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  1. #961
    Let's just keep in mind, regardless of what Trump may or may not have done in the past: the President of the United States, in an official statement (because the Spicemaster said Trump's tweets are official), has claimed that someone speaking under oath has lied, without giving a single scrap of evidence to prove this claim. Trump is singlehandedly tarnishing this country and the office he holds, and his drooling sycophants are okay with this.

  2. #962
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Regardless, there is no question that the SCOTUS will hear the full case in October.
    Yes there is. Every result so far has been both bipartisan and still one-sided. 9th hasn't even ruled yet. Plus, again, by October the 90/120 days it was supposed to last will be over by multiple copies of itself. SCOTUS could simply ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserSharkDFB View Post
    without giving a single scrap of evidence to prove this claim.
    He's free to release those 'tapes' whenever he wants. Until then, it's his word against HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA I don't even need to finish that sentence.

  3. #963
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Yes there is. Every result so far has been both bipartisan and still one-sided. 9th hasn't even ruled yet. Plus, again, by October the 90/120 days it was supposed to last will be over by multiple copies of itself. SCOTUS could simply ignore it.
    Remember when this was such a massive emergency that it had to be put into place RIGHT NOW NO WAITING FIRST THING WE DO GIT ER DUN so they created that EO without putting any kind of thought into it? Yeah, that was five months ago. Funny, the country hasn't been burned down by refugees yet. You don't suppose the whole thing was a big scare tactic to make Big Boy Trump feel important, do you?

  4. #964
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    This whole scenario only makes sense if you think that Trump isn't a moron who doesn't know what he's doing and can't keep his mouth shut. And, well...

    The far more likely scenario is that Trump did think he could throw a wrench into the works by firing Comey.
    So he's so incompetent that he successfully managed to usurp the highest office in the land (and world) while successfully covering his tracks/evidence of collusion for over two years and counting?

    Your cognitive dissonance is showing.

  5. #965
    Quote Originally Posted by Lionhearte0 View Post
    So he's so incompetent that he successfully managed to usurp the highest office in the land (and world) while successfully covering his tracks/evidence of collusion for over two years and counting?

    Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
    To the first point: with Russian help, and with the help of a base that has been trained to put party over country, yes. ('I only voted for Trump because it pisses you off lol', is it?)

    To the second point: have you even been watching the investigation? Links to Russia have been falling out of the woodwork, and they knew Trump may have been compromised before he was even sworn in; they even told Trump himself. So yes, Trump is too stupid to be part of an actually secret conspiracy, which is why evidence keeps cropping up.

  6. #966
    Quote Originally Posted by Lionhearte0 View Post
    So he's so incompetent that he successfully managed to usurp the highest office in the land (and world) while successfully covering his tracks/evidence of collusion for over two years and counting?

    Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
    Yes. With russia's help. And lets not forget that 40% of the US would vote for republican, no matter what (even if he's the antichrist), because they lack the cognitive function to think critically (a higher one). Also, a ton of people voted Trumpy just to piss off 'librulz'which is stupid as fuck. Its like pissing off someone who warned you about bleeding out by shooting yourself in the foot with a shotgun, and then dying for the blood loss.
    For your second point. There's a fucking investigation ongoing, with a grand jury. I take that you blinded yourself to that, yes?
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  7. #967
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    i really don't see how you can say that. Folks like me, Stacyrect....were the ones that are constantly laughing and having a good time watching you folks buy into all the MSM Daily Soap Opera. The only folks I see "lashing out" are the anti-Trumpers. Us "Trumpkins" are enjoying the show. Especially on a day like today.
    Not what it looks like from here kek.

    Now excuse me, I need to get more popcorn for the next Trump roast.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tojara View Post
    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  8. #968
    Quote Originally Posted by LaserSharkDFB View Post
    Let's just keep in mind, regardless of what Trump may or may not have done in the past: the President of the United States, in an official statement (because the Spicemaster said Trump's tweets are official), has claimed that someone speaking under oath has lied, without giving a single scrap of evidence to prove this claim. Trump is singlehandedly tarnishing this country and the office he holds, and his drooling sycophants are okay with this.
    According to today's twitter rant Comey lied about everything but also vindicated him and spoke the truth. I am sure his zombie supporters will tout these lines soon enough.

  9. #969
    Even as he's being led to jail, he'll still be saying he was vindicated, and that "I won."
    And then it'll dawn on him that he no longer has a damn cellphone, at which point he'll claim he's being tortured.

