New Dragon Age

[FobManX]

I'd give Witcher 3 and Origins a 10/10.

ME3? 8.5.

[pateuvasiliu]

@pateuvasiliu: the flaw in your argument is that I think Oblivion was complete and total dogshit thanks to its boring NPCs and level scaling, and that I enjoyed all those games which have lower ratings more (In Inquisition's case far more). I couldn't care less what other people on the internet think about a game I enjoy, I don't need that sort of validation.

You may not need validation, but you certainly need better taste in RPGs.

Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood or Thief's Guild questlines shit on everything Inquisition has.

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Assuming they're in equal numbers (which they're not).

And no, having played ME3 and Origins I'd score neither anywhere near 10/10.

You're just reinforcing that you're pleased with your own confirmation bias, dude.

And that's your opinion. Plenty would and have, though.

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Regarding Liam - He's the blokiest bloke in Andromeda, and was quite amusing, just not to my tastes as a teammember. I feel like the Andromeda initiative went:

-"Yo, we got this guy here, passed the tests."
-"Cool, where do we put him?"
-"Well, he quit crisis response and police work, doesn't really respect protocol or formalities, bad at long-term decisions. Kinda good at combat, I guess?"
-"Eh... Tough one. Don't want him sticking around the Nexus. Let the Pathfinder babysit him?"
-"Cool. Brunch?"

You may not need validation, but you certainly need better taste in RPGs.

Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood or Thief's Guild questlines shit on everything Inquisition has.

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And that's your opinion. Plenty would and have, though.

I'd agree ME3 had some parts that weren't good enough for a 10/10, such as Galaxy Readiness, and possibly the pre-extended cut endings. Neither did the Witcher, though. I've read the entire series of books and played the first two games despite the main character, who's the most uninitiative, led-by-the nose git. I stopped three hours into the third one, but I've heard good things about the hand-crafted quests. *dodges barrage thrown by W3 fans.*

Though, Oblivion had absolutely zero memorable characters, whatsoever. Except that Arena follower. I didn't find the Dark Brotherhood quest special, too many predictable plot twists. And gameplay wise, it's a Bethesda game.

I'd argue Origins should take the 10/10 simply due to someone DARING to make a new high fantasy world with new concepts, and pulling it off in a magnificent way. The Deep Roads storyline, Memorable villain (Not the Archdemon), it was BioWare grabbing the videogame world by the balls and saying, fantasy's back, bitch.

Inquisition had its grindy points, arguably a few too many. Though the Orlais ball was pretty damn cool, and Trespasser DLC - I still get chills down my spine as I remember Solas showing up at the end, and Iron Bull's involvement in it. Saying that the tactical element is gone... I could understand, but if you're playing it on the highest difficulty, the first couple of dragons are quite the challenge. Later on with a good build you still wreck face relentlessly, but still.

[pateuvasiliu]

Oh really? Mass Effect 3, legitimately deserves a 10/10? Funny, because you were just saying that user reviews don’t lie, yet user reviews are actually putting ME3 lower than DAI, with a score of 5.6 ~

ME3 - 5.6 - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3

DAI – 5.9 - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dr...ge-inquisition

So either you are wrong about the score that Mass Effect 3 actually deserves, or you are wrong about user reviews not being full of shit… my best guess is both.

You and I both know why ME3 has the lowest rating in the series despite being the best.

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I stopped three hours into the third one, but I've heard good things about the hand-crafted quests. *dodges barrage thrown by W3 fans.

Your loss, Witcher 3 is the best RPG ever made. And one of the best games.

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I'd agree ME3 had some parts that weren't good enough for a 10/10, such as Galaxy Readiness, and possibly the pre-extended cut endings.

ME3 is superior to ME2 in just about every way, the only reason it has a polarised user reception is that those morons voted 1/10 on a game that has 40 hours of greatness and 10 minutes of '' what the fuck ''.

I am perfectly fine with the EC "Destroy" option... and the Indoctrination Theory.

Honestly they should've just said the IT is canon and dodged that bullet. The fans literally did their job and made a better ending than they could've.

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Anyway, what would people like to see in the new Dragon Age? I'd like to see Tevinter, first and foremost. Possibly a world that's started healing, too, after the Blight, Mage Rebellion and the Inquisition.

I'd be willing to bet it'd be from a Tevinter standpoint, or at least it should be. The three previous saves (which better be goddamn importable), with Orlais ruled in 6 different ways, different King/Queen in Denerim, Inquisition either being a big corrupt organisation or a smaller, move secretive one. the Circle ruled in 3 different ways? All of those thing impact the world quite a lot, except Tevinter, who proceed not to give a shit about anybody else.

That would also mean more Dorian, and you're incapable of having enough Dorian.

