Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst
1
2
3
4
... LastLast
  1. #21
    The Insane Aeula's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Nearby, preventing you from fast traveling.
    Posts
    17,415
    They all became porn stars, engaging in sexual intercourse in the middle in a certain lusty coliseum. It's all they do these days and probably all they'll be remembered for ten years from now.

    Besides, ain't nobody got time for the pushover legion. It's not like we need the help, we went overkill with our artifacts, nothing can really stop us at this point.

  2. #22
    Over 9000! Santti's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    9,112
    Various reasons, I'd imagine.

    1) They have their own homes to rebuild. I'd imagine we left quite a few power vacuums in our wake. All factions in WoD probably significantly weakened not to be able to help much, regardless.

    2) We already got Illidan and a lot of other returning characters from previous expansion(s), so it's possible Blizzard was hesitant on bringing even more to the mix, especially from an expansion that we just went through.

    3) Blizzard couldn't get the voice actors of Yrel and/or Grom back for Legion. They were not Blizzard employees, after all.

    4) Warlords of Draenor was not too well received by it's players (personally, I liked most aspects of it), so they might have been reluctant to bring but the most needed and obvious choices for the plot they built for Legion (Gul'dan, Khadgar, Cordana).

    This is just pure speculation, of course.
    Last edited by Santti; 2017-05-28 at 12:28 AM.

  3. #23
    davidbane123
    Guest
    Ok look guys let's just face it... Yrel has a really fine hot ass, she would distract the men too much with her sexy body! I stare all the time in WOD!

  4. #24
    Immortal Zandalarian Paladin's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Saurfang is the True Horde.
    Posts
    7,936
    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    What do you mean by "the last true Eredar"? Do you mean guys like Velen who were old enough to have been around before the draenei left Argus? Cause I thought there's quite a few of those guys left.
    I should've precised that Velen was the last true Eredar leader, as Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden both has been twisted by fel magic beyond recognition. They are man'ari in flesh and in mind, while the Draenei are still very much Eredar in every way.
    Google Diversity Memo
    Learn to use critical thinking: https://youtu.be/J5A5o9I7rnA

    Political left, right similarly motivated to avoid rival views
    [...] we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism)..

  5. #25
    You also wonder why we aren't conducting a massive evacuation of all civilians from MU-Azeroth to AU-Draenor. If we lose, they all die.
    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

  6. #26
    Merely a Setback FelPlague's Avatar
    7+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    27,327
    because people would scream "rehash"
    i mean people are screaming about "black temple rehash, kiljaden rehash, teir 6 rehash, guldan rehash, terron gorefiend rehash, gurtogg bloodboil rehash" just over and over and over
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    My ideas are objectively good

  7. #27
    Well one character from WoD did make their way to the broken shore. We got the number 1 ogre rogue instead of yrel.

  8. #28
    Brewmaster Nemah's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Central US
    Posts
    1,391
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Like who ? Feathered lorewalker cho ?
    FalcoCho! Needs to happen.


    OT: I like the idea. It would be cool to have all of the various groups/factions we have "saved" or helped over the course of the last few expacs in tow / helping us. My guess is it's more a question of resources.

  9. #29
    Keyboard Turner Butterlord's Avatar
    5+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Feasting in Praven
    Posts
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    1. Blizzard wishes to keep the two universes independent from one another. Outside of the main Gul'Dan/Legion plotline, Draenor will mostly remain dissociated from Azeroth. Why? It prevents major story inconsistencies. This is also the reason why Garrosh and Thrall never reveal to Draenor characters who are their respective fathers, for instance.
    Gul'dan revealed the nature of Garrosh to Grom prior to capturing him.

  10. #30
    Scarab Lord Manabomb's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Probably laying somewhere frozen and cold.
    Posts
    4,106
    Because horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible writing. It can't even be expressed how shitty WoW's writing became with WoD.

    Some people try to pin it on MoP or even Cata, but I still don't think deathwang and moodring pandas were as bad as wibbly wobbly timey whimey orcs.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

  11. #31
    Blizzard probably doesn't want to involve alternate worlds again because it never planned how to properly use them in the story after WoD.
    Twas brillig

  12. #32
    Deleted
    Because Blizzard want to forget that expation. They have never used less from a "last expations" going into Legion. They just want to pretend like it never happend.

    Yrel who? we promised a great storyline with maybe a dark twist? nah yrel who.

  13. #33
    The most common assumed lore answer seems to be they are rebuilding and that seems like it would be sloppy story telling at best by Blizz, they need time to rebuild after 1 war where the alliance and horde seem to be in perpetual war and keep heading into conflicts while rebuilding/expanding.

