Wolfgang Schäuble to Muslim migrants: If you don’t like Europe, leave

[Kathandira]

If I were leaving my country, it would be because I was looking for a new way of life. Not looking for a change in scenery, but expecting to keep my old way of life. It should be quite obvious that you would have to assimilate into the culture of your new home.

[Aggrophobic]

If she thinks it's a cesspool of political bullshit and not a gaming community, she's visiting the wrong subforums. The WoW forums and the gaming forums are still quite active.

The "bullshit" is posted on the front page though. I mean if you see plotical topics there it's enough to turn some people away, as it clearly has already.

[Slant]

The "bullshit" is posted on the front page though. I mean if you see plotical topics there it's enough to turn some people away, as it clearly has already.

You can adjust the settings so you don't get subforums that you don't like displayed in the Recent Post section.

[Aggrophobic]

You can adjust the settings so you don't get subforums that you don't like displayed in the Recent Post section.

I know, most people that just come here as viewers probably do not.
When they let people such as the OP go around posting shit like he does week after week it's going to have consequences and it's hardly a surprise when people label MMO-C as filled with trolling and political bullshit. The OP is hardly alone after all.

[Kuntantee]

Not really.. They just need to obey the law. And the name of the guy "wolf gang", sounds like a porn movie title, no disrespect to Mozart tho..

[Daneman]

Not really.. They just need to obey the law. And the name of the guy "wolf gang", sounds like a porn movie title, no disrespect to Mozart tho..

Nope. They are culturally incompatible with our societies.

[Slant]

Nope. They are culturally incompatible with our societies.

There is not a constitution in the western world that guarantees your culture to stay the way it is. So no, cultural incompatibility is not a valid argument. When Kuntantee says they just need to obey the law, he is technically correct.

[Daneman]

There is not a constitution in the western world that guarantees your culture to stay the way it is. So no, cultural incompatibility is not a valid argument. When Kuntantee says they just need to obey the law, he is technically correct.

Yes, it is a perfectly valid argument. The law is not the only thing they need to follow for people to accept them. I guess you think the law is the only thing people should care about? Fuck the social aspects of society? People who had sex with animals used to follow the law, they were looked upon with scorn either way for being degenerates.

[phyx]

I like it how a Swedish guy is a massive proponent of 'speak Swedish or GTFO' when Sweden is at the same time benefiting A LOT from people moving in that DO NOT speak the language. Things like Tech scene in Sweden wouldn't not exist thanks to people like you. Innovation would grind to a halt. Example: Why in the hell would a coder be required to learn Swedish before he moves there, when he can just as easily move to either UK or US, without having to learn an obscure language like Swedish? Or any other country that wouldn't have such a ridiculous requirement. You do realize the job market, especially the high skill one, would take an absolute beating.
Norwegian oil prosperity would maybe look a bit different if it wasn't for an Iranian guy that basically built everything from the ground up and showed them how to manage their oil.
Learn it eventually - sure. If English works (Scandinavia, Netherlands), you can work with pretty much everyone. Hell, people already started talking about making English as one of the official languages in SWE/NO.

Source: Living in Norway, loving it, not speaking the language all that good. Having a great time. Will eventually learn the language. Been here for 3 years.

[satimy]

There is not a constitution in the western world that guarantees your culture to stay the way it is. So no, cultural incompatibility is not a valid argument. When Kuntantee says they just need to obey the law, he is technically correct.

Which is why people are opposed to immigration from people of radically different cultures

[Slant]

Yes, it is a perfectly valid argument. The law is not the only thing they need to follow for people to accept them. I guess you think the law is the only thing people should care about? Fuck the social aspects of society? People who had sex with animals used to follow the law, they were looked upon with scorn either way for being degenerates.

Who decides what's culturally incompatible? You? Denmark let those people in according to the law. And now you're upset that they fast during Ramadan? How exactly is that affecting you?

Just to be clear, I'm not even defending any opinion or showing my actual position here. I'm just attacking your weak ass bullshit argument born out of Xenophobia. Cultures change over the time. You need to grow up and deal with that. Because just twenty years ago it was an entirely different Denmark than it was 2 years ago when you did not consider refugees to be a problem, because they didn't exist, yet.

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Which is why people are opposed to immigration from people of radically different cultures

Being opposed per se isn't the problem. Being an idiot about it is the problem. And racists are still the stupidest bunch of them all, as you can see everytime one of them tries to use the novel concept of "words" to get his point across.

[satimy]

Who decides what's culturally incompatible? You? Denmark let those people in according to the law. And now you're upset that they fast during Ramadan? How exactly is that affecting you?

Just to be clear, I'm not even defending any opinion or showing my actual position here. I'm just attacking your weak ass bullshit argument born out of Xenophobia. Cultures change over the time. You need to grow up and deal with that. Because just twenty years ago it was an entirely different Denmark than it was 2 years ago when you did not consider refugees to be a problem, because they didn't exist, yet.

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Being opposed per se isn't the problem. Being an idiot about it is the problem. And racists are still the stupidest bunch of them all, as you can see everytime one of them tries to use the novel concept of "words" to get his point across.

You just admitted that there is no legal protection from a danish culture turning into a muslim culture, if youre Danish and don't want to live under shariah then what you are saying is that you either shouldnt let them in or do so in very small amounts.

