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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi Batman View Post
    Certainly not on here.

    just because you're a raving left wing lunatic, doesn't mean everyone is.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    Do you have a source on this? I'm unfamiliar with the claim and would like to read up on the specifics.
    Google Obama James Rosen. Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I was elated that Obama's reign of bullshit was over.

    You know that too.
    Do I? You seem pretty hard core to the left, on all matters non-military to me. /shrug

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelliak View Post
    I don't like Trump but you've been more than vicious with me in the past, even though I respect you, but didn't ultimately agree. I'm also a very philosophical individual and while I try to source as much of my positions from fact(or as much fact as I can muster this day and age - it gets confusing at times) I find that one's personal philosophy is still important.

    Such as my feelings towards the application of law. You'll notice I am rarely if ever moving no matter the subject.

    I do, somewhat, expect such conflict because I'm much more liberal-leaning than you and most conservatives. I'm definitely the "black sheep" of my family when it comes to politics but unfortunately, don't exactly find myself at home among Democrats either. I'm constantly sandwiched between the two and their bullshit and it's one of the reasons why I likely come across as so sour.

    The "Trumpkins" aren't much worse(if at all) than Hillary's followers or really any group of people who devolve their political views down into a distilled, mouth-puckering vinaigrette of little more than personal angst. I get it. You don't like them. I don't like them as well when all is said and done. I also realize I don't like much else either and that's the big, key difference. This whole system is absolute shit. It has become a circus no matter which side you're on.

    Personally, I think we're better off no longer focusing on one faction or the other and instead trying to view the larger, dysfunctional picture which incorporates so much; otherwise I don't see things getting better. Everyone needs to hold themselves and each other accountable.
    I agree with you here for the most part.

    We've devolved into a partisan, team worshipping, bunch of assholes who are more worried about seeing the other guy fail than they are about seeing the country win.

    We have some serious fucking challenges over the next 50 years. Out of control debt, lower birthrates, slowing economy, rising economies of china....we don't have anything close to the national political unity to confront any challenge, let alone the serious ones.

    Worse yet, if we see a lunatic like Bernie get elected, our economy might never recover.

  4. #124
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    Why waste time arguing with Trump fans? Its clear they are all braindead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogguh View Post
    If I was Trump, and CNN and the NYT was printing all this fake news on me after worshiping Obama for eight years, I would give them no access at all until they both ran a story for a week detailing all the fake news stories they'd written, and a comparison of their bias toward Obama and against me.

    That is one way to run the press freedom even further into the ground.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Google Obama James Rosen. Enjoy.

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    Do I? You seem pretty hard core to the left, on all matters non-military to me. /shrug
    I find Skroe to be a realist with most things, with a keen understanding on how inefficient and ineffective our government can be.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    I agree with you here for the most part.

    We've devolved into a partisan, team worshipping, bunch of assholes who are more worried about seeing the other guy fail than they are about seeing the country win.

    We have some serious fucking challenges over the next 50 years. Out of control debt, lower birthrates, slowing economy, rising economies of china....we don't have anything close to the national political unity to confront any challenge, let alone the serious ones.

    Worse yet, if we see a lunatic like Bernie get elected, our economy might never recover.
    But according to many debt is merely a magical hole you can pull money out of without any limitations nor concern when you're the great United States!

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Small "payback" by the smallest, weakest President in post-World War II America.

    I mean, showing disrespect to one of the major news cable news organizations on earth, and the Newspaper of Record in the United States doesn't make Trump and his administration look effective. It underscores their desperation.
    Weakest President? Are you high, or incredibly stupid? Are you actually one of those brainless zombies that watch CNN (and NYT) and believes it? You cannot be serious. You cannot be THAT dumb. Well, Mark Dice actually proved how dumb Californian actually are....


    CNN is PURE FAKE NEWS. Compost News Network. Crap News Network.

    Go watch Mark Dice on youtube.

    You got some red pilling to do mate, it will be good for you, not just Morally, but in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon-Man View Post
    Weakest President? Are you high, or incredibly stupid? Are you actually one of those brainless zombies that watch CNN (and NYT) and believes it? You cannot be serious. You cannot be THAT dumb. Well, Mark Dice actually proved how dumb Californian actually are....


    CNN is PURE FAKE NEWS. Compost News Network. Crap News Network.

    Go watch Mark Dice on youtube.

    You got some red pilling to do mate, it will be good for you, not just Morally, but in general.
    > YouTube personality

    >known for his conspiracy theories about secret societies such as The Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove events, Satanists and the Illuminati control of the world


    Hon hon hon

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelliak View Post
    But according to many debt is merely a magical hole you can pull money out of without any limitations nor concern when you're the great United States!
    Many like to Quote Keynesian Economics without understanding that, yes you can spend a lot, but it ALSO requires the gov't to pay down debt during times of boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Why waste time arguing with Trump fans? Its clear they are all braindead.




