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  1. #121
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    the rings not being a reward is the most disappointing thing to me through out the whole expansion - its a huge letdown - blizzard wasted alot of potential here. really makes me sad. cant seem to understand how they didnt see the great opportunity here to finally do the right thing. all hopes lost.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    So... you think you catched up with that?! O.o

    You are still behind the curve by quite alot.
    You said 'impossible'. I've done that in two weeks. It'll take how long for the rest? A month more? Two months more? Three months more? Cool. Gives me something to do alongside the endless world quests, dungeons, raids and other things I still haven't gotten around to doing. Nothing is impossible. Just depends on what your benchmarks of being caught up are. Everyone will have different expectations of the game and that's a good thing.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Dracula View Post
    I mean if he's gathered that much in only 2 weeks and his AK is still increasing, it's a pretty good catch up mechanic compared to any previous expac.
    In any previous expac the only thing which stopped you was gear. Now it is gear, ak, legendaries. How the hell it is better?

  4. #124
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    Based on the calculations i have seen thus far they are hardly BiS... so "getting another talent" sounds way less enticing you make it sound.

    Besides; what did you expect? Anyone who actually played the game should be at the very least very close to having all of them for his spec... they needed to add additional ones to keep us doing content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aliven View Post
    In any previous expac the only thing which stopped you was gear. Now it is gear, ak, legendaries. How the hell it is better?
    So you are saying it's still gear that is "stopping you"? Cause last time i checked you put AP into your weapon, which is gear AND legendaries are gear themselves too.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Based on the calculations i have seen thus far they are hardly BiS... so "getting another talent" sounds way less enticing you make it sound.

    Besides; what did you expect? Anyone who actually played the game should be at the very least very close to having all of them for his spec... they needed to add additional ones to keep us doing content.


    So you are saying it's still gear that is "stopping you"? Cause last time i checked you put AP into your weapon, which is gear AND legendaries are gear themselves too.
    They are in technical terms - but legendaries in legion are heavy rng based and even IF you get one, two, three they may be nothing more that stat sticks because they are pretty useless for your spec. Like Pillars for demo lock. Instant demonic gate, woohoo...

    And artifact power is on top of any gear you can aquire. You get awesome gear but are slacking a little with points? Too bad, take that 10-20% hit to your dps because reason.

    So yes, it is much more unfriendly that in previous expansions. And blizz will admit that this was a mistake (legendaries, ap) when the new expansion would be annouced. They will say they learn a lot from it etc... Like they always do.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by kubuntu View Post
    mine is crap so /care prefer other legendarys
    Same here

    Thx to Isilrien for the awesome sig

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Magicpot View Post
    Thoughts?

    People have been reporting the rings dropping on the PTR, and they're subject to the same legendary limit.

    Are y'all excited for RNG deciding if you'll get another talent or not?
    that would be completly retarded seeing how they are bis for pretty much all specs

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by slime View Post
    JUST SAY IT ALREADY! SAY IT!

    legiondaries
    Legiondaries, they're legen... wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...
    But your duty to Azeroth is not yet complete. More is demanded of you... a price the living cannot pay.

  9. #129
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    And artifact power is on top of any gear you can aquire. You get awesome gear but are slacking a little with points? Too bad, take that 10-20% hit to your dps because reason.
    Slacking is not a valid reason to do badly nowadays?
    In about 2 weeks if not before we will be hitting AK40 (the cap), by which point you will be able to instalevel all your alts AK to 40... making the way to 52 traits a breeze on all your characters. Everything past that doesn't really contribute much. What will you complain about after that?

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Valrysha View Post
    We thought blizzard would wise up.
    Oh sweet summer child.

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  12. #132
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    A few pages ago, someone said that even if you have all 10 legendaries for your spec, rng still has to play a role on the ring because it's not the only leggo that's been added.

    If i'm not mistaken though, at least for paladins, only one extra legendary (apart from the ring) is being added for each spec individually, so it's not really that bad. You're aiming for 2 leggos once 7.2.5 hits, which you'll get pretty quickly.

    Of course if you haven't acquired all 10 leggos for your spec, yes it'd be an extra pain.

    Bottom line, i'm not defending the whole rng system, i hate it actually. But that's how WoW works for some years now and especially Legion is rngbased as a whole. Can't do much but cope with it and pray to the rng gods.

    Also, some1 stated that WQs should award Nethershards. Please, let Blizzard see this and actually put some thought on it.
    Last edited by mmocdc4d0d4c33; 2017-05-31 at 01:00 PM.

  13. #133
    I'm a little upset just because they are so powerful. I'm sure I'm not the only class where both of the two new legendaries for us are just incredibly powerful... knowing that I've still got 3 current legendaries to go, it sucks knowing it could be months (potentially) before I see one of these. It just really sucked when Legion launched and others would do dramatically better, even if they weren't better players, because of luck with legendaries. We're at a point now where that's starting to change as more people collect more orange items, and it just seems odd to restart that entire mechanic. I know there aren't many other ways to introduce new legendaries, but there has to be SOMETHING better than continuing the RNG struggle that many have dealt with. I was lucky enough to get the Havoc ring as my first one (although it was by the time most other guildies had two legendaries already) and if that hadn't happened, I'd have been really screwed. Even so, not having the DPS belt (which I still don't have) was a big setback for a while until it slowly became less crazy-advantageous to have.

  14. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubuntu View Post
    mine is crap so /care prefer other legendarys
    Same for mine. Not sure what Blizzard's thought process was behind the talent they chose, almost feels like they selected it by throwing darts.

    The other legendary they introduce is pretty bad as well, so it's kind of disappointing to not have anything new to look forward to.

  15. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Have you noticed he said legendaries, not legendary rings? I hold out hope they are an exception to the rule until I'm told otherwise
    The question though was about the RING legendaries.

  16. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Based on the calculations i have seen thus far they are hardly BiS... so "getting another talent" sounds way less enticing you make it sound.

    Besides; what did you expect? Anyone who actually played the game should be at the very least very close to having all of them for his spec... they needed to add additional ones to keep us doing content.
    Not needed at all if you consider off-specs or alts as a different source of keeping us doing content.

    Also... I found 2 legendaries on 2 different characters in some random chests in Azsuna. This is just mind-boggling. It's only one step away from having random non-elite world mobs dropping legendaries.

  17. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by scubistacy View Post
    Not needed at all if you consider off-specs or alts as a different source of keeping us doing content.

    Also... I found 2 legendaries on 2 different characters in some random chests in Azsuna. This is just mind-boggling. It's only one step away from having random non-elite world mobs dropping legendaries.
    Now that you mention it, i actually got the DH bracers from a rare in Azsuna

  18. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Based on the calculations i have seen thus far they are hardly BiS... so "getting another talent" sounds way less enticing you make it sound.

    Besides; what did you expect? Anyone who actually played the game should be at the very least very close to having all of them for his spec... they needed to add additional ones to keep us doing content.

    So you are saying it's still gear that is "stopping you"? Cause last time i checked you put AP into your weapon, which is gear AND legendaries are gear themselves too.
    But gear was never before that much RNG based. Let's take TBC. If you had a BIS trinket in some heroic dungeon, you went there and farmed it until the item dropped and you won the roll. If you had a guild or friends group, you even could be sure to get the item on your first drop. You are then set and done and can move on to other goals.

    Now, even if your potential BIS drops and you get it, you are not automatically done. As long as you don't get a reasonable RNG boost proc, you will need to continue running this dungeon. Or you give up and will feel incomplete for some time. Now put dungeon and raid lockouts into the system and you get an overkill.

    What works in Diablo is not automatically good in WoW. These are totally different games. It's a sign of extreme lack in understanding and logical thinking to assume otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stelmat View Post
    Now that you mention it, i actually got the DH bracers from a rare in Azsuna
    I also had a rare dropping a legendary with one of my alts, it was a 5-man-group/upgradeable to raid group world quest in Suramar City, with about 10-15 people hitting on that rare. I was rather baffled, because I had not expected this at all. And the feeling of a nice surpise did not held long because... I don't know, the overall feeling that this system is bad just does not leave me. WoW supposed to reward (time) commitment and skill, or at least committment only, and now you just roll the dice and pray. This casino thing made me lose interest in Diablo 3 after about 2 weeks of playing the game. I want to have goals that I am able to reach in some defined time.

    We should make people who made the decision roll a 100 on a 100 die for getting their paycheck, and not getting anything if they roll 1-99. This is the only thing which could make them learn.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by scubistacy View Post
    Now, even if your potential BIS drops and you get it, you are not automatically done. As long as you don't get a reasonable RNG boost proc, you will need to continue running this dungeon. Or you give up and will feel incomplete for some time. Now put dungeon and raid lockouts into the system and you get an overkill.
    Not to mention you will start this shit show every couple of months again when the next tier is out, the raid trinkets (or the healer cape) are still garbage and everyone tries to get them m+ tf procced once again.

    Edit: Or relics with the desired skill. They suffer the same issue for alot of classes.
    Last edited by Cosmic Janitor; 2017-05-31 at 01:25 PM.

  20. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Not to mention you will start this shit show every couple of months again when the next tier is out, the raid trinkets are still garbage and everyone tries to get them m+ tf procced once again.
    Exactly. How can you maintain a sense of progress with a system which has such immense encouragement to run outdated content not to catch up with an alt or to help out some buddies, but to improve on your main?

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