[Slant]

You just admitted that there is no legal protection from a danish culture turning into a muslim culture, if youre Danish and don't want to live under shariah then what you are saying is that you either shouldnt let them in or do so in very small amounts.

I'm not sure how I can phrase this without getting an infraction, so bear with me and ask me if you have any questions...

What kind of drug exactly made you think that a) Sharia is an actual law in any western nation, b) any western nation somehow gave up exclusivity of their legal system to allow a parallel legal system to rule the nation, c) that Sharia law even applies to non-Muslims and why the fuck are you coming up with the arguably most ridiculous notion that I have seen on this forum for a long, long time... Mind you, I have seen a lot of shit here, but what the actual fuck is going on in your head if you think a Muslim can force an actual Dane to live under Sharia law in Denmark?

Sheesh... what a misconception.

P.S.: Remember, ask me if you have questions about anything. Don't follow up with an even stupider post. You can do better than that.

[satimy]

I'm not sure how I can phrase this without getting an infraction, so bear with me and ask me if you have any questions...

What kind of drug exactly made you think that a) Sharia is an actual law in any western nation, b) any western nation somehow gave up exclusivity of their legal system to allow a parallel legal system to rule the nation, c) that Sharia law even applies to non-Muslims and why the fuck are you coming up with the arguably most ridiculous notion that I have seen on this forum for a long, long time... Mind you, I have seen a lot of shit here, but what the actual fuck is going on in your head if you think a Muslim can force an actual Dane to live under Sharia law in Denmark?

Sheesh... what a misconception.

P.S.: Remember, ask me if you have questions about anything. Don't follow up with an even stupider post. You can do better than that.

If Denmark was 60% Muslim would your answer be the same?

[Slant]

If Denmark was 60% Muslim would your answer be the same?

If Denmark was 60% Muslim and democratically voted to be like Saudi Arabia, that's how the cookie crumbles. I fail to see what the fuck your point is? Despite coming up with outrageously idiotic "what ifs"?

[Klingers]

You say that but we are opening mosques, some maccas places have removed bacon from the menu, merry christmas is being replaced by happy holidays around Australia and the list goes on, I wish it were like you are saying but its fast becoming the complete opposite.

And I'll be perfectly honest with you: I feel like I'm the tiniest bit racist with what I'm going to say next. Just a bit. I wish I wasn't. But I don't want ethnic groups forming little enclaves to the point where Maccas is taking bacon off the menu or you can't find English signs in a suburb.

One of my main reasons is that studies have found it usually takes 3 generations for a migrant family to become fully "assimilated". Usually grand-kids of Middle-Eastern migrants would identify primarily as Australian. First-generation Australians from certain migrant cultures have a higher likelihood to be torn between their country of birth and their cultural heritage to a point where it can effect self identity, which opens the door more to radicalization. Especially in suburbs where people of a the same cultural backgrounds are concentrated together and surrounded on all sides by "the other". It fosters us-versus-them.

As for mosques, I don't really care that much. It's the same bullshit as churches and synagogues so have at it. Let the people have their imaginary friends as long as they don't hurt anyone. I just want to be able to walk through Lakemba and get a Bacon Double Cheeseburger.

[satimy]

If Denmark was 60% Muslim and democratically voted to be like Saudi Arabia, that's how the cookie crumbles. I fail to see what the fuck your point is? Despite coming up with outrageously idiotic "what ifs"?

So if a native Dane should not want to become Saudi Arabia, what is the appropriate level of immigration from the Middle East that they should aim for?

[Slant]

So if a native Dane should not want to become Saudi Arabia, what is the appropriate level of immigration from the Middle East that they should aim for?

Can you cut the idiot hypotheticals out? What if Americans ruled the world? What if Mohammad had stumbled after taking a dump on the Mountain and broke his neck? I don't know. WHAT IF the moon exploded?

Seriously, how old are you? Currently the Muslim population in Denmark is about 3.7%. Germany has around 5.5% Muslims... To give you an idea, you would have to transplant the ENTIRE emirate of Dubai into Denmark to get anywhere near the 60% mark that you're talking about. That's how incredibly stupid your premise is.

[announced]

Can you cut the idiot hypotheticals out? What if Americans ruled the world? What if Mohammad had stumbled after taking a dump on the Mountain and broke his neck? I don't know. WHAT IF the moon exploded?

Seriously, how old are you? Currently the Muslim population in Denmark is about 3.7%. Germany has around 5.5% Muslims... To give you an idea, you would have to transplant the ENTIRE emirate of Dubai into Denmark to get anywhere near the 60% mark that you're talking about. That's how incredibly stupid your premise is.

the problem is Muslims tend to have at least 8 kids, and their families will have at least 8 kids as well. This may not seem like a problem when there are only 44M of them in Europe but eventually that number will multiply exponentially and you will see a change. The numbers are given from http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...u-might-think/

Right now there isn't much of an issue when they are the minority, but what happens when they become the majority?

[satimy]

Can you cut the idiot hypotheticals out? What if Americans ruled the world? What if Mohammad had stumbled after taking a dump on the Mountain and broke his neck? I don't know. WHAT IF the moon exploded?

Seriously, how old are you? Currently the Muslim population in Denmark is about 3.7%. Germany has around 5.5% Muslims... To give you an idea, you would have to transplant the ENTIRE emirate of Dubai into Denmark to get anywhere near the 60% mark that you're talking about. That's how incredibly stupid your premise is.

So the demographics wont change?