She-Ra movie possibly in the works

[Banshee Prince]

No it doesn't, unless you're already in the mind-set that white people are superior. It simply acknowledges that white people are a majority of the population of the US and have strong representation in pop-culture and the media.



Okay then, which trans actresses do you think would be suitable for the role but haven't put their names forwards?

I'm not in that mindset but others are, they're reinforcing a white supremacist culture that has existed in America for hundreds of years and that's wrong.

And as I've said I don't know of many trans actors because they're so rarely given big roles. I'm sure plenty sign up but are immediately turned down because of their transness.

[Dhrizzle]

i am into the versions that i like. they're as valid as any. definitely better than any movies they've made.

i guess light deviations are ok. but you shouldn't do major changes, like making doctor doom a fucking hacker loser, or changing someone's race/gender for the sake of it.

You realise this completely undermines your argument that they should stick to the "original" portrayals of characters though? Nowmit's just your opinion on what you consider allowable.

[Doctor Funkenstein]

Black Panther, as king of an isolationist African nation, is one of a few characters whose race I'd consider important to their context (others include Steve Rogers, Ultimate Nick Fury and most characters based on British or European nobility.) With characters like Falcon, Cage and Cho I'd say the race was important to some of their fans (especially characters who were created during the civil rights movement) but not vital to the story. With Bishop and Blade I don't think their race matters much at all (and in the comics Blade is half-British unlike Wesley Snipes, so there has already been a change there.)

I can't really comment on Zorro as he's already been portrayed as a Spaniard and a Mexican and been played by a British actor.

It doesn't matter one fucking bit what you think. If a white guy were to play any of those characters at this time (why you're even bringing up the past is beyond me), the outrage would be insane.

Out of interest, are you avoiding all the MCU movies due to their decision to make Nick Fury African-American?

No, why the fuck do you think I would? "You claim that if a white guy were to play Black Panther or Zorro they'd get all kinds of heat for the decision, THEN U R A RACISTSSSSTTST!!!!!!!11111" I don't even begin to understand what kind of fucked up logic that is.

[derpkitteh]

You realise this completely undermines your argument that they should stick to the "original" portrayals of characters though? Nowmit's just your opinion on what you consider allowable.

i've altered my feelings on it. light deviation is acceptable, though not ideal.

major deviation, like basically a whole different story like warcraft, isn't ok at all.

[Dhrizzle]

I'm not in that mindset but others are, they're reinforcing a white supremacist culture that has existed in America for hundreds of years and that's wrong.

It's rare that I see people using the term "people of colour" whilst advocating for white supremacy, usually it's used by people trying to redress imbalances caused by historic and current racism. Like I said you need to try to keep up if you want to get so passionate about these types of things, the "politically correct" language can change rapidly as previously acceptable terms become offensive and something new becomes PC.

And as I've said I don't know of many trans actors because they're so rarely given big roles. I'm sure plenty sign up but are immediately turned down because of their transness.

It doesn't do your position much good if you're campaigning for individuals you can't make and aren't even sure exist.

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i am into the versions that i like. they're as valid as any. definitely better than any movies they've made.

i guess light deviations are ok. but you shouldn't do major changes, like making doctor doom a fucking hacker loser, or changing someone's race/gender for the sake of it.

In the animated Iron Man how long did it take Tony to reveal he was Iron Man, not his bodyguard, and how did they handle his battle with alcoholism?

[Doctor Amadeus]

King Randor fathered them both with queen Marlena. Unless they rewrite her character and their relationship, it'd be tough to explain the different race.

A set of twins can have the same mom and dad, although rare sure as hell more likely than turning invisible at will without technology for a human being or turning ones body into a torch. But then again the last guy that did that became Captain America. I guess every little detail isn't important to suspend ones belief and watch a supper hero movie.

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If you whitewash a character that is considered the greatest sin, but if you make a white character black instead that is perfectly fine ...
Stick to the source material damn it. If it's white it's white, if it's blue it's blue, and if it's black it's black. Don't change things just to fill some imaginary diversity quota.

Probably because it has been a long standing tradition a lot longer to white wash than the other way around only white people didn't bitch cause it wasn't happening to them.

[Banshee Prince]

It doesn't do your position much good if you're campaigning for individuals you can't make and aren't even sure exist.

Of course they exist. Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm pretty sure Caitlyn Jenner did some acting at some point.

[derpkitteh]

In the animated Iron Man how long did it take Tony to reveal he was Iron Man, not his bodyguard, and how did they handle his battle with alcoholism?

considering it's a cartoon, they probably didn't cover the alcoholism. as for the bodyguard bit, idk, it's been like 7 or 8 years since it was on disney xd. i can't remember much.

[Witchblade77]

I'm just going to leave this here http://www.firstforwomen.com/posts/b...collage-152096

[Doctor Amadeus]

If they made movies so each individual was happy they would show porn in theaters again._Let them reboot deepthroat and let people bitch about source material on that. Why not just cast Annie Sprinkle again!

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considering it's a cartoon, they probably didn't cover the alcoholism. as for the bodyguard bit, idk, it's been like 7 or 8 years since it was on disney xd. i can't remember much.

Yeah but you're complaining about source material so naturally you change the channel right?

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I'm just going to leave this here http://www.firstforwomen.com/posts/b...collage-152096

Yep both beautiful and could play invisible woman. As long as they can act and the writing works.

[Mehrunes]

Let's ignore for a moment your assumption that the groups which benefit from affirmative action are somehow inferior and couldn't possibly be as good at a job as the demographic that currently has high representation; why does your attitude not extend to actors? If the actor who best plays She-Ra doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes why do you think they should be passed over for a person with less suitable skills but pigmentation you prefer?