[pateuvasiliu]

Anyway, what would people like to see in the new Dragon Age? I'd like to see Tevinter, first and foremost. Possibly a world that's started healing, too, after the Blight, Mage Rebellion and the Inquisition.

More Origins, less Inquisition.

Bring back tactics, complex talent trees, healers, actual inventories like in Origins, specialisations that matter dramatically ( like how mage could be a tank as Arcane Warrior and solo on Nightmare ), good antagonists/plots, hard decisions.

[Jastall]

Your loss, Witcher 3 is the best RPG ever made. And one of the best games.

It's very hard to take someone seriously when they claim that the objectively best RPG ever is a game that plays like an action game with RPG element.

In fact it's hard to take seriously anyone who acts like they have the objective truth on what's a good game and what others should enjoy. It's the sort of nerdier-than-thou attitude that I despise in the gaming community sometimes. Let people enjoy what they will, and stop having such a stick up your ass over them liking games you don't.

[pateuvasiliu]

It's very hard to take someone seriously when they claim that the objectively best RPG ever is a game that plays like an action game with RPG element.

In fact it's hard to take seriously anyone who acts like they have the objective truth on what's a good game and what others should enjoy. It's the sort of nerdier-than-thou attitude that I despise in the gaming community sometimes. Let people enjoy what they will, and stop having such a stick up your ass over them liking games you don't.

If The Witcher 3 is an action game with RPG elements I wonder what the fuck Skyrim is.

In fact it's hard to take seriously anyone who acts like they have the objective truth on what's a good game and what others should enjoy.

Deal with it, that's life.

I exaggerate often, but not this time. The Witcher 3 is the best RPG ever made.

And I don't know how someone that read the books didn't like it, because it's a complete treat for the book readers.

[MonsieuRoberts]

What I want to do is wait until reviews are out and ignore all else. Learned that lesson the hard way with a previously 9/10 franchise.

[Jastall]

If The Witcher 3 is an action game with RPG elements I wonder what the fuck Skyrim is.




Deal with it, that's life.

I exaggerate often, but not this time. The Witcher 3 is the best RPG ever made.

And I don't know how someone that read the books didn't like it, because it's a complete treat for the book readers.

Skyrim also is, all Bethesda games are baby's first RPGs in fact, since Morrowind at least. Skyrim was still good, and their Fallouts are enjoyable for what they are. Good RPGs? Not in a million years.

And keep believing you're right and others are wrong just because. You'll just keep being disappointed. I can name at least 10 RPGs better than Witcher 3 off the top of my head. IDGAF if you or a million people disagree.

[Archon14]

-"Yo, we got this guy here, passed the tests."
-"Cool, where do we put him?"
-"Well, he quit crisis response and police work, doesn't really respect protocol or formalities, bad at long-term decisions. Kinda good at combat, I guess?"
-"Eh... Tough one. Don't want him sticking around the Nexus. Let the Pathfinder babysit him?"
-"Cool. Brunch?"

Well, it wouldn't be the first time the senior Ryder made a questionable decision. Guy practically screams unconventional.

Anyway, what would people like to see in the new Dragon Age?

I'd like to see the Warden appear, and teach Solas a lesson or two. Warden is supposed to be more powerful than Hawke and Inquisitor, right?

[Deleted]

Well, it wouldn't be the first time the senior Ryder made a questionable decision. Guy practically screams unconventional.



I'd like to see the Warden appear, and teach Solas a lesson or two. Warden is supposed to be more powerful than Hawke and Inquisitor, right?

Hmm... True enough. Which again, reminded me of the unsolved mysteries in ME:A. I am looking forward to more story DLCs for ME:A, to be fair. Not because I want to give them money, but because I want to give them a chance to make it better.

As for who's the more powerful... it's a tough question, I think. Hawke managed to beat Carnivorous Coniferous Corypheus, even before Hawke had ten years of experience in Kirkwall, faced down a Qunari Arishok, a demented Templar-Commander and a Grand Enchanter (the last two in rapid succession), and numerous dragons. The Warden fought the Archdemon, Mother/Architect and (possibly) Caridin, but they've basically only fought during the couple of months after the Blight, and are usually going back to more civil duties afterwards. The Inquisitor is a bit different, though. They're starting off a bit more accomplished than either (Member of an elite mercenary force), and face some crazy shit on their own, though I'm imagining there'd be a difference between pre-Orb and post-Orb Inquisitor. The three are more or less tied, imo.

Sarcastic Hawke is still the best, despite being in kind of the worst game.

Speaking of Solas, I'd like to have an option to encounter him in more than a couple of monologues. He could probably appear in the PC's dreams, I'd imagine. Without us chasing him in a wintery forest, preferably. Something that could be happening would be some sort of elven apartheid, moreso than the usual - and could have moral choices - do we try to root out Solas' spies by any means, at the cost of alienating and possibly pushing more elves into his hands? Or do we risk information going into the wrong hands?

