How do you feel about capitalism?

[Deleted]

The best economical and ideologic system that works well with human nature.
It has brought us wealth, prosperity, progress and continually acts as the plunder chest for other systems and ideologies.

I personally embraced capitalism at a young age. I understood how it worked early on and profited from it ever since.
Thanks to capitalism, I became financially independent which, for me personally, is the ultimate freedom in life.

[Stelio Kontos]

How dyou feel about people in the congo, with no education, who had never heard of America until yesterday, should have the same rights as peoples here who have died for our country?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Says nothing about only folks that talk and look like you being the only ones deserving of those.

Our people have a fucking culture,

So does everyone else.

most of our parents have been involved in ww2, that's a big fucking deal so fucking deal with it.

Same goes for everyone in Europe and Russia. Even more so in fact.

[Hooked]

Sorry but negative, they are going back, I will be the bad guy, you can keep virtue signaling, you can be weak, but on the other side we are strong and free of all scum who try to take our freedom. We have a limit, we have a red line in the sand also, once that line is crossed you are in trouble. So please be nice to everyone.

Looking back We will take the hot looking chicks in from the 0ther side. Wh not, good looking women will also increase our appeal

[Stelio Kontos]

Sorry but negative, they are going back, I will be the bad guy, you can keep virtue signaling, you can be weak, but on the other side we are strong and free of all scum who try to take our freedom.

Are you in the right topic?

Are you drunk?

[Cthulhu 2020]

Capitalism alone cannot be trusted to create a fair market where all can have a chance to compete and show their clout. And on that same token, pure government control can also not be trusted to create a thriving and bustling economy. It takes a mixture of both, where capitalism is regulated and controlled to ensure that monopolies, oligopolies, and crony capitalism, never take root.

[Hooked]

Are you in the right topic?

Are you drunk?

I'm always drunk when I talk to people like you

I want us all to talk sober, lets set it up

My sober talk is so serious, I think we need to sober talk.

- - - Updated - - -

My darkie niggy is down, thanks atsawin26, we will consider that for sure.

infracted - forbidden topics

[Stelio Kontos]

I'm always drunk when I talk to people like you

I want us all to talk sober, lets set it up

My sober talk is so serious, I think we need to sober talk.

- - - Updated - - -

My darkie niggy is down, thanks atsawin26, we will consider that for sure.

"people like me"?

Huh?

I guess you need another time out, boyo.

[Deleted]

That we abandoned it quite some time ago, for whatever screwed up thing that we have now.

[Nehezbegar]

The socialism will strangle all equally, the rich tomorrow, the poor the day after tomorrow. - Aleksander Fredro

[Nirawen]

It has good and bad aspects. Can be a great tool for people to improve their lives and let them live the lives they want but can lead to people being stood on and pushed down in order to achieve that.

[Ravenblade]

I'm not its biggest fan for sure but it sure beats the hell out of planned economy. I believe unchecked and unregulated capitalism is encouraging reckless behaviour, egocentrism, slavery, exploitation, anti-consumerism, negative lobbyism, cronyism and political oligarchism.

[Hooked]

"people like me"?

Huh?

I guess you need another time out, boyo.

Wtf I never said that.
F it Ill rol with it though, who cares?

- - - Updated - - -

"people like me"?

Huh?

I guess you need another time out, boyo.

No I think you need a timeout.

[Deleted]

Capitalism? Or the capitalism/socialism mix that we have?

They're two different systems that describe two different things. Capitalism is an approach to how to regulate trade and markets.
Socialism is a form of managing the needs of your society.

[Macaquerie]

I'm not its biggest fan for sure but it sure beats the hell out of planned economy. I believe unchecked and unregulated capitalism is encouraging reckless behaviour, egocentrism, slavery, exploitation, anti-consumerism, negative lobbyism, cronyism and political oligarchism.

This is what makes me a bit skeptical about the efficacy of capitalism. Sure, all the rich and well-developed countries are more or less capitalist, but then again, all of these countries also just happened to be the ones who at some point or another held extensive colonial empires they exploited for slave labor and natural resources, whereas the poor, socialist countries just so happened to be the ones being exploited. So it's pretty hard to point to capitalism as the decisive factor here.

[Danner]

The good

Capitalism, or rather the chase for bigger profits, is a motivator for optimization. It enables humans to do things better, smarter, faster. Or rather, it forces humans to do that - failure to keep up means someone else will do your thing better than you, eventually putting you out of business. I believe humanity should strive to always improve. And capitalism is by far the greatest motivator around. A point the soviet union missed.

The bad

Society need to revolve around its inhabitants. A society driven entirely by the capitalist chase for bigger profit will inevitably optimize the humans away. What is the point of a corporate nation with massive productivity and massive profits - if a significant portion of the people are excluded from partaking in its benefits? If the 1% take 99% of all the value, then something has gone terribly wrong. It breaks the social contract of society - you help me and I help you - if I have to help you and you don't have to do anything in return by virtue of having the silver spoon.

That's not to say the world doesn't need leaders. We do. And I'm supportive of leaders focusing on the pressures of leadership (it's a though job!) rather than the stereotypical manual labour. I just don't think it's a job providing 10000x as much value. And a system that promotes that skew is inherently flawed.

The ugly

Capitalism promotes destroying the social contract of I help you and you help me - in favour of the game of money. Life starts revolving around hoarding the abstract concept of money. Your value as a human being can be measured in your monetary assets. I've seen several people on this very forum claim low income humans do not deserve social benefits. Because being a worker doing 2 full time jobs just to get enough food on the table somehow implies being a super lazy bum. It takes some seriously warped thinking to come to that conclusion, and it takes a rotten society to promote that kind of thinking as something good. Capitalism is the idea that creates and upholds that kind of warped thinking.

I do not think the answer is throwing capitalism on the boat, soviet russia style. But capitalism need balancing to work out.

[kamuimac]

Are you against it, for it, or neutral? Do you feel that the corporations should have the control? Do you prefer fair trade or free trade?

nearly perfect system - promoting smart inteligent people punishing dumb and lazy idiots.

the less social help the better for society overall.

[Independent voter]

Capitalism happens naturally.

Say you have two tribes on an island, one day they get together and trade six husked coconuts for a pound of salt, capitalism just happened. The tribe with the coconuts made a profit because it doesn't take as much work to husk coconuts as it does to make salt but everyone is happy with the transaction.

The problem with capitalism happens when people try to "game" or exploit capitalism. Then you get the super rich and people hurt when their jobs vanish or prices rise too high, etc.

[Deleted]

Capitalism happens naturally.

Say you have two tribes on an island, one day they get together and trade six husked coconuts for a pound of salt, capitalism just happened. The tribe with the coconuts made a profit because it doesn't take as much work to husk coconuts as it does to make salt but everyone is happy with the transaction.

The problem with capitalism happens when people try to "game" or exploit capitalism. Then you get the super rich and people hurt when their jobs vanish or prices rise too high, etc.

This also happens naturally though. Human nature do dat.

[zenkai]

I'm sure we'll discover everything there is to be known about capitalism on a gaming forum.

How is this different than every other subject on here? This place is full of self proclaimed climate change and political experts.

[kamuimac]

How dyou feel about people in the congo, with no education, who had never heard of America until yesterday, should have the same rights as peoples here who have died for our country?. Our people have a fucking culture, most of our parents have been involved in ww2, that's a big fucking deal so fucking deal with it. Sorry but your new wave stuff has no effect on our values.

thats a bit overstatment though

if anything your culture came from gluing together bunch of european immigrants culture

native US culture got mostly destroyed -_-