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    The View from Argus...

    SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE KILJAEDEN FIGHT


    Most people are probably focused on what its like to see Argus hanging in the sky while on Azeroth. But I started thinking about this from the Argus perspective. Right now, you can see Azeroth hanging in the sky from any point on Argus. Some of you may say "So what??" But don't forget, We've NEVER seen the other side of Azeroth. We've only seen one side. What if we go to Argus in 7.3, end the Legion threat in some raid, and while we do this Azeroth slowly turns in the sky. At the end, it rotates around and we see what's on the other side at last....and we see some GIGANTIC old god sucking the life out of Azeroth.
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    If you go to Black Temple and look at the sky from Illidan's platform, you can see Azeroth in the sky. This is probably what the view is from Argus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    If you go to Black Temple and look at the sky from Illidan's platform, you can see Azeroth in the sky. This is probably what the view is from Argus.
    That was in Blizzards younger days.
    Literally makes no sense as to why that's occurring, lol, even more so with Illidari invading a completely different World not even being interested in going to Azeroth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE KILJAEDEN FIGHT


    Most people are probably focused on what its like to see Argus hanging in the sky while on Azeroth. But I started thinking about this from the Argus perspective. Right now, you can see Azeroth hanging in the sky from any point on Argus. Some of you may say "So what??" But don't forget, We've NEVER seen the other side of Azeroth. We've only seen one side. What if we go to Argus in 7.3, end the Legion threat in some raid, and while we do this Azeroth slowly turns in the sky. At the end, it rotates around and we see what's on the other side at last....and we see some GIGANTIC old god sucking the life out of Azeroth.
    ive always assumed the map we see is spread across the globe still?

    anywho, pretty cool

    omg . i just thought. what if we see a flat azeroth? flat earthers will rejoice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE KILJAEDEN FIGHT


    Most people are probably focused on what its like to see Argus hanging in the sky while on Azeroth. But I started thinking about this from the Argus perspective. Right now, you can see Azeroth hanging in the sky from any point on Argus. Some of you may say "So what??" But don't forget, We've NEVER seen the other side of Azeroth. We've only seen one side. What if we go to Argus in 7.3, end the Legion threat in some raid, and while we do this Azeroth slowly turns in the sky. At the end, it rotates around and we see what's on the other side at last....and we see some GIGANTIC old god sucking the life out of Azeroth.
    well the Titan's had made globes in Ulduar and whatnot that showed the planet in it's entirety, but sure it can always be retconned. Turns out all the planet sized Titans that helped shape the entire landscape were actually partially retarded. We got the "d" team sent to azeroth.

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    Those globes could easily be outdated.
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    There is no other side to azeroth, The western continent is the other side of the world from the eastern like Europe/asia is to America. As explained in the lore book Azeroth was a pangea, one land mass, and it split into the many we have today of which the only land mass not accounted for in that map is the one that is under the ocean that the Queen resides in.
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    Actually, there are many conflicting maps and globes across many expansions depicting the backside of Azeroth, or no backside of Azeroth at all.

    There are small, brown globes in older zones that are updated almost every expansion (they even have an updated Northrend and Pandaria on them) and they clearly show an empty backside of Azeroth. Likewise, in the Dragonwrath questline from Cataclysm, there is a globe depicted in a cinematic that shows a similar layout - an ocean between the EK and Kalimdor opposite of the Maelstrom. The same globe was updated and reused for Wrathion's legendary questline in Pandaria, giving a clearer image. Other globes - like the ones in Ulduar - show little-to-no backside of Azeroth.

    However, it would be interesting to have a clearer, more definite, and (most importantly) updated view of Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    There is no other side to azeroth, The western continent is the other side of the world from the eastern like Europe/asia is to America. As explained in the lore book Azeroth was a pangea, one land mass, and it split into the many we have today of which the only land mass not accounted for in that map is the one that is under the ocean that the Queen resides in.
    https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/bZLj9O1z9.png
    Actually, in Chronicle Vol 1 there is one reference that ancient Azeroth had more than one continent on page 29 (Primordial Azeroth - Coming of the Old Gods):

