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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelic View Post
    It's still a step towards that direction.
    Yeah it's great for deep learning training, but the way the article is titled could lead some people to think it's already doing advanced things far beyond current software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Have you worked an accounting job before?

    Not everything is paperless. And some companies even use software that was made before any of us were even born so the idea they would be getting the newest state of the art technology to do their work is laughable.
    Yeh why licences a close to infallible program for 50-100k when you can let unreliable humans work with outdated tech, I mean its only your money right? Accounting bots are going to make waves in the next 10 years.

    My wife runs the billing dpt of a medium size (business solutions) company, multiple contracts that come through in a given week are for "replace FTE" services, FTE is Full time employee. These are not robots they are selling, they are selling software that does accounting work, low end data entry and billing work.

    Im more concerned with what Bots are going to do to the white collar workforce than I am Robots fucking over the blue collars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Huge population crash, instead of 7 billion humans there will only be 1 billion or so. This will take 50 years or so to do.
    Considering how long people live right now, that'd likely require killing 6 billion people. Barring Ragnarok or the Zombie Apocalypse I don't see that happening in such a short time span.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDonald View Post
    With the majority of work being automated in the next 20 year's, what will become of the working man?

    Mass poverty? Will the social welfsre system collapse and will people die of starvation? Will the world leaders find a way to a form of Base income and will humanity be free of labour?
    Will we all start working part time to divide the work?

    What will happen with life as we know it?
    majority of what work? you say that like it's a fact of life. 20 years isn't long enough for "the majority of work" to be automated. If that actually were to happen, and im assuming you're talking about the manufacturing industry mostly, then there will be a surge of available farming jobs that normally went to the migrants. People get hungry enough they'll do what they gotta do to get by. And you do NOT want to have a universal basic income, that's just fucking lazy thinking. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything from you. Fuck. That.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Yeh why licences a close to infallible program for 50-100k when you can let unreliable humans work with outdated tech, I mean its only your money right? Accounting bots are going to make waves in the next 10 years.

    My wife runs the billing dpt of a medium size (business solutions) company, multiple contracts that come through in a given week are for "replace FTE" services, FTE is Full time employee. These are not robots they are selling, they are selling software that does accounting work, low end data entry and billing work.

    Im more concerned with what Bots are going to do to the white collar workforce than I am Robots fucking over the blue collars.
    render all those college degrees useless?

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    The machines will become self aware and enslave mankind or try to eliminate us. The someone will remember the machines have a power cord and the revolution begins. After that humanity shuns technology for generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDonald View Post
    With the majority of work being automated in the next 20 year's, what will become of the working man?
    First, this is just false. Not only the timeline (Think 80-200 years). Second, majority of work will not be automated. Automation will first go to easily repeatable jobs that require little supervision. This largely affects low-education jobs as well. Manufacturing will also be hit, farming and agriculture, construction. Low level service jobs would go next. But keep in mind, not all jobs even within those sectors aren't going, either. Lots of people don't -want- automation, so there will be a market for that.

    Many kinds of thinking jobs that require critical examination (as opposed to data analysis, finance, and the like), will also be difficult to automate.

    Many of these people ousted by automation will be moved to other areas, and trained accordingly. A number of companies are already doing this, basically saying "Your job is being automated, so we're sending you to training for this other thing you will do now"

    Lots of people feel that automation simply 'kills jobs'. It's just a cycle of technology that has been going on literally since the dawn of mankind. Old habits and skills fall out of use with new things. Burger flippers will go the way of lamplighters, criers, switchboard operators, and knocker uppers (Yeah.. I know.)

    In THEORY this will affect the economy. It won't make things simply 'cheaper' because companies are increasing profit margins, however it WILL improve the health of the economy itself. More innovations, more effective systems. This is the kind of thing that leads to Basic Income and the like, where people can work less and make more at education, experienced jobs doing more, rather than living check to check doing a job that is for all intents and purposes, historically worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinpachi View Post
    majority of what work? you say that like it's a fact of life. 20 years isn't long enough for "the majority of work" to be automated. If that actually were to happen, and im assuming you're talking about the manufacturing industry mostly, then there will be a surge of available farming jobs that normally went to the migrants. People get hungry enough they'll do what they gotta do to get by. And you do NOT want to have a universal basic income, that's just fucking lazy thinking. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything from you. Fuck. That.


    render all those college degrees useless?
    In an ideal world automation is used to eliminate the "dumb work" (fileing stuff, typing the same data in excels in 3 different parts of the organization, etc) so employees can actually focus on making stuff better and customer service. In practise, automation is seen as a tool to work cost efficiently and with less FTE's.

    Production has already gone for a big part. Miles of automatic assembly lines, etc. Those will be gone in the next 10 years. Same goes for secretaries, most things math related like HRM, Payroll, finance, government, legal, etc. Militairy will also take a huge blow. Basicly every job where you can narrow the function down to: "if this happens, then that and that and that should happen".

    Those jobs won't dissapear entirely overnight. They will be made so efficiently it can be done with a quarter of the manpower. Leading to 75% of the people working those jobs getting fired.

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    It will lead to what it has lead to constantly--- more specialization of labor, less work required by the populace in general, and more concentration of wealth among the most gifted.

    If we're going to say the majority of work will get eliminated, in the last 100 years the majority of work got eliminated. People used to work 6 days a week up to 80 hours, with their entire family just to make enough food to survive. Now people generally don't work more than 40 hours a week, and often someone working just a full time job is supporting an entire family.

    So if people are scared of less than half the work existing in the next 100 years, they're worrying about the wrong thing, because thats exactly what already happened and everyone is better off.

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    Mass poverty, further centralization of wealth, food riots being put down ruthlessly by corporate warlords and their private armies that even the federal government can't compete with due to lack of funding.

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    There will be no more need for unskilled workers?

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