  10. #970
    Quote Originally Posted by Lionhearte0 View Post
    So he's so incompetent that he successfully managed to usurp the highest office in the land (and world) while successfully covering his tracks/evidence of collusion for over two years and counting?

    Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
    This is where the grave mistake of the democrats showed, they underestimated how much people hated the Clinton name. The election had two horrible candidates aside from the zealots most people were voting against someone not for, Trump's campaign was a mess without Clinton's help he wouldn't have won. Democrats managed to pick the one candidate that had nearly as many negatives in terms of image as Trump. As for covering his tracks he did a piss poor job as they are breadcrumbs everywhere.

  11. #971
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    As for covering his tracks he did a piss poor job as they are breadcrumbs everywhere.
    Yes, yes, we're all aware that anyone meeting with anyone who is Russian or may have talked with someone from Russia in the past is proof of collusion to influence the election.

    I'm legitimately worried that some posters on this forum have so much constantly circulating adrenaline that they are going to have a heart attack.

    In the end, I'm happy about the Mueller investigation. If something is there, it will come out. If there is not, we go about our business.

    The testimony yesterday was unsurprising. Comey obviously doesn't like Trump (surprise). He confirmed one allegation which, while probably inappropriate, is well within presidential authority and not obstruction of justice. He also forced CNN and ABC to retract a couple of articles by confirming that he told Trump that he was personally not under investigation.
    Last edited by Sargerasraider; 2017-06-09 at 01:05 PM.

  12. #972
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Not what it looks like from here kek.

    Now excuse me, I need to get more popcorn for the next Trump roast.
    I find these trumpettes histerical. Its like reading a crossover between a toddler ranting and a old man ranting
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  13. #973
    Quote Originally Posted by Calamorallo View Post
    Yes, yes, we're all aware that anyone meeting with anyone who is Russian or may have talked with someone from Russia in the past is proof of collusion to influence the election.

    I'm legitimately worried that some posters on this forum have so much constantly circulating adrenaline that they are going to have a heart attack.

    In the end, I'm happy about the Mueller investigation. If something is there, it will come out. If there is not, we go about our business.
    The issue isn't even being connected to Russia. It's who was connected to the Russians they were connected to.

    It's one thing to have business ties to Russia. It's another to have multiple senior campaign officials having their names being circulated in connection to Russian money laundering rings with bread crumb connections to the organizations and oligarchs involved in those same operations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

  14. #974
    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    The issue isn't even being connected to Russia. It's who was connected to the Russians they were connected to.

    It's one thing to have business ties to Russia. It's another to have multiple senior campaign officials having their names being circulated in connection to Russian money laundering rings with bread crumb connections to the organizations and oligarchs involved in those same operations.
    I know it's too much to ask to just let Mueller's investigation go forward and see what actually comes out?

    Several allegations have been shown to be total garbage (except for some of the true believers on this board), but no matter, they just move on to the next "anonymous source" claim. There is an actual investigator who will release an actual report at the end.

    (For those who think I'm a Trumper, I will again say (like I've said in the past). I think Trump was a terrible candidate from the beginning. I think that he is a poor leader and the worst primary candidate for the Republicans. This being said, I'm not going to vote for the other side with whom I have almost no agreement whatsoever).
    Last edited by Sargerasraider; 2017-06-09 at 01:15 PM.

  15. #975
    Comey had reason to be angry:

    “The explanations, the shifting explanations, confused me and increasingly concerned me,” Comey said.
    “The administration then chose to defame me and, more importantly, the FBI by saying that the organization was in disarray, that it was poorly led, that the work force had lost confidence in its leader,” Comey charged.
    “Those were lies, plain and simple.”

  16. #976
    Quote Originally Posted by Calamorallo View Post
    Yes, yes, we're all aware that anyone meeting with anyone who is Russian or may have talked with someone from Russia in the past is proof of collusion to influence the election.

    I'm legitimately worried that some posters on this forum have so much constantly circulating adrenaline that they are going to have a heart attack.

    In the end, I'm happy about the Mueller investigation. If something is there, it will come out. If there is not, we go about our business.

    The testimony yesterday was unsurprising. Comey obviously doesn't like Trump (surprise). He confirmed one allegation which, while probably inappropriate, is well within presidential authority and not obstruction of justice. He also forced CNN and ABC to retract a couple of articles by confirming that he told Trump that he was personally not under investigation.
    Or, you know, repeatedly failing to disclose those meetings and lying about it under oath, trying to set up a back channel using Russian communications, are well outside normal behavior. Is it proof? In and of itself no, but we aren't privy to the details of the investigation, and nor should we be. Expecting concrete proof of collusion at this stage isn't something most people expect, but for some reason people such as yourself think it's some sort of salient talking point.

