Pitbulls are Violent Dogs

[Torched]

Your liveleak site gives two other links that give drastically different events that lead to this man's gruesome condition: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=903_1407029402 and https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e09_1409977654. So, not really the best example to give...

Thanks for the heads up, will remove that link

[Rooflesstoofless]

All this tells me is that shitty people with no business owning dogs in the first place are attracted to owning pitbulls. Nothing more.

My neighbors had a pitbull that would come over and play with my sheepdog and two young kids. I had zero reservations with that dog being around my kids. My sheepdog was depressed for a month straight and my kids balled their eyes out when that dog moved away.

[ThatsOurEric]

Some breeds can be more predisposed to aggression, that's due in part to their
genetics. But on the other hand, no two animals are ever the same. As some
posters have mentioned, they've had or encountered Pit Bulls that were incredibly
sweet natured.

The Pit Bull my mother owns as well, is especially playful, friendly, and incredibly
submissive.

[Nuvuk]

Those stats look like biased stats. There is no way those stats look like that even IF pitbulls are the most dangerous, there is no breed that just blows all others out of the water to that degree.

[TirielWoW]

No lol I just asked her about her behavioral training (she hired more than one animal behaviorist for one-on-one time with the dog). I have met several pit bulls that do not act like this one, I honestly don't understand why this dog acts the way it does. I have come to the conclusion that she was probably not socialized properly as a puppy; I do not think she was abused. I've known this person since middle school and we now live in the same city, despite growing up together in Alaska. She's a rather meek/timid and introverted person.

I *think* the problem is that this dog knows that she is a meek/timid person, so she is very protective of her owner. Proper training would have helped with socialization, but I do think genetics is a factor. This dog has a very strong guarding instinct.

I mean...socialization is probably a huge issue right there.

I think I've told this story before, but my mom has a really good friend who has been a dog groomer for forever. Been around tons of dogs . Knows how dogs are. Understands dogs. Has a Great Dane.

No one ever hears bad things about Great Danes, right?

Never socialized dog. Did not neuter dog. Did not train dog. Dog is a fucking menace - a 200lb menace. He's vicious. He's uncontrollable. He's bigger than she is - and he knows it, which is a huge problem.

The dog is a walking time bomb, but so far has not actually gotten loose to attack anyone. So, technically, Great Danes are not "vicious" dogs and he hasn't actually attacked anyone yet, so nothing can be done, even though anyone with half a brain and any experience with dogs can tell the dog is a fatality waiting to happen.

Contrast with my half-Rott, half-Pitt, who was socialized extensively as a puppy, neutered at 3 months old, given obedience training, and has never been allowed to put his mouth on anything or push anyone around (it's cute as a puppy until it's not cute as a 100lb dog). He's calm, friendly, likes people. Would I leave him alone with a small child? No. But I wouldn't leave any dog alone with a small child, because that's just asking for trouble.

People underrate the effects of socialization, spay/neutering, and not having multiple dogs.

[Doctor Funkenstein]

Oh, so you're being literal now even though you were quite content making things up previously.

Can you be a bigger hypocrite? XD "It's okay when I do it, but when someone turns around and uses it on me, I'm going to smack talk them!" <eye roll>

So what exactly is your argument? Are you trying to say that pit bulls aren't inherently a dangerous breed due to their natural temperment, or are they all as soft and cuddly as other breeds like labrador retrievers or great danes? Which is it, exactly? And which would you rather leave with a small, unattended toddler if you had to: A pit bull you just brought home from the pound, or, say, a newfoundland you just brought home from the pound? Coping out by saying "neither" isn't an option.

[Deleted]

If it's anything like around here, every chav who wants to show he's hard brings his mums pittbull out, I imagine they're not the type to train it not to bite.

[Forgottenone]

Pitbulls are more prone to be violent, but if raised properly like others have said they are fine dogs. The problem is, a lot of societies trash own the dogs and fail to raise them properly. I believe they should be available and not banned, but they should require a permit of some sort and special training to be done before being allowed to own one. I'd go so far as to make it necessary to have a yearly visit to a trainer/specialist to ensure the animal/owner is fine.