    That is one way to run the press freedom even further into the ground.
    Freedom of the press isn't limited by putting non objective news organizations in the back of the room.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    I find Skroe to be a realist with most things, with a keen understanding on how inefficient and ineffective our government can be.
    Really? I find him to be OUTRAGEOUSLY biased against all things GOP, despite his constant claims of the contrary.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathquoi View Post
    The irony of you citing a CNN opinion piece written by a Trump staffer in this thread has literally killed me. I am dead. Thanks a lot.
    I also find it funny when people like you deflect from the fact you're wrong, by attacking the source, and not the statement.

    Perhaps http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/ja...rump-1.4152794 is more to your liking?

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Really? I find him to be OUTRAGEOUSLY biased against all things GOP, despite his constant claims of the contrary.
    Pre-Trump Skroe was very informative on a vast array of subject matter.

    I haven't read much Post Trump Skroe, as he lurks in the cesspit of MMOC-OT politics which I don't like to post in.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon-Man View Post
    Go watch Mark Dice on youtube.
    Mark Dice is an American video blogger, YouTube personality and author known for his conspiracy theories about secret societies such as The Bilderberg Group, Bohemian Grove events, Satanists and the Illuminati control of the world.
    :
    In June 2008, Dice launched a campaign urging people to send letters and DVDs to troops stationed in Iraq, which supported the theory that the September 11 attacks in 2001 were an "inside job".

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon-Man View Post
    Weakest President? Are you high, or incredibly stupid? Are you actually one of those brainless zombies that watch CNN (and NYT) and believes it? You cannot be serious. You cannot be THAT dumb. Well, Mark Dice actually proved how dumb Californian actually are....


    CNN is PURE FAKE NEWS. Compost News Network. Crap News Network.

    Go watch Mark Dice on youtube.

    You got some red pilling to do mate, it will be good for you, not just Morally, but in general.
    Takes issue with the claim of Weakest President, and then spends a paragraph doing everything but refuting the claim.

    How's the not-weakest President's agenda going? Oh right, defeated by his own party on Healthcare and ignored by his own party on spending. Look at all that strength; look at how much he's been able to not-accomplish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon-Man View Post
    You got some red pilling to do mate, it will be good for you, not just Morally, but in general.
    Red pill is for normies. Take the bogpill and see the truth.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    And that is not fake news. That is, as I pointed out, at the core correct.
    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/ja...rump-1.4152794

    "In the main, it was not true," Comey said.
    My bolding, for emphasis. It is at the core incorrect. The core part of their story is false. You can't spin this any other way. It was a story based on false information. I don't see how you can justify it any other way. Much like the child porn ring story you reference. Both are fake.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Pre-Trump Skroe was very informative on a vast array of subject matter.

    I haven't read much Post Trump Skroe, as he lurks in the cesspit of MMOC-OT politics which I don't like to post in.
    Aside from his military posts, I have never, even one time, seen him espouse a conservative position. He is a convert that doesn't know he was converted yet.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Do I? You seem pretty hard core to the left, on all matters non-military to me. /shrug
    Nice to see you haven't read a single thing I've said about tax policy, the role of government, federalism, drugs, trade or healthcare.

    At the very core of my domestic political philosophy is a desire to move a lot of the responsibilities given to the federal government to the state level. That is pretty doctrinaire conservative. There would be large federal tax cuts, but fairly significant State tax increases to account for this new reality. People living in Kansas can decide what services they want, versus people living in Nevada versus people living in Massachusetts. And they can pay for them too.

    Or how about the role of the family versus the individual, which is at the very heart of conservative philosophy.

    No, I'm pretty fricken conservative. The difference is I'm more sophisticated than the pathologically paranoid gun-hugging knuckledraggers who call themselves "conservative" because they're too stupid to realize that being the opposite to the "liburlz" they despise doesn't necesarily make them conservative. Conservatives actually believe in things.

    I'll just echo what George Will said: Conservatism has been soiled by scowling primitives.

    The fact few people can appreciate what conservatism is because it's been distilled into a cartoon version of it by far right entertainers / shock jocks, and online Trumpkin losers and their motherfucking guns.

    Everything you need to know about the intellectual decline of conservatism comes from this: people who (wrongly) describe themselves as "conservative" are often Second Amendment worshipers, but they don't give two shits about Trump's ongoing emoluments clause violation, which isn't actually in an "Amendment" but Article I of the Constitution itself. You know what that makes them? Really piss poor conservatives.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Really? I find him to be OUTRAGEOUSLY biased against all things GOP, despite his constant claims of the contrary.
    Because some people take issue with their group turning into shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Aside from his military posts, I have never, even one time, seen him espouse a conservative position. He is a convert that doesn't know he was converted yet.
    Uhuh. Wait 'til Trump's gone, and you'll see me go 14 rounds with the liberals I make common cause with right now when it goes to taking this axe:



    To Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

    How's that for liberal? lmao.

    This is what coalitions look like. I play nice with my liberal friends because at this time and place, getting rid of Trump is more important than anything else. My American beliefs supercede my conservative ones. And I'll repeat what I said pre-election: Trump is un-American.
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