Early reports of ISIS leader killed in Airstrike

[Independent voter]

Yeah... I guess you suddenly started to agree with me.

Sweden hasn't done anything to ISIS and ISIS attacked Sweden. I think it nullifies your point about how cowering will fix the Middle East.

[Deleted]

there wil always be a leader... need to destroy them in huge hits, not one by one...

[Dismembered]

there wil always be a leader... need to destroy them in huge hits, not one by one...

You can't destroy an idea, that's the problem.

[Gimlix]

You can't destroy an idea, that's the problem.

Just blow up the whole country.

"Peace is not always the answer" - Jaina Proudmoore.

[HumbleDuck]

I would wait for an official confirmation on this before getting too excited.
If true, then it will be a big hit to ISIS, not that big of a deal when looking at the big picture though.

Shame if true got off far to easy should of been put on trial and executed Iran style.

And what's that style?

[Somewhatconcerned]

Mission Accomplished?

[ParanoiD84]

Sweden hasn't done anything to ISIS and ISIS attacked Sweden. I think it nullifies your point about how cowering will fix the Middle East.

We even let them back in here and give them housing and money, cant get much better for them then that.

Returning jihadis should have their citizenship destroyed and a bullet in the head at the border

[Orby]

...and now he is a martyr I look forward to the endless cycle continuing.. well done world...

[ParanoiD84]

...and now he is a martyr I look forward to the endless cycle continuing.. well done world...

He would/will die anyways, there is 4000 surrounded jihadis in raqqa that will all die.

[alturic]

I would wait for an official confirmation on this before getting too excited.
If true, then it will be a big hit to ISIS, not that big of a deal when looking at the big picture though.

While that seems to be the only site covering this, I don't see how it's not "that big of a deal"? When was the last time AQ was in the news for anything since Bin Laden went to his virgins?

[ParanoiD84]

Isis loosing their two last places including their caliphate capital will hurt their recruitment abit, who likes to join a piece of shit group who cant even defend the caliphate.

[Dismembered]

Still nothing on liveleak.

[HumbleDuck]

While that seems to be the only site covering this, I don't see how it's not "that big of a deal"? When was the last time AQ was in the news for anything since Bin Laden went to his virgins?

Big picture means terrorist activities in general.
As I said, yes, it will hurt ISIS, but nothing will prevent its creators to create a new organization, just like when ISIS got big after Alqaeda got weak.
As long as we don't tackle the roots of the problem ( which IMO are gulf nations) they will fund another one and another one and ...

[Easo]

If true, then it is good news.
And you all doomsayers here, with your "2 new heads" - it does change things. Morale is a thing even amongst them, loss of leadership hurts even them, the possible infighting also weakens them, and so on. You cannot kill the idea, sure, but you can make damn sure that their "country" does not exist.

[Teraparte]

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was supposedly kinda crazy af. Never really dug into it, so I dunno how true it is because of bias and whatnot but from what I once gathered, back on the streets he had a nickname "The Green Man" because he had tons of tattoos. He got locked up started getting deep into Islam, memorized the entire Quaran and upon learning his tattoos were forbidden he cut them all out with a razor blade. Cutting your tats out with a razor is some crazy pain. If he did that w/o any drugs, that's just insane.

Edit for clarity.

[Deleted]

...and now he is a martyr I look forward to the endless cycle continuing..

Yeah, it's natural to think that. But remember what happened when Bin Laden was killed. Al Qaeda seemed to lose prestige and his death did not seem to spark mass recruitment. I think, like Donald Trump, your average would-be jihadi prefers heroes who aren't captured.

[hellhamster]

I'm having dejavu, didn't he already die, allegedly?

[Berengil]

You can't destroy an idea, that's the problem.

Ideas exist in the minds of people. It simply must be made clear that anyone who holds that idea (in this case, terrorism) is marking themselves for death.

[Teraparte]

Ideas exist in the minds of people. It simply must be made clear that anyone who holds that idea (in this case, terrorism) is marking themselves for death.

On one hand I agree with you, but on the other many of these people are convinced that after death they will be rewarded in some paradise. The idea one will be rewarded in the hereafter can be extremely dangerous. About the snake growing other heads, ISIS and similar groups may be destroyed if you kill enough of its leaders, but where the snake grows other heads may not be so much with respect to another leader cropping up, but another organization entirely.

[Yunru]

Problem with those leaders is, that they work like warlords. Kill one, another takes place in power vacume.
Only way to fix this is going by a land to land and convincing people to become civilans again and invest into them.

But that is not gona happen, since a distabilized country means cheap oil.

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On one hand I agree with you, but on the other many of these people are convinced that after death they will be rewarded in some paradise. The idea one will be rewarded in the hereafter can be extremely dangerous. About the snake growing other heads, ISIS and similar groups may be destroyed if you kill enough of its leaders, but where the snake grows other heads may not be so much with respect to another leader cropping up, but another organization entirely.