My other, more selfish concern is that if Pitbulls become banned then the ban train will keep on chugging until Rottweilers are banned. As a Rottie owner I would hate to see that @_@

[Orange Joe]

Pitbulls are more prone to be violent, but if raised properly like others have said they are fine dogs. The problem is, a lot of societies trash own the dogs and fail to raise them properly. I believe they should be available and not banned, but they should require a permit of some sort and special training to be done before being allowed to own one. I'd go so far as to make it necessary to have a yearly visit to a trainer/specialist to ensure the animal/owner is fine.

My other, more selfish concern is that if Pitbulls become banned then the ban train will keep on chugging until Rottweilers are banned. As a Rottie owner I would hate to see that @_@

Incorrect. pitbulls are able todo more damage if they do become violent. Many smaller breeds of dogs are much more "violent" they just don't cause the same damage.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...uahuas/500558/

[Forgottenone]

Incorrect. pitbulls are able todo more damage if they do become violent. Many smaller breeds of dogs are much more "violent" they just don't cause the same damage.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...uahuas/500558/

Ah my mistake.

[ParanoiD84]

It's all how you raise them, for example tons of wannabe gangsters and thugs are getting them for show and i dont think they know anything about raising dogs.

There is plenty of pitbull family dogs out there.

Should make a law that stops idiots from buying dogs.

[Deleted]

I believe it, but I also believe that when raised properly, they can also be the most gentle.

and that pretty much shuts this topic down..

[slime]

I own 2 and have had no problems, so, speak for yourself.

Says every owner... until they do have a problem.

[ParanoiD84]

Says every owner... until they do have a problem.

There is like a million pitbulls/amstaffs out there who have never harmed anyone but lets focus on the small % that does.

[Acidbaron]

I believe it, but I also believe that when raised properly, they can also be the most gentle.

That's all there is to this, don't get a big dog if you can't control it, don't like dominating your dog and treating it as an actual animal so it listens to you this includes smacking it, stay with purse size pets.

Or those cute puppies will grow up starting to walk all over you and if they have certain personalities they can inflict harm on others, including yourself.

[potis]

Man this retarded discussion again.

I love dogs more than anything, cant handle seeing them getting hurt, cant sleep well for a few days afterwards.

But i also have the intelligence to know that a few breeds are dangerous and should be avoided, pitbulls is one of them.

It doesnt matter how it was raised or whatever, thats just naivety and feelings speaking, not logic.

And all you illogical idiots dont understand what you are even reading.

All dogs bite, end of story.

When pitbulls do it though there is a high chance it will turn lethal cause its how they are, they bite and hold, they go for the throat, they go for arteries, they are made to bite and hold on.

I have been bitten by snapping tiny dogs a insane amount of times, its irrelevant, they can barely hurt my leg, they scratch my hand with their teeth, no one cares to report that.

Pitbull fatalities are reported cause they are just that, -fatalities-.

Either way, there is a video from a house camera i saw couple months back, 2 pitbulls minding their business for a good minute, no warnings, the owner is around them, and boom, suddenly one snaps, they try to bite each others neck in the living room, bitch cant do anything to stop them, after a minute someone finally manages to separate them.

I will try to find it :3

[proralph]

I'm okay with the stats, but I thought that German Shepherds were the most dangerous ones

[Thoughtful Trolli]

Unless you're a small child I doubt a pitbull will kill you

A dog certainly cannot kill a human.

However, there are plenty of "humans" flopping around and about who have proven themselves capable of dying to any dog at any given moment, so you're wrong.

But you're only wrong because other people are wrong. You're otherwise right.

[gamingmuscle]

The pitbull people are gonna be pissed at me. Imagine that, a dog that was bred to be a violent fighting dog actually contributes to far more fatalities per year than other dog breeds. It's almost like genetic science and selective breeding work, and no matter how well you "raise your dog to be nonviolent" it is not going to change the dogs physical genetics. Accept the science of genetics and spare me your "cute" pictures of pitbulls with children because I believe in statistics and science not propaganda.

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-sta...ities-2016.php
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-sta...ities-2015.php
http://www.dreamindemon.com/communit...ite-org.82564/

The data is misleading. Assuming each breed has equal chances of attacking, the larger population breeds are going to have the most attacks/deaths. Pit bulls win due to shear population size. Normalize over population size and pitties aren't number one. Mastiffs are last time I checked.

[Fencers]

Plain and simple, you are wrong.

This statement implies that all pitbulls are violent. Which is literally wrong (not all pitbulls have been violent) and the OP stats don't back up such an assertion either, Mr. Science & Statistics.