationalize terrorism by blaming it on the United States. Of course, the end result of your reasoning isn't that we shouldn't engage in wars, since wars are inevitable. The end result of your reasoning is that when war is waged against cultures that engage in terrorism, it should be a complete war of annihilation with the intention of eradicating the population of the enemy so that there cannot be further terrorism in the future.

Of course, it makes sense that if you are fighting an enemy with a mindset stuck 800 years in the past, modern doctrines of 'war crimes' and 'crimes against humanity' might have to be tossed out the window.

ooooh we have a contender for top bull shiter who thinks he can pull the wool over my eyes. no I'm stating a fact. not trying to rationalize anything. the rest of your post? /cackles GTFO

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You don't have to take refugees. Just say no and stop giving them asylum.

gee what a nugget of wisdumb, thanks.

[Granyala]

You don't have to take refugees. Just say no and stop giving them asylum.

I'm not sure whether international law would allow that.

[Freighter]

We do actually. Lawfully bound to do so as per human rights treaties.

It would require a political process to undo those laws.

No, you don't. Both South Korea and Japan get away with not adhering to that lawfully bound obligation. Your countries are sovereign countries, you can ignore them at will. Nobody is going to act against you for doing so.

[Shadowmelded]

Why are people still talking about refugees. The guy was born in the UK.

[Fleuria]

Don't let them in.
That's an easy answer.

Unfortunately you got about 10-20+ more major incidents on young civilians or civilians in general before people living in the fairy lands realise that extreme vetting of people coming from suspect countries or travelled to or from those countries is needed to keep people safe.

The above will never happen why the entirety of Europe is still trying to apparently attone for being atrocious people 100+ years ago. Personally I feel like if some one like Corbyn is elected to power the above will never happen as were always be on the #prayforx bandwagon and won't ever snuff out the root cause.

[Deleted]

Endus pls adress your opinion

[Snorkles]

Based on the last few attacks it seems there's some issue with 2nd Generation immigrants and integration. Possibly that awkward half way house between their parents culture and the culture they grow up in, perhaps a rejection by both, making them easy pickings for ISIS and the like.

[Kallisto]

You don't have to take refugees. Just say no and stop giving them asylum.

And then those (who are likely higher in number) die anyway. Sorry but I'm not pathetic and think a human value increases because of a side of a border they are from.

[Freighter]

Nope.

Yes. It's not hard.

[Sky High]

Yes. It's not hard.

the wold isn't SK in case you forgot, we have treaties and laws we chose to abide by decades and centuries ago.

[Freighter]

the wold isn't SK in case you forgot, we have treaties and laws we chose to abide by decades and centuries ago.

You can still choose to ignore them if you want to. There is nothing that forces an obligation on you to take refugees, nobody will act against you for ignoring it. Those signed treaties are worthless without enforcement.

[Blandalf]

Why are people still talking about refugees. The guy was born in the UK.

This. /10char

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