    My idea is that because the transfer of troops needs portals and those portals need mages, there is not enough man power to move a sizeable force from Draneor to Azeroth with the current conflict happening.
    I don't think Yrel or Grommash as the leaders of their peoples would leave to defend Azeroth without a army behind them to do it.

    But Blizz may have missed their chance overall.
    A nice little scenario where we deal with the legion severing our connection with Draenor to prevent us from summoning reinforcements (with us losing) could have sealed away Draneor from a lore perspective.
    Blizz can trap Yrel and Grom on Azeroth during the event if they like them so much.
    Give us some epics at the end, WoD is explained away and everyone is happy.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    Well one character from WoD did make their way to the broken shore. We got the number 1 ogre rogue instead of yrel.
    If only he could free himself from that unlocked vault...

  15. #35
    Legendary! Lord Pebbleton's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Pebbleton Family Castle.
    Posts
    6,196
    As I wrote in another thread:

    -Well done heroes, you helped us regain Draenor! You can count on us for anything, at any time.
    -Fantastic! See, we have reasons to believe that the legion---
    -Aaaaany time! Yep!
    -...ok, as I was saying, the legion---
    -Right! Any!
    -The legion---
    -Oh someone is calling me I must go right there. For Draenor and all that! *runs away*

  16. #36
    I am Murloc!
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Posts
    5,563
    Lots of reasons.

    Expansions generally like to forget previous expansions for the most part (even if they were considered good). They might take some characters or plots that weren't resolved from a previous one, but generally, it's a new story, focusing on new characters. Whether you believe WoD was good or bad, they simply don't want this expansion feeling like the conclusion to WoD, or an extension of it.

    WoDs setting was complicated for what it achieved. Basically all it really did was serve a vessel for bringing Gul'dan back, and that was it. Nothing else was really taken from WoD and put into Legion except for that one very thing. Bringing WoD other WoD characters into the fray messes with our own timeline even more than it already did when the expansion was fresh. They probably didn't want to explain a bunch of shit, because a lot of things in WoD weren't really explained well to begin with.

    They are still rebuilding. This ones a kind of shit excuse considering the epilogue to the expansion had Yrel saying "If you need us, we will be here".

    My opinion? Probably a mix of a lot of things. Personally I think they don't want to complicate the story even more, and adding a lot of characters to the mix does actively diminish the ones they are trying to focus on. I don't know who voice acts who, but considering the amount of voice acting that goes on recently, they probably don't want to put the effort of getting the major characters in WoD to reprise their roles.

    Logically it makes zero sense though. I can understand not immediately helping us, but helping us when we assault Argus would make a lot of fucking sense. I liked aspects of WoD, but if they truly went through all that trouble just to get Gul'dan back.. I still have to ask why? Wouldn't it have been better to just have brought him back to life and not going through the trouble of introducing alternate dimensions?

  17. #37
    I would ask the same question if Legion actually felt like a threat. So far it feels like we don't need any help, we're blasting thru them like knife thru butter.

    The thing is in 7.3 we're invading the invaders lol.
    Last edited by Dagoth Ur; 2017-05-28 at 10:23 AM.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    I would be really darn annoyed that, even if I want nothing to do with WoD anymore:

    If those Draenei from WoD don't show up to help with the invasion against Argus... wowee.


    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    because people would scream "rehash"
    i mean people are screaming about "black temple rehash, kiljaden rehash, teir 6 rehash, guldan rehash, terron gorefiend rehash, gurtogg bloodboil rehash" just over and over and over
    Well whilst others I can't agree upon , tier 6 is basically a rehash, albeit an updated one. Only the mythic models (hooray for epin) actually look different.

    Thx to Isilrien for the awesome sig

  19. #39
    To put it simply, they know players would react negatively to it.

    Yrel straight up promises Khadgar at the end of WoD that she'll be there when the Legion comes for Azeroth, and now she is conspicuously absent. They are very obviously trying to forget about WoD because they know how universally despised it is, especially from a lore standpoint.

  20. #40
    Elemental Lord Felfaadaern Darkterror's Avatar
    7+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    The Vindicaar
    Posts
    8,641
    Y'rel promised "If you ever need us, we will be here." She didn't say "We will be there." She said "here". She was standing in Tanaan at the time, and if you go back, she's still there waiting. I tried asking her for help, but that wasn't one of the chat box dialog options.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Maybe she's stuck there waiting for the last players to finish their dailies? If those people would just finally pony up the $$$ for Legion and get thee to Dalaran, she would be free to join us.

    "I Am Vengeance. I Am The Night. I Am Felfáádaern!"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •