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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    Well, I don't own a 4K monitor... it's just in 1080p which seems good enough for me.
    Then you won't need one.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    The first question is what do u want to do with it? If u are trying to 4K game then yes its worth it. If you are doing 1080p/1440p then its 100% overkill and not worth it.
    For 1080p/60FPS I'd totally agree with you. For 1080p/144hz most definitely not. For 1440p, maybe for current games. However, most people buy a GPU to last them 3-6 years. In 3-6 years, will a GTX 1080 still be ok for 1440p? Can't really say myself, I'd say it's probably worth it though.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Lathais View Post
    For 1080p/60FPS I'd totally agree with you. For 1080p/144hz most definitely not. For 1440p, maybe for current games. However, most people buy a GPU to last them 3-6 years. In 3-6 years, will a GTX 1080 still be ok for 1440p? Can't really say myself, I'd say it's probably worth it though.
    Thankfully you don't need to run the games in 1440p even if its a 1440p monitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffladin View Post
    Thankfully you don't need to run the games in 1440p even if its a 1440p monitor
    You spend the money you might as well take advantage of your money spent. Plus you don't want to be playing any game at 1080p on a 1440p monitor. 720p sure, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Then yes a GTX 1080 is overkill.

    A GTX1070 will get u ultra settings in most (if not all) games and 60FPS+. If u are planning to upgrade and only play WoW then both is useless since WoW benfits more from a CPU upgrade (depending the CPU u got) then GPU.

    In detail what are u wanting to do with it?
    Overkill implies that you'll take full advantage of the piece of hardware. If you say that the step down (1070) can only give you Ultra in "most" games then it's completely contradicting to your point. The 1080 will outlive the 1070 regardless in terms of performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffladin View Post
    Thankfully you don't need to run the games in 1440p even if its a 1440p monitor
    I guess that's true, but monitors always look better at their native resolution and if you have one, why would you not want to use it? Sure, you could spend less on a 1070 now, and then in 2-3 years when it can't quite cut it at 1440p anymore buy a 1270 or 1370 or whatever they have at the time, but if you just bought a 1080 now, you'd spend less money in the long run.

    All a moot point really because OP has a 1080p/60hz monitor, so yes, the 1080 is probably overkill. At 1440p, it's not quite so cut and dry as he made it out to be though.

  6. #26
    You will be fine even with a 1060 or a RX480.
    1070 will ℅100 run all your games, ultra settings @ 1080p/ 60fps. ( Assuming you have a semi decent CPU to go along with it)

    With a 1080 you'll be able to use higher rendering scales ( ie downscaling let's say 4k to 1080) but that's really beside the point. Anyone who claims 1070 can't handle 1080/60 @ ultra probably doesn't know what they are talking about.

  7. #27
    If you are at 1080P only get the 1080 if you want to play at 144HZ otherwise a 1070 will do.

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    I built a nice PC a bit more than one year ago. With a 6700K, GTX 1080, 32GB of ram, 2 SSD, 2 HDD, custom loop. So quite overkill for pretty much anything I do/play (even if I actually use its calculation power when I work home).

    I had the money and hadn't changed for quite some time (was on a SLI of 670 on a I7-920). And while it certainly run smoothly any games I throw at it. I told myself it was the last time I will go this route with a build. Seeing how well the 670 went. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have seen any real difference with a 1070.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Then yes a GTX 1080 is overkill.

    A GTX1070 will get u ultra settings in most (if not all) games and 60FPS+. If u are planning to upgrade and only play WoW then both is useless since WoW benfits more from a CPU upgrade (depending the CPU u got) then GPU.

    In detail what are u wanting to do with it?
    Wow is really gpu intensive at max settings, in cataclysm my 6950 and i5 sandy bridge was oblirating the game, and now with max settings I barely get 30-40 fps in the newest zone. CPU is working perfectly gpu is taxed 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFrotton View Post
    Wow is really gpu intensive at max settings, in cataclysm my 6950 and i5 sandy bridge was oblirating the game, and now with max settings I barely get 30-40 fps in the newest zone. CPU is working perfectly gpu is taxed 100%
    CPU may look like it is working perfectly, but it is the choke point. Yeah, a 6950 is getting a little weak for WoW I think, but even a 750ti can handle the game at mostly max settings as long as you don't have some stupid things like render scale turned up as long as you are at 1080p. The CPU however looks like it is ok, because WoW is primarily run on one thread. There are several other threads, but there is one big one that does most of everything and it runs on one core only. On a 4 core CPU, if it maxes out one core, that's only using 25% of the CPU. So it looks like it's not using much of the CPU, but you are really at the limit. In addition to that, it does not properly utilize modern CPUs, so it;s not even really fully using that one core, so even that core does not look like it is maxed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amalaric View Post
    Seems damn expensive to me but I would like to hear what others think about the cost of a GTX 1080.
    If you're just playing WoW, then no. If you're playing high end PC games, then yes.
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  12. #32
    Yes, a 1080 isn't going much over 100 fps at 1440p with maxed settings or anything close, and is really just an intro card for any 4k content. If you want to use any SSAA you'll lose half your FPS on top of that.

