Wolfgang Schäuble to Muslim migrants: If you don’t like Europe, leave

[Daneman]

Muslim migrants are welcome in Germany but “have to accept our way of life,” German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble said.

If they don’t like Europe’s culture, they have made “the wrong decision” in moving to the Continent, Schäuble said during a panel discussion in Berlin Wednesday evening, according to local media.

“There are better places in the world to live under Islamic law than Europe,” he added.

On the upcoming French presidential election, the finance minister said Germany needed “a pro-European France.”

“We need France to hold together Europe,” he said, adding that he hoped far-right candidate Marine Le Pen would not become president.

On Tuesday, the conservative politician said he would vote for independent candidate Emmanuel Macron if he were French, rather than the center-right’s François Fillon.

http://www.politico.eu/article/wolfg...-europe-leave/

I know the french election is over! Here's someone who is talking sense though! From germany of all places!!!

[announced]

immigration 101.
Integrate into the society of the country you move to if you want to live there.

Why is this even newsworthy?

cause his words would be considered hate speech by most on the left.

[RickJamesLich]

Someone is speaking common sense? Burn them at the stake!

[kail]

Goes without saying...

[Klingers]

This is a VERY Australian attitude too. We like to consider ourselves a very open country but you can sum our attitude up as "Welcome! Have a beer. Hug a koala. Bring the best parts of your culture. Share them. Learn English. Integrate into the community. Respect other religions. Remember you live in a society with secular laws. If that's too hard, fuck off."

[Kaleredar]

cause his words would be considered hate speech by most on the left.

More precisely, the right expects immigrants coming in with almost nothing to integrate with as little aid from the country they're immigrating to as possible, stay as far removed from the local population as possible, and are then surprised when they don't integrate.

You want people to integrate? Put in plans to make people integrate. Don't bitch and moan that a system you aren't supporting isn't working.

[Deleted]

More precisely, the right expects immigrants coming in with almost nothing to integrate with as little aid from the country they're immigrating to as possible, stay as far removed from the local population as possible, and are then surprised when they don't integrate.

You want people to integrate? Put in plans to make people integrate. Don't bitch and moan that a system you aren't supporting isn't working.

BS. The system in place allowed southern europeans to integrate, polish to integrate, russians to integrate, jews to integrate, vietnamese to integrate. We all know, who exactly is effing unable to integrate.

[s_bushido]

This sentiment is fucking garbage. People are discontented and ask for change in their societies all the time. You can't tell everyone to leave because they want to take steps that they think would improve their lives where they're living.

[prwraith]

I can support this.

Move to a country, don't be a bunch of dicks. Or get thrown out.

[Tackhisis]

But they won't leave. They will remain and continue to dehumanize the natives by their example.

[Kaleredar]

BS. The system in place allowed southern europeans to integrate, polish to integrate, russians to integrate, jews to integrate, vietnamese to integrate. We all know, who exactly is effing unable to integrate.

Then change your tactics.

[ohiostate124]

Makes sense. Why would you go to a new country for a better life and then try to turn it into the one you left? You change to fit in with the new country. Not the opposite.

[Zeta333]

This sentiment is fucking garbage. People are discontented and ask for change in their societies all the time. You can't tell everyone to leave because they want to take steps that they think would improve their lives where they're living.

implementing sharia law isnt improving anything.

[ohiostate124]

Then change your tactics.

If the tactics work for every group but one, it's probably not the tactics that are the problem.

[PACOX]

The sentiment only makes sense if they are being welcomed and given a fair chance to integrate in the first place. Know the way my country treated immigrants, even people who were 2nd, 3rd generation, I'm suspicious of people claiming immigrants are given honest chances.

[Ichifails]

More precisely, the right expects immigrants coming in with almost nothing to integrate with as little aid from the country they're immigrating to as possible, stay as far removed from the local population as possible, and are then surprised when they don't integrate.

You want people to integrate? Put in plans to make people integrate. Don't bitch and moan that a system you aren't supporting isn't working.

If you need massive assistance to integrate then you should be outright denied. Integration is 100% the responsibility of the migrant and not the country he's migrating to.

[Kalis]

You want people to integrate? Put in plans to make people integrate. Don't bitch and moan that a system you aren't supporting isn't working.

The plan is the immigrants work their arses off to integrate and if they cannot be bothered to do that, then they can leave.

If they need things like language courses, then they should have thought about that before immigrating.

[xcitng]

This is a VERY Australian attitude too. We like to consider ourselves a very open country but you can sum our attitude up as "Welcome! Have a beer. Hug a koala. Bring the best parts of your culture. Share them. Learn English. Integrate into the community. Respect other religions. Remember you live in a society with secular laws. If that's too hard, fuck off."

You say that but we are opening mosques, some maccas places have removed bacon from the menu, merry christmas is being replaced by happy holidays around Australia and the list goes on, I wish it were like you are saying but its fast becoming the complete opposite.

[Kaleredar]

If the tactics work for every group but one, it's probably not the tactics that are the problem.

That's a great thought and all, but seeing as the only result is that you end up with a bunch of not-integrated people, and ardently maintaining that "well THEY should integrate..." doesn't do anything either... yeah, you're still not solving the problem. Just trying to absolve yourself of guilt over something you're not doing anything about.

...which also, guess what, doesn't solve the problem.

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If you need massive assistance to integrate then you should be outright denied. Integration is 100% the responsibility of the migrant and not the country he's migrating to.

The plan is the immigrants work their arses off to integrate and if they cannot be bothered to do that, then they can leave.

If they need things like language courses, then they should have thought about that before immigrating.

Hindsight is 20/20, but you know what it doesn't do?

Help you with the current situation.


So you have these immigrants in Europe that people are bitching and moaning wont integrate, are doing nothing to help immigrants integrate, and are generally just doing nothing about?

And you expect the situation to change?


Are you going to mass deport them? No. That isn't going to happen. The logistics of it alone are preventative, not to mention the human rights issues involved in deporting thousands of men, women, and children back to active war zones.

So you're faced with a dilemma: help the immigrants integrate, or sit around and do nothing and expect them to integrate. The latter hasn't worked. Are you still going to champion it based on the notion of "well they SHOULD HAVE INTEGRATED..." and "it should be THEIR RESPONSIBILITY!" while absolutely nothing gets done and, accordingly, the situation doesn't change?

Where, precisely, do you think that's going to lead you? I'm actually very interested in where you think the current course of action of "they should have integrated, they're here and not integrated and we don't like it, but we wont do anything about it!" will lead.


I'm hearing lots of complaining. Not very many solutions.

[Darkeon]

Sounds like a reasonable quote and one I can agree with.