The power level of playable races in Lore

[Ilikegreenfire]

It doesn't necessarily make them stronger. It's a magical augment. I don't think you'd argue that a tauren going into cat form is physically STRONGER than a Tauren regularly, but rather more agile. You're using bears deliberately because they're an animal that very much represents strength. Wolves would be more along the lines of agility in game terms.

Tauren also are basically tanks in and of themselves. They're VERY sturdy, along with being quite strong physically. Worgen, while more sturdy than their human counterparts, are nowhere near as sturdy as a Tauren.

Ya but then again Packform isn't a normal shape shift it has the raw power and ferocity of Goldrinn itself, not even Malfurian could control it. That why he banned its use.

Don't get me wrong the Worgen curse has draw backs like needing the ritual if you want your sanity and the fact you can only pass it on through the bite, but i mean it let 2 druids slaughter and entire Satyr warband.

[Better]

Ya but then again Packform isn't a normal shape shift it has the raw power and ferocity of Goldrinn itself, not even Malfurian could control it. That why he banned its use.

Don't get me wrong the Worgen curse has draw backs like needing the ritual if you want your sanity and the fact you can only pass it on through the bite, but i mean it let 2 druids slaughter and entire Satyr warband.

Demon blood also let orcs do terrible things. After Mannoroth was slain they lost the extra strength. In Warcraft lore being berserk is absolutely a massive power spike. Orcs didn't somehow lose the blood, but it's power faded. Comparing berserk Worgen to an Alliance Worgen isn't exactly fair.

[Wyrt]

Numbers matter and for that reason Draenei and Blood elf would be bottom, they are endangered species. Humans, Orcs and Nightelves would have the numbers to actually engage in war without fear of extinction.

How are humans and especially orcs not endangered species?

[Deleted]

I don't think anyone is arguing that Worgen have more raw strength than Tauren. At the very least I'm not. I think that Worgen's impressive raw strength combined with by far the best speed and agility out of all the playable races gives them the physical edge over Tauren.

Lol absolutly not, just put a bull against a wolf and see what wins.
Also ppl rate Dreanei far to high, the Orcs killed them on Draenor like there nothing.

[Ilikegreenfire]

Demon blood also let orcs do terrible things. After Mannoroth was slain they lost the extra strength. In Warcraft lore being berserk is absolutely a massive power spike. Orcs didn't somehow lose the blood, but it's power faded. Comparing berserk Worgen to an Alliance Worgen isn't exactly fair.

Ya but Mannys blood powers were directly linked to him iirc killing him ends them at least in Mu. Idk about Au drenor and Tanaani think it was guldan resurrecting Marathon that extending it.

The worgen curse is just passing on the shapeshift form on, the ritual just lets you keep hold of your senses, the powers stay the same.

[Tensho14]

Lol absolutly not, just put a bull against a wolf and see what wins.
Also ppl rate Dreanei far to high, the Orcs killed them on Draenor like there nothing.

Or a Wolf vs a Cow.

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Demon blood also let orcs do terrible things. After Mannoroth was slain they lost the extra strength. In Warcraft lore being berserk is absolutely a massive power spike. Orcs didn't somehow lose the blood, but it's power faded. Comparing berserk Worgen to an Alliance Worgen isn't exactly fair.

I think the Blood of Mannoroth does a little more than make Orcs go berserk.

[Ilikegreenfire]

Lol absolutly not, just put a bull against a wolf and see what wins.
Also ppl rate Dreanei far to high, the Orcs killed them on Draenor like there nothing.

Make the wolf equal size to the bull and ya lets see.

[Wildmoon]

Lol absolutly not, just put a bull against a wolf and see what wins.
Also ppl rate Dreanei far to high, the Orcs killed them on Draenor like there nothing.

If they could easily destroy a group of demons who outnumbered them then they can deal with the taurens. This is not wolf vs bull. The form has the lingering essence of Goldrinn. Worgen is not even a race. It's a curse rooted in nature magic. It's simply a power boost.

[Deleted]

Ordinary forsaken troops are fighting the worgen throughout silverpine. It's like saying a human has no chance against a orc.

Yes, and Forsaken are getting their asses handed to them until player saves the day. It's the player character, not the Forsaken army who turns the tide. When you enter Silverpine, Worgen are at the border of Tirisfal Glades. It's also said and shown numerous times that Crowley and Bloodfang outsmarted the undead on every turn (ambush in the mine, how they have dealt with the Forsaken vanguard in Gilneas, ordering 7th Legion to not use human soldiers, druids posing as ordinary wild bears ambushing Horde forces etc.), and it's basically the player making a save on every front.

[Aquamonkey]

but i mean it let 2 druids slaughter and entire Satyr warband.

If they could easily destroy a group of demons who outnumbered them then they can deal with the taurens.

The Curse of the Worgen comics only showed Ralaar and Arvell being able to survive the satyr warband by running away until other NElves came.

Also, the CotW3 says the current version of the worgen curse is diluted.

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Make the wolf equal size to the bull and ya lets see.

Worgen is not the same size as a Tauren so why would we....

[Friendlyimmolation]

Yes, and Forsaken are getting their asses handed to them until player saves the day. It's the player character, not the Forsaken army who turns the tide. When you enter Silverpine, Worgen are at the border of Tirisfal Glades. It's also said and shown numerous times that Crowley and Bloodfang outsmarted the undead on every turn (ambush in the mine, how they have dealt with the Forsaken vanguard in Gilneas, ordering 7th Legion to not use human soldiers, druids posing as ordinary wild bears ambushing Horde forces etc.), and it's basically the player making a save on every front.

If you want to discount the player and it's roll in the game, worgen would still be feral and the forsaken would have destroyed gilnaes with no one to help Genn fight her off.

The point still stands, the story of silverpine has the forsaken beating the worgen, which some people in this thread did. It know.

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The Curse of the Worgen comics only showed Ralaar and Arvell being able to survive the satyr warband by running away until other NElves came.

Also, the CotW3 says the current version of the worgen curse is diluted.

Also this, you're a watered down worgen with his will back. You're r not the primal original worgen.

Everything we see with the worgen gives them a toe to toe advantage with the hordes stronger races, not making them more powerful

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

wouldn't a tauren and an orc be similar in physical strength?

[Friendlyimmolation]

wouldn't a tauren and an orc be similar in physical strength?

Tauren swing tree trunks around, I don't think orcs can do that.

[Arrashi]

Tauren swing tree trunks around, I don't think orcs can do that.

Not to mention that tauren carry 1-2 more trees on their backs while swinging that tree trunks.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Not to mention that tauren carry 1-2 more trees on their backs while swinging that tree trunks.

That's just showing off

[Deleted]

If we're talking about who would win if everyone just had a massive war, then Humans hands down.

Why? lets just talk about Alliance the humans would not win against the dwarfs now that there clans united under one banner.
And that is not even talking about any Horde races.

[Friendlyimmolation]

If we're talking about who would win if everyone just had a massive war, then Humans hands down.

Everyone vs everyone? Humans would end up killing each other like they used to.

[Raetary]

gnomes > all

[Friendlyimmolation]

gnomes > all

Very resilient to be sure