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    Nothing surprising when even a 1080 SLI doesnt correctly support the 1440p at 144Hz.

    The guy who said 1080 GTX is overkill under 4k is just a stupid one who didnt even have a GTX 10.

  14. #34
    Depends on what you actually play. I opted for a 1070 myself and my wife a 1060 as it was past time for graphic updates. I thought about a 1080ti at the time, but decided to wait and save for a new CPU/Mobo/Case combo.

    I also don't play a lot of the big graphic hog games on my PC CURRENTLY, but that will change in the future and I'm going to wait out the next gen with the 1070. I have a 1440p 144mhz 1 mil refresh gsync monitor. I'd honestly say, upgrade your monitor first then think about the 1080, you'll notice the difference more.
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    @1080p 60fps = overkill
    @1440p 60-144fps = just right but stay away from supersampling
    @4k 60fps+ = unless you have an SLI setup you shouldn't be bothering with 4k. It's not going to be a standard any time soon and the market for it probably won't level off till 2020.
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    It is worth the price tag for several reasons.

    - Reliability: x80 cards are made of higher quality components then the cheaper versions meaning that it will last you for several years before any issues might arise.
    - Performance and staying power: A 1080 is capable of playing the vast majority of games at 1080p/60fps at max settings, but more importantly this will remain the case for a longer period of time then if you purchase a cheaper card so you do save yourself money in the long run if you care about maxing things out and having smooth performance.
    - Downscaling: For a lot titles even on a 1080p monitor you can downscale to get better image quality, if not 4k downscaling then 1440p. You can still do it on a cheaper card but not quite as much.
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    Heh ive got a 1060 with a 1440p 165hz monitor, gsync essentially allows lower end GPU's to perform well on any title. And on older/less intensive games i am still in the 165fps+ range.

    People should definitely be putting monitor ahead of GPU In terms of budget, is what id like to get across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smooshtheman View Post
    i5 6600k
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    1440p 27' @ 144hz

    Runs all my games flawless on ultra settings, they are: Overwatch, Wow, Rising Storm 1&2 , BF1 , BF4, Arma 3, For Honor, World of Warships, and Player Unkown bgs, I havent had any FPS issues and every game runs perfectly. If I had the money to grab a 4k monitor and I would consider a 1080 but for what i have 1070 is plenty and its only 440$ USD
    You don't run BF1 on ultra settings at 1440p/144Hz with a gtx 1070
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    @1440p 60-144fps = just right but stay away from supersampling
    @4k 60fps+ = unless you have an SLI setup you shouldn't be bothering with 4k.
    How did you explain your message when you have to know then 1440p144 need more ressources than 4k60 ?

    So you pass on 1440p144 but not in 4k60 ? Well, you're lying.

    You can try with a 1080 SLI or 1070 SLI, they can do 4k60 without problems on all correctly coded games but not 1440p144.

    Because 1440p144 > 4k60 in ressources.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    Heh ive got a 1060 with a 1440p 165hz monitor, gsync essentially allows lower end GPU's to perform well on any title. And on older/less intensive games i am still in the 165fps+ range.

    People should definitely be putting monitor ahead of GPU In terms of budget, is what id like to get across.
    Theres a difference between gsync frames and flat frames, without mentionning the input lag. At least you can be at 30 Hz in game and 165Hz in monitor, But you will not see 165 frames, otherwise we would all buy GTX 750 to turn in 4k 144Hz with Gsync.

    Even 1080 SLI can't do 1440p 144Hz correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by pansertjald View Post
    You don't run BF1 on ultra settings at 1440p/144Hz with a gtx 1070
    He can't run BF1 Ultra at 1440p144 even with a second 1070. He'll be at 125-130fps, my case.

    Single 1070 with I7 it's 80-95 fps in BF1 Ultra @ 1440p

    There is a lot of liars on this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheilary View Post
    There is a lot of liars on this topic.
    Not so much liars but a bunch of people too busy not asking the right questions while the rest squabble over their own interpretation of performance.

    Par for the course when it comes to high-end PCMR threads I suppose.
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