I wish Garrosh got his way.

[Luckx]

Original Garrosh from TBC was very different from MOP Garrosh.

New developers changed his character alot.

[Tech Priest Bojangles]

I wish we could have at least waited 'till he wiped out the trolls and goblins before we took him down.
Garrosh's Horde would have been brutal. Saronite and spikes everywhere, orcs and axes. I would have liked that.

[Luckx]

It's pretty funny that people consider SoO to be part of WoW's "golden days".

I distinctly remember the bitching on here when SoO lasted for so long....people were saying it killed WoW, etc.

Nostalgia is a funny thing.

It wasnt WOW golden days at all, during mid MOP sub numbers dropped to 7.4 millions, and during Original WOW, TBC and WOTLK sub numbers was growing to 11-12mills and not dropping.

WOTLK storyline was way more epic than MOP one.

[corebit]

If Garrosh had his way, he would have destroyed the Horde and there would be no more Horde to play.

[Halyon]

I didn't mind Garrosh Vs Alliance. But when he started talking about Orc only + executing races within the horde just because, he lost me.

This. I despise Sylvanas as Warchief more though. Still wouldn't take him over her, I'd just very much like to dice Sylvanas. Permanently. I don't know why Blizz is villainizing the prominant WC's and just sidelining the rest...Vol'jin just went out with a cryptic whimper and got fuck all development...

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Anyone who was around for the Hall of the Brave Putsch would definitely have been swayed to his point of view. Garrosh knew how to work a crowd.

Maybe for the simpleminded warmongers.

[Luckx]

I liked TBC Garrosh , also WOTLK Garrosh a bit.

Cata Garrosh was a bit ruined, and MOP Garrosh was nonrealistic and cartoonish.

As for Sylvanas i like how finally whole faction and not just one race got female leader, but Stormheim storyline is horribly lame and cartoonish despite having nothern,viking and undead themes in comprasion to WOTLK zones which also had undead,viking, and nothern themes but was way more epic.

[Themerlin]

I wish breastfeeding was lifelong and not only subjected to infants.


Grown men matter too.

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I was with Garrosh till he was only about Orcs, the last moves from him to make Taurens ans Trolls his enemy made no sense.
Other then that i was pro Garrosh and loved every day being part of his Horde.

[DaGhostDS]

Original Garrosh from TBC was very different from MOP Garrosh.

New developers changed his character alot.

Metzen was with Blizzard for 23 years until last year, i dont see how he was new.

[Seezer]

I've been saying for years that blizzard should have stick with cataclysm Garrosh then the orcs lore would be less of a laughing stock.

Blizzard made a huge mess for the orcs and it still haven't been resolved.

Saying they're a "laughing stock" is severe drama. People rarely even think about it. They just play the game.

[Deleted]

Cataclysm Garrosh was actually good...
at the start of MoP he was even bearable, but as it progressed MoP really made him too cartoonish.

[Stelio Kontos]

Orc Hitler had to go down. I just wish the Alliance had wussied out from doing what needed to be done, but game balance is game balance.

[Martinezzz]

I liked Garosh in WotLK, I was alright with him up to Theramore - but after that he lost me. One thing I always liked about Orcs is that despite their brutish appearance, they're an honorouble race. Mak'gora is just one example of such behaviour . For all the shit Thrall gets, he is a prime example of what an Orc should be. And there was nothing honourable about Theramore.

Thrall so honorable he had to cheat in mak'gora to beat Garrosh.
Remmember in the WOW movie when Guld Dan used powers to beat Durotan orcs were saying look Gul Dan is cheating gues what so did Thrall so dont say he is honorable because he is not

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He was a far better warchief than Vol'jin, and more interesting than Thrall. I would've liked to see how WoD and Legion goes with Garrosh as warchief

Vol jin died on trash he is not a real warchief like Garrosh was

[Deleted]

Garrosh was in fact the only REAL leader(compared to the alliance leaders as well). I don't think we are ever going to have more ambitious and stronger leader than him.

Too bad they made him the bad guy. I would love it to have him, constantly mocking the alliance and in conflict all the time.

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If Garrosh had his way, he would have destroyed the Horde and there would be no more Horde to play.

He would had destroyed the alliance first of all. Then horde. Then the Legion(because he was in contact with Old Gods). Then he would punch Sargeras in the face. And the Old Gods would win. Nothing left, happy days.

[Pull My Finger]

I loved the SOO patch and the entire MOP storyline. But something in me wanted to be standing next to Garrosh during the siege not against him. I agreed with everything he was doing for the greater good of the horde.

Your avatar definitely looks the part.

To me, that was one of the rare moments where the Horde got interesting and relatable - when they rallied against him.

[Dalheim]

It's pretty funny that people consider SoO to be part of WoW's "golden days".

I distinctly remember the bitching on here when SoO lasted for so long....people were saying it killed WoW, etc.

Nostalgia is a funny thing.

Well, MoP and SoO was a good expansion and patch, people just started bitching about SoO because it lasted for 14 months without something new.

[Gaaz]

Garrosh was a bit too much "genocidal maniac" type of character by the end of the MoP. Horde needs a leader that is kind of like Gul'Dan - plotting, methodological, extremely powerful in his own right, focused on dominating his enemies not only though brute strength, but cunning and intelligence. Too bad actual Gul'Dan is out of the question now. Sylvanas is kind of "meh, whatever, could be worse..."

[Nero Stormchester]

Thrall so honorable he had to cheat in mak'gora to beat Garrosh.
Remmember in the WOW movie when Guld Dan used powers to beat Durotan orcs were saying look Gul Dan is cheating gues what so did Thrall so dont say he is honorable because he is not

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Vol jin died on trash he is not a real warchief like Garrosh was

If you're referring to when Thrall uses the elements to put Garosh out of his misery, that wasn't a mak'gora, that was an execution. Thrall never challenged Garrosh to a duel. And Thrall is honourable, you have to be delusional to say otherwise after everything that Thrall has done.

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If you're referring to when Thrall uses the elements to put Garosh out of his misery, that wasn't a mak'gora, that was an execution. Thrall never challenged Garrosh to a duel. And Thrall is honourable, you have to be delusional to say otherwise after everything that Thrall has done.

The rules of mak'gora:

Each participant is allowed one weapon.

A blessing of this weapon by a shaman of their choosing is permitted, but not required.

Body armor is forbidden.

Each participant must have at least one witness.

If both participants refuse to fight one another, they are banished from the clan.

Traditionally, it is to the death, but under Warchief Thrall's rule it became a non-lethal combat, similiar to Warsong's Mak'Rogahn.

Participants can choose to forgo this change.

However, even when operating under the old rules, the victor can choose to spare the loser's life.

Magic is not forbidden, but was unknown to Draenor orcs other than shamanism. Fel magic was always seen as un-natural and twisted and even if it wasn't outright forbidden, you could see why orcs would equate to cheating. You've seen how Illidan looks after being empowered by fell. Besides Garry didn't have a witness.

[Sansnom]

I wish breastfeeding was lifelong and not only subjected to infants.


Grown men matter too.

MoP was not childish, if that is what you are implying. If you cannot see beyond that, that is your own limitations.

[Martinezzz]

[QUOTE=Nero Stormchester;46037874]If you're referring to when Thrall uses the elements to put Garosh out of his misery, that wasn't a mak'gora, that was an execution. Thrall never challenged Garrosh to a duel. And Thrall is honourable, you have to be delusional to say otherwise after everything that Thrall has done.

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Magic is forbiden what are u smoking, so Thrall is not honorable