    The n'raqi acted as ruthless taskmasters, employing the aqir as laborers to erect towering citadels and temple cities around their masters' colossal bulks. The greatest of these bastions was built around Y'Shaarj, the most powerful and wicked of the Old Gods. This burgeoning civilization was located near the center of Azeroth's largest continent.
    Mind you, this was before the elementals were enslaved, before the Titans arrived, and before the Troll or Night Elf empires, and well before the Sundering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    There is no other side to azeroth, The western continent is the other side of the world from the eastern like Europe/asia is to America. As explained in the lore book Azeroth was a pangea, one land mass, and it split into the many we have today of which the only land mass not accounted for in that map is the one that is under the ocean that the Queen resides in.
    https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/bZLj9O1z9.png
    Exactly. Thank you. I have no idea where people get this idea that we've only see one sid wolf the planet. That's not how geography works. Almost as if Azeroth has a "flat earth society" equivalent .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero Stormchester View Post
    Exactly. Thank you. I have no idea where people get this idea that we've only see one sid wolf the planet. That's not how geography works. Almost as if Azeroth has a "flat earth society" equivalent .
    Yes, so let's hope the next patch will settle this once and for all. 7.2 (Broken Shore, Tomb of Sargeras) was on the PTR 2 days after Nighthold opened. Let's hope 7.3 (Argus, new raid) will be similarly delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravemind View Post
    Yes, so let's hope the next patch will settle this once and for all. 7.2 (Broken Shore, Tomb of Sargeras) was on the PTR 2 days after Nighthold opened. Let's hope 7.3 (Argus, new raid) will be similarly delivered.
    My guess is with Blizzcon approaching the next expansion will be on argus, Illidan did this with Argus so instead of Azeroth being invaded constantly we would be invading Argus which is where the Eredar (Man'ari) can be killed permanently and without the Man'ari leading the forces of the legion Sargeras is just left with a bunch of unruly demons with no real organization skills. The Man'ari are the head of the dragon, there was a reason Sargeras needed them, they are the key component of the legion. Without them it is basically just Sargeras.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    My guess is with Blizzcon approaching the next expansion will be on argus, Illidan did this with Argus so instead of Azeroth being invaded constantly we would be invading Argus which is where the Eredar (Man'ari) can be killed permanently and without the Man'ari leading the forces of the legion Sargeras is just left with a bunch of unruly demons with no real organization skills. The Man'ari are the head of the dragon, there was a reason Sargeras needed them, they are the key component of the legion. Without them it is basically just Sargeras.

    Doing ANOTHER Legion expansion would be a death sentence because its a boring thematic and because theres no relevant Legion character other than Sargeras left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Doing ANOTHER Legion expansion would be a death sentence because its a boring thematic and because theres no relevant Legion character other than Sargeras left.
    They said the same thing about orcs, we got orcs for 2 expansions. You have 4 months before Blizzcon and this tier just opened up. You are not getting another raid tier in Legion and suddenly there is Argus floating overhead. We are not going to go do something else while an entire army sits on our doorstep.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Doing ANOTHER Legion expansion would be a death sentence because its a boring thematic and because theres no relevant Legion character other than Sargeras left.
    Varimathras,Detheroc, Tichondrius (betting) is left hell they could re use Archimonde if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddon View Post
    That was in Blizzards younger days.
    Literally makes no sense as to why that's occurring, lol, even more so with Illidari invading a completely different World not even being interested in going to Azeroth
    They already said there was no reason for it to be in the skybox, they just said it was something neat to do, and I'm just saying, that's what the view from Argus would probably be like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    Mind you, this was before the elementals were enslaved, before the Titans arrived, and before the Troll or Night Elf empires, and well before the Sundering.
    But didn't it also say in Chronicles that the Titans used Sea Giants to push all the land masses together to create the single super continent of original Kalimdor?
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    Gee when will we ever see the other side of the Earth!

    You act like people from Kalimdor never decided to sail west, or people from EK never decided to sail east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    They said the same thing about orcs, we got orcs for 2 expansions. You have 4 months before Blizzcon and this tier just opened up. You are not getting another raid tier in Legion and suddenly there is Argus floating overhead. We are not going to go do something else while an entire army sits on our doorstep.
    Yes, and we are going there in 7.3. But that's one raid. Because you can't do more. People complained about Orcs a shit ton too and it didnt help Blizzard.
    Also, Blizzard LITERALLY said there would be a raid in 7.3.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    Varimathras,Detheroc, Tichondrius (betting) is left hell they could re use Archimonde if they wanted to.
    Ignoring that Archi is dead, that's 3 characters + Sargeras. He is implying that there would be an entire expansion. Legion doesnt give more than one content patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post


    Gee when will we ever see the other side of the Earth!

    You act like people from Kalimdor never decided to sail west, or people from EK never decided to sail east.

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    Yes, and we are going there in 7.3. But that's one raid. Because you can't do more. People complained about Orcs a shit ton too and it didnt help Blizzard.
    Also, Blizzard LITERALLY said there would be a raid in 7.3.



    Ignoring that Archi is dead, that's 3 characters + Sargeras. He is implying that there would be an entire expansion. Legion doesnt give more than one content patch.
    Jumble a bunch of words and create more bosses you've never heard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGerkin View Post
    Jumble a bunch of words and create more bosses you've never heard of.
    Still, you need SOME big names to carry the raids. Sure, you could have Dreadlords+KJ+Sarg for the end boss of each raid, but I dunno. Not finishing off the Legion in the expansion called Legion would be like leaving Arthas alive in WotLK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    But didn't it also say in Chronicles that the Titans used Sea Giants to push all the land masses together to create the single super continent of original Kalimdor?
    No, not at all. It says:

    To shape the environment, the keepers also conscripted the powerful stone and sea giants. They would roam the breadth of Azeroth, lifting towering mountain ranges and dredging out the fathomless sea.
    The titans (through the keepers) reshaped Azeroth to heal the land and add places like Ulduar and Uldum. Earthen and Mechagnomes also helped with this. Azeroth's overall shape didn't change much - Chronicle's maps show the Black Empire (before the titans) looking like this, while the Kaldorei Empire (after the Ordering) looked like this. There's no difference in the actual shape of the landmass, just political lines (and the Well of Eternity).
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