Except that if one wants their adaptation to be truthful to the source material, acting in them is one of the fields where the pigmentation is actually relevant to the job. Which, at least from the perspective of a person with such a view, makes this a false equivalence.

BTW were you livid about Ant-Man being Scott Lang in his movie, or are you okay with replacements as long as they tick the "right" demographic boxes?

Scott Lang was one of the people to take the Ant-Man mantle in the comics (in late 70s) and the movie was an adaptation of his story. And Hank Pym was still Ant-Man in MCU, just in the past. Serving a role similar in few ways to the one he did in Scott Lang's comic. You're flailing at random with your examples right now. And not very effectively.

[derpkitteh]

Yeah but you're complaining about source material so naturally you change the channel right?

i mean, marvel and dc do this alternate universe shit in the comics all the time, so you have to give them a bit of leeway.

just some things shouldn't be changed. race, gender, sexuality, these are things that are defining traits of a character. if you change one, it's not that character anymore. it's as bad as changing their motivations.

like, idk if you remember, but there was an egypt movie that featured mostly pale people, and i was pretty upset over that. when you know someone looks a certain way, you don't change it.

then there's that godawful edgelord joker from suicide squad, and his non-abusive relationship with harley. that was a fucking travesty.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Imagine black panther as a white guy, or storm

If the writing and acting was good enough then I don't care.

[Doctor Amadeus]

i mean, marvel and dc do this alternate universe shit in the comics all the time, so you have to give them a bit of leeway.

just some things shouldn't be changed. race, gender, sexuality, these are things that are defining traits of a character. if you change one, it's not that character anymore. it's as bad as changing their motivations.

like, idk if you remember, but there was an egypt movie that featured mostly pale people, and i was pretty upset over that. when you know someone looks a certain way, you don't change it.

then there's that godawful edgelord joker from suicide squad, and his non-abusive relationship with harley. that was a fucking travesty.

Well now you're changing what you said. You stated you don't like anything changed, but now you fall back to it being race, which is it?

And for the record I'm a person of color and I preferred the human torch just being a white guy, but that doesn't make for a bad film, or me having anything but a biased opinion.

It ultimately only matters how well the production is.

[Kuntantee]

women of color? What the fuck that's supposed to mean?

[Jtbrig7390]

if it's not 1:1, it might as well not even be named she-ra, warcraft, or whatever else. could slap any other name on it and it'd be just generic random movie and it'd fit.

if you want to make some random movie about a black heroine, do it. don't take an existing property and change the story, it's idiotic.

Shit its almost like different artist have different vision's of something. If u want 1:1 go watch the source material. Some of us like to experience new things but in the same universe.

Kinda why I love both versions of Full Metal Alchemist. By ur logic Brotherhood shouldn't have happen because it isn't 1:1 with the original.

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Given the source material has her as He-Man's sister, both are white, both parents are white, changing her race purely for the SWJ effect is beyond nutso. It isn't exactly kosher to bitch about someone white playing a non-white race based character and then say it's perfectly OK to change up the original material just for "diversity's sake".

Once again this isn't 1:1 with the source material. If I wanted 1:1 with the source material I wouldn't just read/watch it.

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it's not about being a different race. it's about being EXACTLY like the source material.

if he sneezes in a scene of the movie and that sneeze wasn't in the original, i don't like it.

Your life must be really boring if everything has to be the same.

Don't like to experience new things?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

http://comicbooksgalaxy.com/7-actres...ning-john-chu/

I was excited until I read



I hope it's not live action or it'll be over before it started. Live actions are always bad but giving He-Man a black twin.......They need to learn from Fantastic Four.

Oops, wrong subforum, please move.

who cares what color they are if there a good actor i couldn't care less. and interracial couples can have a black and white twins if there mother was white sue and johnny could have been twins still and it would make perfect sense.

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They rewrote his ties to her to excuse his heritage.

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Her healing powers, friends, and sword changing abilities were awesome.......but Orko > everyone.

you don't have to rewite any ties to have one black and one white kid.

[derpkitteh]

Well now you're changing what you said. You stated you don't like anything changed, but now you fall back to it being race, which is it?

And for the record I'm a person of color and I preferred the human torch just being a white guy, but that doesn't make for a bad film, or me having anything but a biased opinion.

It ultimately only matters how well the production is.

it doesn't make for a bad film really, but it is annoying.

it's not as extreme as say, what blizzard did with warcraft. that movie is unwatchable, it's too different. but it's still terrible and i feel annoyed the whole time.

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Shit its almost like different artist have different vision's of something. If u want 1:1 go watch the source material. Some of us like to experience new things but in the same universe.

Kinda why I love both versions of Full Metal Alchemist. By ur logic Brotherhood shouldn't have happen because it isn't 1:1 with the original.

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Your life must be really boring if everything has to be the same.

Don't like to experience new things?

i do liek to experience new things. as an advancement of the current story, not as a replacement of it.

it really varies what i want things to be 1:1 on, i guess. warcraft? that should have been 1:1, whatever that movie was, it wasn't warcraft. changing a character's race/gender/motivations, that's too extreme.

but, i'm kinda bored with this now. either it'll be good or it'll be bad, if they change her race it'll be bad because that's entirely changing all of he-man universe. so whatever.

[Doctor Amadeus]

women of color? What the fuck that's supposed to mean?

Women who are also not white who's skin complexion has color do to being a different race than just white.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

if it's not 1:1, it might as well not even be named she-ra, warcraft, or whatever else. could slap any other name on it and it'd be just generic random movie and it'd fit.

if you want to make some random movie about a black heroine, do it. don't take an existing property and change the story, it's idiotic.

so what you don't watch any movies based on any thing because there never 1 to 1.