seems like a lot of hype for black panther, but they havent really shown us anything to get hyped about.
seems like a lot of hype for black panther, but they havent really shown us anything to get hyped about.
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Honestly, the scene between Zemo and BP at the end of Civil War is one of the strongest, most emotionally powerful scenes in the entire MCU so far. And it showed a lot about the character of BP, his sense of justice, as well as gave Zemo a lot of sympathy. I don't get why that scene doesn't get as much attention as it deserves.
Anyways, BP looks interesting to me, but I'm worried about it being all flash and style and little substance. We will see soon enough though.
I really liked him in CW.
Clint: I don't think we've been properly introduced. I'm..
T'challa: I don't care.
And Tony WAS RIGHT. Sort of. I mean, they did generate a shit ton of collateral damage.
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Yeah... outside of the first captain america movie, I have the Thor movies at the bottom of the MCU list, yet I like the character Thor in everything else (lol that end scene in Dr. Strange), so i'll stream the next Thor movie and hope I pay enough attention to enjoy it.
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lol I like the gays just fine. That hair thing though... is/are he/they payinhg homage to Prince?
Yeah that was a great line, plus his scene with Zemo at the end was one of the best in the whole film.
Tony was right, but for the wrong reasons. He basically fucked up royally by creating Ultron, and then blamed Cappy for not agreeing with him when he over reacted to everyone hating on him for it.
Then, he compounds his wrongness; after constantly telling Cappy to do what the council says, and not to make it emotional (Because it was to do with Bucky), then IMMEDIATLY ignores the council when he stops agreeing with them, and makes it emotional when it turns out he's emotionally invested in it (because of his parents).
Damnit... Now I want to watching Civil War again XD.
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He might try to overact it.
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True for all of it, but the initial argument. Might you, I've always been TeamStark... until Civil War, where the ideology stance, I'm TeamCap. It's a combination... you need freedoms, but you also need accountability. And really... who is to blame T'Challa, Steve or Tony for reaching emotionally to all 4 (parents and War Machine) highly impactive and recent events to each. That is where Tony's judgement is off and all 3 should have been stopped allowing for the other avengers to take charge.
CW was fun as hell, i wish i wasn't at work, i'd probably throw it on as well.
Tbh, there WAS blame on both side... If Cappy had just signed the god damn treaty at the start instead of arguing over Scarlet Witch, they could have hashed it out and found some kind of balance, Then Cappy would have ended up becoming Director of SHIELD and would have had the power to make real change.
That wouldn't have been as fun a film though XD.
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So should they just...not have acted then, and let Ultron destroy the actual literal planet? Cause, umm, well...if they hadn't, literally every single person who died to them acting would have been JUST as dead as if they hadn't acted...long with billions of other people. Same thing in New York. Even Wanda's handling of Crossbone's bomb would have killed a lot more people if she hadn't done it the way she did.
Loved Creed.
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And there-in lies the conflict. Should we be mad that ScarWitch killed these 20 over here, instead of letting these 40 over here die? Unavoidable in many instances, which was sort of why they brawled in a civilian-less airport.
Wasn't that guardian of the galaxy 2? Am I the only one that felt that movie didn't deliver? My wife and I went and see it and WW on the same day, wasn't expecting much from WW but was pleasantly surprised, was expecting a lot from GotG2 and was so damn dissapointed.
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Exactly. It's an unavoidable consequence of battle. If ISIS gets a nuke, should we not destroy it, even if it results in civilians dying? If some guy with a suicide vest and a hostage is charging towards a crowd with his hand on the detonator, should we not take the shot and let him blow up the crowd, rather than just losing the hostage? The answer is obvious.
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I found it rather lacking as well. Much of the humor didn't work for me, there was a lot of stuff that was in the movie solely to drag out the run time(seriously, if the Sovereigns had never returned after the opening sequence, it wouldn't have mattered in the least), the team dynamic(which was part of what made the first 1 so good) was disrupted by splitting the team(and letting one of the halves be saddled with a terrible performance from the girl that played Nebula) for much of the movie, and the main villain turned into a complete moron at the end, which then resulted in a big but hollow, effects heavy climactic battle against light tentacles.
The main issue for me was them basically ignoring most of the real causes in favor of blaming the Avengers, no matter how obtuse. NY would have happened either way, and been much worse on either a global scale or just a local scale if they had succeeded in NUKING NY. Avengers 2 of course, Hulk was the early problem, so certainly they should have addressed such a thing, and Ultron is Tony's fault, so his agreeing with the Treaty when he was the main one that should have been limited, bleh.
That brings us to Cap2, where for some reason the Avengers are overseas looking for criminals, which you'd think there were other agencies for and I'm not really sure how the Avengers got some kind of intelligence network? But they can't figure out the difference between AR15 and M16/M4, let alone to stop a fucking garbage truck BEFORE it rams a place, so whatever. In the end, some guy blows himself up and they get blamed for a suicide bomber.
So yeah, Tony is right that there should be some oversight of the Avengers, but it seems to get folded into an international organization that already exists and is apparently mostly incompetent. Add in SHIELD's failings as an international agency (I think), and tying the Avengers to the UN is an odd theory. Tony exists under the delusion that an oversight comittee means "good people", while they focus on some barely known African nation and avoid Iran wanting to use the Hulk to kill all Jews or something.
I mean, I get that the movies are bigger than the US Market, so they want to be inclusive, but they could have at least scaled it back to NATO if not a specifically USA team.
To tie it back to the topic though, why was Wakanda speaking anyway?
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Civil War made no sense. (I want to believe Joss Whedon had nothing to do with that script). It was supposed to be the third Capt America movie but didn't feel at all like it. and then there was just too much stupid going on all around to justify a fight between our good guys.
And I refuse to even consider GoTG or Thor.
I am looking forward to Black Panther however.
Aside from Wakanda itself, this movie and it's lead looks insanely boring, uninspired, and dull. The only thing he has going for him is the look of the suit and the aforementioned look of Wakanda, which is the definition of "shallow."
I'm sure it'll do moderately well, at least the first week or two, but that'll be about that. Seriously doubt he'll be getting a sequel so much as relegated to being a background/secondary character in other movies. If he's that lucky, seeing how fucking dull he is (and was in his previous appearance).
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