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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    I'm sure the Ukranians agree with you, bloody Russian invasion.
    I'm sure that those who voted demacratically in government n president took issue with US at maidan telling opposition to violently over-throw democracy. You light the fire n blame others when you see flames.




  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Australia suspends air missions over Syria amid US-Russia tensions

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...alition-forces
    Well, no surprises here, entirely as expected.

    Hopefully SAA will be able to use this lull in Coalition flights to gain some territory.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Can't wait for the first F-18 to get shot down.
    Still mad about Kosovo?
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    "This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."

    -- Capt. Copeland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Still mad about Kosovo?
    That filthy "country" should have been levelled to the ground.

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    That filthy "country" should have been levelled to the ground.
    The way they are antagonizing their neighbors to create greater albania it's likely a war could spark any moment n involve half of balkans..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Arthur Dayne View Post
    I'm sure that those who voted demacratically in government n president took issue with US at maidan telling opposition to violently over-throw democracy. You light the fire n blame others when you see flames.



    I see John Mccain shaking hands and 2 Berkut "cops" aiming rifles at a protesters. I guess the US should stage referendums around Syria in rebel held territory, giving the options "1, Become independent 2, become a part of the United states", Russia wouldnt be having any moral highground whatsoever, and the US would gain their own territory in ME, it's a win/win.

    FYI, western dissatisfaction with yanukovich isnt and werent a secret, the EU and the US spoke out against him years before 2014, yet you're surprised they support a Ukranian protest to allign with the West.
    Last edited by Crispin; 2017-06-20 at 12:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Arthur Dayne View Post
    I'm sure that those who voted demacratically in government n president took issue with US at maidan telling opposition to violently over-throw democracy. You light the fire n blame others when you see flames.
    That retard in the 2nd picture is an IS supporter and should be prosecuted for high treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    That retard in the 2nd picture is an IS supporter and should be prosecuted for high treason.
    That's not Michael Flynn. Nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Or Turkey shoots down a Russian jet, the Russian bluffs are real.
    Their fanboys eat it up too. Out of one side of their mouth they decry the west as aggressors and posture as peaceniks, but out of the other side of their mouth they have near orgasms at the thought of Russia attacking a Nato country, the U.S. in particular. The whole lot of them are pathetic hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Well, no surprises here, entirely as expected.

    Hopefully SAA will be able to use this lull in Coalition flights to gain some territory.
    COnsidering the US isnt stopping and the US just shot down another Iranian drone in Syria today, not likely.

  10. #70
    What great time to not have a Commander in Chief.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    America just look so clueless. Nothing they have done in Syria has worked.
    It largely has.

    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    They shot this jet down using a one page law passed a week after 9/11 to fight al-Qaeda. I'm not sure how it justifies attacking the Syrian Government in 2017 thats, in part, fighting al-Qaeda.
    Hey, I want the Congress to pass a AUMF to legalize the Syria war more than anybody. But that being said that's an internal political debate.

    Externally, any country that seeks to dispute our right to act in Syria can challenge US Air power and see how it ends. You can thank Russia for establishing that new-normal in Crimea.


    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    That whole thing they are doing in Tanf is mental, they have created an Alamo, which they now have to defend.
    Bit of an exaggeration.

    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    They mistook Russia/Syria and Iran as paper tigers and will eventually have to get into bed with them as the war draws to a close.
    Russia, Syria and Iran are all paper tigers. And the US is not rushing to bring the war to a close.

    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Whoever is leading the US military in Syria is an idiot.
    Not at all. The US has achieved most of it's objectives. But it must be stated, Syria is the US's hobby. Most of the US military's focus is on Asia-Pacific and Europe, as it should be.

    We talk about stuff in Syria, but the manpower and materiel going to Europe and Asia-Pacific utterly dwarfs it. The US Marine Corps is about to being filling pre-positioned stockpiles in Norway with enough equipment to outfit upwards of 25,000 marines. That's a lot of shipments from North America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerean View Post
    Can't wait to see how stronk Russia follows through with their ultimatum with all nineteen serviceable combat aircraft they have in the country...
    This guy gets it.

    The only real response to Russia's hollow threat is "I'd love to see them trying".

