It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
Last edited by Kujako; 2017-06-19 at 06:42 PM.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
"Obamacare will lead to Death Panels!"
No they won't.
8 years later....
"We're repealing Obamacare, letting insurance companies bugger our elderly and disabled on premiums, and letting the 1% skim off the top. This will remove insurance from about 23 million people, some/many of which will die as a result of the insurance companies policies."
I guess they were right, passing Obamacare DID lead to Death Panels.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/11/politi...man/index.html
8 years later, some elected Republicans are still lying about it : D
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
Wow. Is that how you always react when caught claiming an unwelcome reality is a hypothetical? Because damn did you jump topics on that one.
And yes, the changes suggested by the GOP can, and will, affect people unaffected by the ACA. That's not fearmongering. That's analysis. There is a difference between things you don't like, and actual facts.
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"That article" I linked three dude, all about the Senate GOP health care plan. If you're not going to even pretend to read the information you might not want to talk about it.
In many ways he did.
I'm not saying I like Obamacare.
What I am saying is that it was a case of redistributing. I saw it first hand in the bills I write and pay.
Pre-Obamacare, I had great coverage. No limits, $10 co-pays for doctor visits, and maybe $5-10 for name brand pharmaceuticals. ~$200/month
Pre-Obamacare, my parents had similar coverage, but their rates (combined) were ~$1500/month, or ~$750/month each.
Post-Obamacare, my costs for the same insurance went up to (currently) ~$480/month
my parents went to approx ~$400 combined or ~$200/month each.
All Obamacare did, was shift costs to people in the average working age category, and lower it for those that actually aren't able to work as much.
It did nothing for the actual costs of care. Those continue to go up, and therein lies my greatest critique. It still shackles you to the Insurance Industry and they know they're getting money, so they continue to rake the populace over the coals for health care costs. It only ever changed who actually paid for it.
The republican plan equally does nothing for costs. Prices will continue to go up (Just look up Martin Shkreli, or Mylan as examples), you just go back to screwing over the old people.
In the end, nothing changes.
Pretty sure they still need Democrat support for it to pass.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
-Kujako-
I wouldn't bet on it. From what I'm seeing, the goal of the Republicans is to completely crash the ACA through withholding all funding, let all of the companies attached to it drop their contracts, and blame the Democrats for Obamacare failing. The bluffing period is already passed; companies are pulling out now. Depending on one's degree of cynicism, they may or may not have any sort of backup plan for replacing it.
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Despite earlier claims by GOP Senators of nothing being possible August, or even this year, it looks like they're going for it.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...cted-next-week
Senate GOP leader: Health vote expected next week
52 is a dangerous number to play with, but then, so was 216. This reads to me like, in order to use the "nuclear" option, they must make a bill that has no effect on the deficit or debt. And, apparently, that means steep Medicaid cuts. Incidentally, hospitals have said the Medicaid cuts will cause severe damage and the Republican Study Committee have warned that such cuts don't go far enough[/url], asking (for example) for no tax credits for any insurance plan that covers abortions. Like the House bill, it sounds like they want this one voted on before people have a chance to see how toxic it is, and most importantly, before the CBO report comes out.Senate Republicans are planning to vote next week on their bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare, according to Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.).
"I believe we’re going to vote before the Fourth of July recess on a healthcare plan, a repeal and replacement of ObamaCare," Barrasso, a member of GOP leadership, said on Fox News.
"Every Republican is trying to get to yes," Barrasso said while noting, "There are some differences of opinion on specific details of this."
The vote by the end of the month was expected, as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) wants to move quickly on healthcare and get on to other issues.
The timeline is fast, though, given that lawmakers and the public have not yet seen the text of a bill. That could come later this week.
Republicans have already sent pieces of a bill to the Congressional Budget Office, but the CBO will have to issue an analysis, known as a score, once the bill comes together.
It remains unclear if Republicans have the votes to pass the bill. There is no deal yet on a range of contentious issues, ranging from phasing out ObamaCare's Medicaid expansion to repealing pre-existing condition rules.
Senate Republicans are considering even deeper cuts to Medicaid than the House bill, which could repel some moderates.
So, yes, they're drafting it in shadow and keeping it in secret as long as they can, because they know how unpopular it will be.
Party before country, ladies and gentlemen.
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