I also wouldn't mind the mage-crunching Templar from Origins, too. If only for the awesome outfits.

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I know it sounds silly but it's an actual word; Corypheus (Κορυφαίος) means the highest (both literally since it is derived from the word for a mountain peak and figuratively as in "the best")

Oh, I know, I was channelling my inner Sera there.

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but user reviews don't lie.

No, they are not. The good games have high ratings.

Dragon Age Origins, Witcher 2+3, Skyrim, Oblivion. The haters and the fanboys cancel each other out and the rating is accurate.

Dragon Age 2, Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda. Their ratings are close to their real value.

You do realise they cancel each other out

And games like Witcher 3, ME3, Origins legit deserve 10/10

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3 - user reviews 5.6/10

This is a nice elaborated trolling.

[Archon14]

Speaking of Corypheus, I wonder if Bioware is going to actually have the balls to explore the "I saw the throne of the Maker, and it was empty" story.

The Warden seemed most knowledgeable of the player characters, exploring ancient legends and acquiring powers like Arcane Warrior. I can see him potentially reaching the throne as well, and/or finding out why is the Maker missing. And who is it.
If they ever decided to bring Warden back, he'd be Arcane Warrior, right? He was in the trailers.

[Ilikegreenfire]

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3 - user reviews 5.6/10

This is a nice elaborated trolling.

Ya origional me 3 definatly feels around a 5. It's only after all 3 main DLCs and an emergency ending patch that we got a game anywhere close to the other two, the ending was just that bad. Even then you really only had one real choice, so no choice at all.

[Vanyali]

Speaking of Corypheus, I wonder if Bioware is going to actually have the balls to explore the "I saw the throne of the Maker, and it was empty" story.

The Warden seemed most knowledgeable of the player characters, exploring ancient legends and acquiring powers like Arcane Warrior. I can see him potentially reaching the throne as well, and/or finding out why is the Maker missing. And who is it.
If they ever decided to bring Warden back, he'd be Arcane Warrior, right? He was in the trailers.

Most likely, Corypheus saw the throne of the Elven pantheon, which would indeed be empty given they're locked away. The maker being true (or having a palace in the fade, where the elves used to live... ish...) isn't well substantiated in the tales humans tell of him. But the elves did indeed have a leader... who happened to be married to the single "god" that was killed but not dead (and, being a wisp, likely spent some time in the fade) and was locked away in the fade.

While the Warden may be somewhat powerful, I doubt he's the MOST powerful of anything - quite powerful, but ultimately very limited by the taint, and likely severely screwed up because of the false calling and having to fight that. Solas would no doubt overmatch him, given that Solas made the fade, has wandered it for centuries, and understands how to use it better than anyone else alive.

Also, if Arcane Warrior isn't brought back I riot.

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Speaking of Corypheus, I wonder if Bioware is going to actually have the balls to explore the "I saw the throne of the Maker, and it was empty" story.

The Warden seemed most knowledgeable of the player characters, exploring ancient legends and acquiring powers like Arcane Warrior. I can see him potentially reaching the throne as well, and/or finding out why is the Maker missing. And who is it.
If they ever decided to bring Warden back, he'd be Arcane Warrior, right? He was in the trailers.

Oh, god, that line gave me the shivers. As did a lot of lines in DA:I, in fact. Corypheus might've been a cookie cutter villain by some standards, but whoever voiced him was absolutely amazing at it.

I did re-watch the Sacred Ashes trailer, where I think the only thing that was a Arcane in nature was the glowy eyes as he killed the Archdemon. Could've been, though. Arcane Warrior was awesome, though not as cool (imo) as the Shield Warrior: *bashes 10 times with the shield* "Oh, right, I have a sword!" *bashes 10 more times with the shield*

When I think about it, with all the Dalish, I could see the knowledgeable bit! The old dwarven thaigs, elven ruins...

All in all, I wonder if there's going to be a bigger Tevinter/Qunari conflict in the game as well. The Qunari have been hinted at having greater and greater role after the first game, and Tevinter are basically holding the lot of them off in Seheron jungles. Jungles are fun.

[CaptainV]

Honestly I have a feeling quite strongly so that the next DA is an MMO, the way that Trespasser ended literally builds up to a "bigger world" showdown storyline leading me to believe the next DA will be biowares next MMO after SWTOR.

[Cosmic Janitor]

It certainly could work. Large world, loads of themepark elements, a magic system that is not so overpowered that it eclipses non-casters, several races.

Shush. We don't need another RPG frachise to die in the MMO shitter.