    Comey's dislike of Trump is irrelevant. His testimony proved that and lends even more credibility to Comey. He avoided drawing conclusions about collusion because he is well aware that is Mueller's job now and him making public pronouncements of it could infect that investigation.

    The POTUS making a statement in such a way that any reasonable person in Comey's decision would take it as a direction is entirely inappropriate, there is no probably about it. It could very well be considered obstruction of justice. Time will tell. It's also sort of important, despite his fumbled rebuttal, to listen to Trump's lawyer crow about how trump wasn't under investigation. It's important because they know he is now...as a result of his own stupidity. Which bolsters Comey's decision to not publicly declare, as Trump requested, that he is not under investigation.

    If you actually listen to the testimony from yesterday, there is so much shit headed Trump's, and his clown show's, way which is going to make it more fun to watch than anything on TV.
    Last edited by NYC17; 2017-06-09 at 01:35 PM.

  17. #977
    Quote Originally Posted by Calamorallo View Post
    I'm legitimately worried that some posters on this forum have so much constantly circulating adrenaline that they are going to have a heart attack.

    In the end, I'm happy about the Mueller investigation. If something is there, it will come out. If there is not, we go about our business.
    I am more worried about Trump supporters who seem to live in a constant state of denial and cognitive dissonance. But at least we agree on Mueller, let's see where it leads I will leave whether it is obstruction of justice to Mueller not Trump zombies. The Truth will come out eventually but as these investigations take a while Trump is going to be a lame duck president as even Trump as stated. He is going to be stuck under the weight of all these inquiries and his agenda is not going to have much movement.

  18. #978
    Quote Originally Posted by Lionhearte0 View Post
    So he's so incompetent that he successfully managed to usurp the highest office in the land (and world) while successfully covering his tracks/evidence of collusion for over two years and counting?

    Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
    How can a person who loses a 1BN dollars running a casino can even be remotely called smart.

    And successful covering his tracks? that has to be seen because it's a ongoing investigation that started with manafort and now it's hitting his son in law (who btw is also a idiot)

  19. #979
    Well, Burr and Warner have a little meet and greet next week. It's likely to compare notes and perhaps coordinate their respective efforts.

  20. #980
    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    Or, you know, repeatedly failing to disclose those meetings and lying about it under oath, trying to set up a back channel using Russian communications, are well outside normal behavior. Is it proof? In and of itself no, but we aren't privy to the details of the investigation, and nor should we be. Expecting concrete proof of collusion at this stage isn't something most people expect, but for some reason people such as yourself think it's some sort of salient talking point.

    Comey's dislike of Trump is irrelevant. His testimony proved that and lends even more credibility to Comey. He avoided drawing conclusions about collusion because he is well aware that is Mueller's job now and him making public pronouncements of it could infect that investigation.

    The POTUS making a statement in such a way that any reasonable person in Comey's decision would take it as a direction is entirely inappropriate, there is no probably about it. It could very well be considered obstruction of justice. Time will tell. It's also sort of important, despite his fumbled rebuttal, to listen to Trump's lawyer crow about how trump wasn't under investigation. It'd important because they know he is now...as a result of his own stupidity. Which bolsters Comey's decision to not publicly declare, as Trump requested, that he is not under investigation.

    If you actually listen to the testimony from yesterday, there is so much shit headed Trump's, and his clown show's, way which is going to make it more fun to watch than anything on TV.
    Again, there is -zero- evidence at this time that anyone in Trump's campaign willfully colluded with the Russians to influence the election. In the end, this is the baseline issue and if there is no evidence of this, then everything above is irrelevant. (This is one of the things I was pointing at before. A claim is made that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. No evidence emerges. This may be a problem for the original people who made the claim, but wait! someone from the Trump campaign met with the Russian ambassador! Maybe they talked about the weather, or vodka, but that meeting happened and it's definitely bad bad bad!)

    Please provide some evidence that Jeff Sessions told someone to hack Podesta's email server. Or anyone else for that matter. And back channels of communication are nothing new (Kennedy and the USSR, Nixon and the USSR, Obama and Iran to negotiate the Iran deal).

    And yes, you need proof. Otherwise, it just looks like you're magically thinking up excuses for why your candidate lost.
    Last edited by Sargerasraider; 2017-06-09 at 01:41 PM.

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