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    People aren't against capitalism. They are against the rampant corruption our politicians are fighting to allow under the banner of "capitalism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekreab View Post
    Show me proof she won the popular vote.
    The vote results.

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    I'd love to see historical data for this poll. I get the feeling that between 18-29 there has always been a decently high rejection of capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    51% of people aged 18 to 29 now reject the capitalistic economic system.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5afj0q

    And that is the sound of progress being made.
    Wow young impressionable people that are fed BS 24/7 hate something they are taught to hate. More News at 11pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Get back to me when 18-29 year olds turn 35.

    Shit changes.
    Sticking your head in the sand and hoping the status quo will remain the same. Good luck with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Get back to me when 18-29 year olds turn 35.

    Shit changes.
    Yeah how many of those in that demographic that dislike capitalism still live in their parents basement, thats a statistic id REALLY like to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    This is an odd period to cling to polls, considering the polls blew Brexit and the 2016 US election. You could argue that polls have never had less credibility.

    Why do you still have such trust in polls?
    sigh

    The polls for brexit were within the margin of error, the stock market and pundits decided to ignore it. The 2016 election polls were also very accurate showing Trump closing in after the Comey release in swing states, just because people decided to interpret the numbers as guarantees does not change what they are. Whenever people say says lol polls it shows their lack of understanding of basic mathematics.

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    18-29's are notoriously stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekreab View Post
    Show me proof she won the popular vote.
    Why? Any proof we try to give you, you will just attempt to write off as some anti-Trump left wing conspiracy theory. We can call it popular-vote-ghazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    This is an odd period to cling to polls, considering the polls blew Brexit and the 2016 US election. You could argue that polls have never had less credibility.

    Why do you still have such trust in polls?
    Except the polls didn't blow either of them.

    Brexit polls showed it damn near 50/50 like 48/51 close.

    American polls are not based on the college they are based on popular opinion and fucking surprise Hillary DEMOLISHED Trump in the popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
    18-29's are notoriously stupid.
    Actually, they are the most educated generation in American history. But I am sure the Trump tards refer to that as college is a liberal conspiracy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekreab View Post
    Show me proof she won the popular vote.
    3 - 5 million illegal immigrants voted for Hillary but somehow they were not smart enough to know about the electoral college and voted in blue states

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    A majority of millennials now reject capitalism, poll shows

    "The word 'capitalism' doesn't mean what it used to," said Zach Lustbader, a senior at Harvard involved in conducting the poll, which was published Monday. For those who grew up during the Cold War, capitalism meant freedom from the Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes. For those who grew up more recently, capitalism has meant a financial crisis from which the global economy still hasn't completely recovered.

    Lustbader, 22, said the darkening mood on capitalism is evident in the way politicians talk about the economy. When Republicans — long the champions of free enterprise — use the word "capitalism" these days, it's often to complain about "crony capitalism," he said.

    "You don't hear people on the right defending their economic policies using that word anymore," Lustbader added.

    It is an open question whether young people's attitudes on socialism and capitalism show that they are rejecting free markets as a matter of principle or whether those views are simply an expression of broader frustrations with an economy in which household incomes have been declining for 15 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    Sticking your head in the sand and hoping the status quo will remain the same. Good luck with that one.
    No. I'm saying we've seen this movie before. We know exactly how it ends.

    What you think millenials are the first twentysomething generation to dabble with socialism?

    But sure "this time it's different". You know what happens after 30? You gain responsibilities. You have kids. They start to need things. You start to want things. For yourself and for them.

    And suddenly highly philosophical discussions about socialism look rather quaint.

    You want to know what the destroyer of your socialist dreams are? People having sex with each other and making babies. Babies who need things. It's the same story as always.

    But hey, I'm down with remakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Yeah how many of those in that demographic that dislike capitalism still live in their parents basement, thats a statistic id REALLY like to see.
    And more than that... how many of those exact same people won't be in the next 5-10 years... and suddenly have a change of opinion.

    It's really easy to not care for capitalism when you're living on somebody elses dime. And that includes student loans.

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    I think in that age range you're looking at what you'd expect to see. 18-29 would have a much larger portion of folks who are living at home and/or are under/unemployed. Little-no responsibility, little-no real world experience.

    And I'm in that age range saying that.
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    ...and when they have kids maybe they'll be glad of that social safety net...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    51% of people aged 18 to 29 now reject the capitalistic economic system.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5afj0q

    And that is the sound of progress being made.
    Societies are always changing methods and practices, and then giving them categorical labels.
    Usually within a society such as American, or Roman 1,500 years ago, the society doesn't fit the label 100%.
    While most of American practices, policies, and standard ways of operating are "capitalistic", we're not really living in the 1950's anymore.
    Also, usually when a society or civilization progresses one way or the other, the subsequent progressions become more frequent.

    Almost like Moore's Law and Computing, in the sense that there probably is some socio-psychological "law" that explains that.
    But I'm not so well versed in the technicalities.
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    And of course people would attribute it widely to things not related to rampant corruption.

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    Oh and one more thing. Go take a time machine back to Nancy Pelosi circa 1997. It's easy to be hard left when you don't have responsibilities or power.

    Nancy Pelosi 2017 is what responsibility and power does. Nancy Pelosi is what happens to nearly every left leaning political figure, for good reason.

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    I mean, I agree, capitalism is morally wrong, but I don't think the people in charge will allow it to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Yeah how many of those in that demographic that dislike capitalism still live in their parents basement, thats a statistic id REALLY like to see.
    You do know that in most places around the world, that are indeed NOT capitalists, share a common house-hold for a majority of family members, regardless of age?

    Your way of thinking is more "capitalist" than anything, to think that each person or (couple), no matter what at the age of 18+. Should have their own, basically "everything" it is to be a True house-hold. That is; Car, House, Wardrobe, Means of sustainable support, etc. Is not only 1, wasteful, but also astronomically expensive as a whole, economically.
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