    Russia can't protect anybody. THat's what this is about. Every time the US bombs a base, shoots down an aircraft, it lays bare the fact that Russia's presence is having minimal to no effect on US operations, and the thread of shooting out US aircraft with S-400s isn't exactly stopping the US from doing anything whatsoever. And that's because the US Military is not stupid and they know that Russia and Syria combined has a total of about 200 decent-quality anti-aircraft missiles left in Syria, and if they fired as US Aircraft, it wouldn't be nearly enough to stand up to US SEAD.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    It largely has.
    Just like how losing the georgia vote was a "moral victory".

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Just like how losing the georgia vote was a "moral victory".
    Not sure who has said that. Hasn't been me. I haven't paid attention to one mere house race. Win or lose it would change nothing with regards to getting rid of Trump.

    Focus on it is because some people are rushing to 2018, then 2020 to get rid of Trump electorally and want a sneak preview. I plan for Trump to be brought down by law enforcement.

    Besides as a Republican in the House, she'll almost certainly vote for the bill that will do this:

    https://news.usni.org/2017/06/20/hou...-every-3-years

    CAPITOL HILL – The House Armed Services Committee’s defense bill for 2018 would allow the Navy to buy 15 Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers and 13 Virginia-class attack submarines over the next five years instead of the 10 each the Navy wanted, would urge the Navy to buy aircraft carriers every three years, and would force the destroyer shipbuilders to make quicker progress upgrading to the Flight III ship design that boasts a more impressive radar, HASC aides told reporters today.

    The Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense Authorization Act will be debated in the HASC next week, but the subcommittee-specific sections were released today and explained to reporters by committee staff members.

    This year’s bill would take several steps to pave the way to a larger fleet, staffers explained, to include making it national policy to get to a 355-ship Navy as soon as possible. It would also require the Navy to maintain a 12-aircraft carrier fleet beginning in 2023, when the future John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) is set to deliver, and it would lay the groundwork for the Navy to buy more ships and submarines through its two upcoming multiyear procurement contracts.

    In an effort to increase attack submarine production, ahead of an upcoming dip in the size of the SSN fleet, the bill would have the Navy buy 13 submarines in the next five years – beyond the two a year the Navy wanted to buy, it would add a third submarine in 2020, 2022 and 2023. The first two Columbia-class ballistic-missile submarines (SSBN-826) will be bought in 2021 and 2024, and the HASC aides said the committee believes the industrial base has the capacity to build a third SSN in years the Navy is not procuring a SSBN.
    So more power to her. You think a Democrat would vote for that? Like hell.

  14. #74
    Russia posturing for land. He felt like the US was jumping the gun for land and said this to back them off. We need to work together, after we can bicker about who gets control over what.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    Russia posturing for land. He felt like the US was jumping the gun for land and said this to back them off. We need to work together, after we can bicker about who gets control over what.
    Like hell we need to work together. America's problems with Russia are of vastly greater importance to our and global security than ISIS. Russia must be handcuffed and contained as its decline accelerates so it doesn't hurt other countries, or itself, as it tumbles down Mount Olympus and hits every cliff jutting out along the way. We can't let the rockslide hurt us or our friends.

    There should be no deal making or partnership with Russia on anything. Either they give us everything we want, on any issue, or we find creative and subtle ways to hurt them. That is how relations should be at this point.

    Russia is our enemy. They are not our friends. They will never be our friends and friendship with them is not at all desirable.

    No peace.
    Last edited by Skroe; 2017-06-21 at 09:43 PM.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Russia is our enemy. They are not our friends. They will never be our friends and friendship with them is not at all desirable.
    Sabre rattling and looking for outside the enemy while in terminal decline. The new American motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Sabre rattling and looking for outside the enemy while in terminal decline. The new American motto.
    [projecting intensifies]
    Populists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
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  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    [projecting intensifies]
    I don't need to project anything. The person im replying to has become a neocon caricature. Talking about bread lines, punishing, stealth planes and killing Syrians to hurt Iran.

    American jingoism is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    I don't need to project anything. The person im replying to has become a neocon caricature. Talking about bread lines, punishing, stealth planes and killing Syrians to hurt Iran.

    American jingoism is a joke.
    Oh the neocon shit again, rofl...

    Apparently being an opponent of Russia and wanting my country to retaliate against it makes me a neocon now.

    Build my missile defense site, Bulgarian. My taxpayer dollars are going to a good cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    [projecting intensifies]
    "Terminal decline" is a phrase I use, with respect to Russia. Cybran's being an 8 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Sabre rattling and looking for outside the enemy while in terminal decline. The new American motto.
    If the US is in terminal decline, Russia is dead, buried, and rotting.

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