College students furious after they’re tricked into rejecting socialist ideal

[ButterBeast]

Yeah, like...fuck the man dude.

Pathetic. Mock me if you like but it won't change the fact that income inequality in your country is absurd.

[Jetstream]

Oooo, false equivalency disguised as discourse in the form of a "got'cha."

Cute.

[ButterBeast]

Redistribution of grades would be silly - but many socialists actually want an abolition of grades.

where did you hear this rumor?
But i guess lumping progressive youth together with socialists makes it easier to target and demonize.

[Deleted]

Oh I was wondering why this seemed somewhat familiar. YAF is one of those groups that suckle on billionaire cocks, or rather more specifically Kochs

[Kellhound]

I'm not sure what your source is on that, but the demand is definitely there for such degrees. And is that average for just the salary or salary and compensation again?

It's still a moot point has nothing to do with the topic at hand or with tuition debt.

"Most" is an important word.

It is stated as salary.

Tuition debt is tied to the cost of school, the cost of school it tied to the cost of wages.

[Forogil]

where did you hear this rumor?

From people who call themselves socialists. Actually listening to what people propose seems to be a dying art.

[HumbleDuck]

Oh, no. The foxy conservatives are at it again.

This is pretty much dumbest argument they could make. Like they have to be good to make such a shitty argument.

[DietzThought]

What a stupid and perfidious attempt to discredit socially thoughtful students. Equating GPA with wealth is beyond ignorant. I'm not American, but as I understand the GPA is used to determine whether a student can enroll in a College, right? College education is very expensive, so it makes very much sense that only the best students are allowed in. Students with a lower GPA are more likely not to succeed, therefore a lot of money would go to waste. The GPA is not a "reward" for studying, it is an indicator for society if it is a good idea to invest more money in your education.

[Deleted]

I am currently imagining a right wing hillbillie who thinks he is "that smart" by fooling "liberurls".

Seems the idiot is the right wing guy here, and not his "victims".

[Alexeht]

Some people do not understand what this thing was meant to start. It should help those "commies" lovers students to think about how socialism is all about equality NOT being fairly. Communism in USSR is also good example of how socialism do not work (another would be the Third Reich socialism).

[Stelio Kontos]

"Just taught my kids about taxes by eating 38% of their ice cream." - Conan O'Brien

[Zeek Daniels]

Redistrubution of wealth does not incentivize anyone to move up in the world. Poor people would do less than what they are doing now and you would breed a new generation that expects to be taken care of. And then what happens when all the rich people leave? and all the companies leave? well guess what no more redistribution from that top 1% everyone hates. And the middle class cant support your thievery so they suffer even more, and the government gets what they want, the population relying on them for everything. Except we know from history the government cant support that and then boom it all collapses.

[Alexeht]

Socialism isn't communism.

But communism is socialism, and nazism is socialism. Both failed, but people keep on creeping to another version of socialism which will fail as well.

[Barnabas]

Yeah, that's a bullshit number, not surprised you have no source. It's closer to 60k. It's still an irrelevant factor because it's a nonsense solution to tuition debt.

AAUP website. Plenty average over 100,000 usd. Still the point is why can't staff take a pay cut to lower costs for students?

[Stelio Kontos]

I remember my poli sci classes. All the first year scrubs with their Che t-shirts, Campus Communists. Extolling the virtues of Marxism/Maoism. Yes, I had a supervisor in the tutoring center who spent her college years carrying around her little red book and knowing absolutely nothing about the world outside California where she grew up.

And she was in her 50s by this point.

I sort of miss the airheaded idealism of college, God bless their little hearts.

[Magicpot]

For illustrating the ignorance of mentally and ethically stunted individuals who operate under the delusion that effort and earnings (unlike grades) are at all connected in the USA?

They are connected though. Effort just isn't the only thing you need for high earnings. You need:

- Effort (doesn't usually work without)
- Talent
- Connections

[Deleted]

LOL This is a awesome video.

Buahahaha.

[Magicpot]

But communism is socialism, and nazism is socialism. Both failed, but people keep on creeping to another version of socialism which will fail as well.

Both communism and nazism were also authoritarian ideologies, something which the vast majority of rightwingers are in favor of. I'd argue the authoritarian nature of these ideologies did more for their failure then the socialist aspect did.

[Granyala]

Umm... I fail to see the connection here.
Grades are pretty much only susceptible to your effort (barring any mental disorders, but those are usually accounted for by the teachers).

Getting a good job in real life depends on so much more than just grades and willingness to work hard. You need a portion of LUCK because competition is insane.

That being said: total redistribution is not justice. Effort should be rewarded or no one would go out of their way to attempt to excel.
But a partial redistribution may be in order, because our society and technology continue to develop into a direction where fulltime employment of all citizens is simply no longer necessary to keep things running.

As such I would be very much in favor of a unified general income that meets the basic need in order to survive. If you want extras & luxury... you will have to work at least part time though.

[Cosmic Janitor]

False equivalency. The biggest failure of these kids is that they didn't point that out right away.